quite amazing. as a member of the 'raised as' class, seeing history like this is just incredible. really makes a lot of their goofy teachings make more sense
cheerios
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Whose "mouthpiece" was Pastor Russell: Jehovah's or the Adventists??
by Terry ineither charles taze russell obtained his ideas from jehovah or he didn't.. if russell didn't get them from jehovah---from where?.
let's take a survey of the facts about william miller and subsequent adventist teachings.. then, we can ask this question again!.
when william miller (baptist farmer turned theologian) predicted the 2nd coming of christ in 1843/44 a large segment of america's population believed along with him.. miller was invited to preach in church after church.
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The resurrection of Jesus and others in his day.
by jam inmatt.27;51-53. behold, the curtain of the temple was torn in two,.
from top to bottom, and the earth shook, and the rocks were split;.
the tombs also were opened, and many bodies of the saints was.
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cheerios
what about celebrated scholar skills :o
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And The Nations Will Fall (The Slave)
by Este indaniel 2:44.
44 in the time of those kings, the god of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people.
it will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
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cheerios
so mean to mrs jones :(
we love you mrs jones :)
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New Light @ The 2011 District Convention
by dontplaceliterature in" at the bottom of the image on the back of the invitation raises some eyebrows, but last night in the routine district convention article during the service meeting, i caught that one of the paragraphs mentioned that we would be encouraged to keep a copy of the tract in hand for a discussion during sunday's last talk.
my guess is, there is going to be some new revelation about what the "?
" represents, or some other fangled idea.
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cheerios
so what exactly is that question mark pointing at ... bunyuns on the toes?
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A reason christs ransom makes no sense to me
by Aussie Oz indo you remember the old jeff bridges film ''the last starman''?.
basic theme was an extra terestrial energy life transmogrified into a human and impregnated a woman with a seed that would become the savior of humanity.. hollywood is an old hand at using good v evil sort of messages that have ideoligical ties to the bible and the 'need' for mankind to be saved from themselves.. what gets me about this particular film is that the savior to come was there for all humanity.
no conditions were placed on how many from what nations could benefit, nor was salvation only for those who 'believed' or were smart enough to read visions or hidden messages etc.
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cheerios
@ Tec "God did not kill his Son. People killed His Son. God sent his Son for us, to show us the way to Life. He knew what would happen to Christ, "
lol
guns dont kill people, bullets do!
same convoluted reasoning
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What was your "aha" moment....
by botchtowersociety in....that made you decide to leave the botchtower society?
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cheerios
it was a lot of little things that lead up to the big thing for me. mostly elders acting like asshats and jackholes. and then the flipflop on education. sitting there on a sunday morning in the 1990s and hearing the crap in the craptower: we never said you couldnt go to college ... some of you may have interpreted it that way .. you know the line ... well, i was stunned. i had done very well in high school and had lots of opportunities for scholarships .. but the elders said no .. showed me literatrash that specifically spoke against going to college ... never forget one of th ecomments: how much better to use your intellect for the good of gods kingdom (or some rubbish like that). anyways i was infuriated. telling me i got it wrong when i was hounded about it. lol. wasnt too long after that my mental exit began. then a physical exit in 2000.
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A Major Break Through!
by headisspinning ini just wanted to let you all know that i have had a major break through with my mom.. we have hashed everything out and she not only apologized for hurting us, but she also said she understands why we've made the decisions that we've made.. and best of all?
she is going to try to help us both get our kids back.. she had no idea of all the stuff going on with our ex spouses and she's very upset about it.. she said that she accepts where we are at in regard to the religion and although she does hope we might change our minds down the road, she just wants us to be happy.. at this point she still feels she needs to respect the disfellowshipping arrangement and i'm not pressuring her about that.
after all, rome wasn't built in a day and i would say major progress has been made here.. just wanted to let you guys know where things are at right now and a big thank you for all of your support, advice and care through this ordeal..
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cheerios
that is good news! grats!
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POSITIVE POST TIME!! We just want to know 3 things you are FOR.
by Terry inon this topic we don't care what you are against.. let's be positive and tell three things we are for which are meaningful to us.. .
1.music lessons for kids.
learning to read music and play an instrument.. 2.memory training and math strategies in schools.
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cheerios
1. extensive education for all. moar books less bombs ..
2. healthcare
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3. i agree with wontleave .. boobs
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December 15th WT gives example of sister who quit her job so she could go to an convention.
by life is to short ini was beyond mad when i heard this.
it is on page 30 of the wt.. it says "a pioneer named roxana is one who has seen how jehovah provides for his people.
when she asked her employer for permission to take some days off to attend one of our conventions, he angrily retorted that if she went, he would fire her.
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cheerios
complete rubbish.
i suppose they paid her 3000 euros per month lol. on another note, i am sure that apologists will point to these kind of examples to show why you dont need a college education ... the great invisible sky daddy will motivate managers of companies to just sporadically employ you as long as you put GB interests first
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June 15th WT ( again ) WT Society Bashes College & Earning a Living
by flipper insorry for the redundancy of this being the 3rd article out of this magazine i've made a thread on- but i felt it was important to share these quotes from the aricle titled " make your way successful - how ?
" i think you'll see the extreme dissing of higher education here and guilt tactics used to discourage jw members from getting a college education or earning a decent living.. under the subheading " higher education " ?
it states, " a christian has a scriptural obligation to care for his family, and that includes providing for their material needs.
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cheerios
uneducated window washers will believe anything