June 15th WT ( again ) WT Society Bashes College & Earning a Living

by flipper 38 Replies latest jw friends

  • flipper
    flipper

    Sorry for the redundancy of this being the 3rd article out of this magazine I've made a thread on- but I felt it was important to share these quotes from the aricle titled " Make your Way Successful - How ? " I think you'll see the extreme dissing of higher education here and guilt tactics used to discourage JW members from getting a college education or earning a decent living.

    Under the subheading " Higher Education " ? it states, " A Christian has a scriptural obligation to care for his family, and that includes providing for their material needs. Still, does this really require a college or a university degree ? It would be good to consider what effect pursuing a higher education could have on one's relationship with Jehovah. If you have a means of supporting yourself , do you really need to spend time, money, and effort on further education just to realize PERSONAL aspirations or those of your PARENTS or OTHER relatives ? " So notice immediately the WT society is imputing wrong motives or calling people sELFISH or self serving in pursuing a college degree. Ridiculous.

    Notice the guilt used in this example : " Consider Grzegorz , a computer programmer. Persuaded by his colleagues, he took up an intensive course of additional specialized training . Soon he had no time left for spiritual pursuits. He recalls : " I constantly FELT ON EDGE. MY CONSCIENCE TROUBLED ME because I could not reach the spiritual goals I had set for myself. " So the WT society is saying that if you are guilty or troubled it's because you are seeking higher education or wanting to better yourself- not the WT interests.

    Another quote a few paragraphs down, " Becoming absorbed in a secular job can rob a Christian of the energy needed to maintain his own spiritual balance and to assist his family. If a Christian is overly involved in a secular career, he can end up having prolonged, severe stress. Such a person can even become enslaved to a career to the extent of experiencing burnout. More important, would he have enough physical and emotional strength left to carry out his duties in the family and to engage in spiritual activities ? " I don't know about you folks- but what causes ME more stress is not having ENOUGH work in this desperate economy ! I actually like picking up more work as it means my family ( wife & Me) will eat better, pay our bills, and survive another day in this already difficult economy ! The WT society has a lot of nerve putting even MORE stress on JW's living day to day in this recession.

    Bottom line here is the WT society greedily wants ALL of Jehovah's Witnesses time, assets, labor, and interest. Essentially they want slaves to labor for the WT society interests. That's cutting to the chase about as blunt as I can put it. So what better way to guilt JW's into feeling bad about education and their jobs than being dismissive towards their education and employment ?? Just how I see it in this article. I'm interested to see what your takes and comments are on this as well. As always I look forward to your takes and observations. Take care all of you, and have a good evening

  • Retrovirus
    Retrovirus

    A Christian has a scriptural obligation to care for his family, and that includes providing for their material needs. Still, does this really require a college or a university degree

    Really horrible. Effectively saying "you needn't help your children get any reasonable qualifications" Yet I'm sure there's no problem if you support them while they endlessly pioneer?

    Reminds me of my ex-MIL who had often been kept home from school to look after younger siblings - she did her very best to frustrate any career ambitions I had and guilt me if I put the kids into day care. This during the ex's bankruptcies!

    Yet another attempt to tether the next generation. And it won't work.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    A person can in fact become enslaved to a career to the point of burnout. Usually, that brings in decent money. In this environment, it is often a result of the Rothschilds stealing most of the money through devaluing the currency by debt, and taxes.

    A person can also become enslaved to a religion to the point of burnout. Usually, this brings in nothing but more expenses. The religion itself uses the person's time to do work, and does not reimburse the person for that work. The person incurs expenses, usually transportation-related but often donations, without any reimbursement.

    With the career, the person can also develop new products (assuming regulations don't pop up that prohibit anything genuinely useful) that can help people. They can work with things they enjoy. The work itself can be fulfilling--especially in the sciences. (It's when you have to alter the results because the Establishment doesn't want to see the truth that it becomes a burden.) Plus, you get more money--decent paying work brings in more income. Which is going to be ever more important--once hyperinflation hits, you are not going to be able to survive on the same nominal income you got by on 3 years ago.

    By contrast, what value does a religion create? Especially when that religion doesn't even follow its own Bible?

  • scary21
    scary21

    Flipper, there they go again saying in so many words....Don't listen to your parents.. you dont have to fulfill their aspirations for you....just OUR aspirations for you.... well Jehovahs (Same thing) Same articlle also in so many words....Don't listen to your parents if they think your to young to be baptized. WOW both in the same June 15 WT Read between the lines.......and thats what I'm hearing ! People I know that are highly educated work less, have more vacation time, and retire at a early age if they so desire. Who are they kidding!!!! Nobody here lol

  • cheerios
    cheerios

    uneducated window washers will believe anything

  • RADHESYAM
    RADHESYAM

    @Cheerios - OMG LOL that was the number ONE occupation of all the pioneers and aux P's in our congregation: window washers!!!

  • Room 215
    Room 215

    If the lack of a college education limits your employment options, and hence the control of your life choices, it amounts to nothing less than surrendering your personal freedom control to the whims of whomever you work for. Wider options generally grants one more control over one's circumstances and therefore more personal indepedence.

    Granted, for those with highly specialized skills and training in the manual trades in high demand, i.e. electrician, plumbing, etc. deciding against furtherance of one's formal, academic education may well be the right choice. The point is, the decision whether to either accept or decline college says nothing about an individual's personal spirituality; it's spiritually neutral.

  • mindseye
    mindseye

    It's simple: dogmatic religions teach you WHAT to think. A solid college education teaches you HOW to think. This is why they discourage higher education.

    From what I've heard, they mellowed out for a while on this subject. It appears they may be seeing certain patterns, like young ones leaving as soon as they learn how to use their brains. So it's time to demonize higher education once again!

  • nugget
    nugget

    It is a useful tactic. within the organisation they need to ensure that fulfillment and achievement only comes on their terms. Everyone has to be the same and noone can excell in anything non JW related. It encourages mediocrity and policing by members to ensure that everyone reaches the same level of blandness. If you have any abilities these must be quashed and any talants are selfish.

    It ensures that everybody is exhausted and too tired to question authority. It also ensures that when someone is granted the smallest recognition in the congregation such as the privilege of microphones" it takes on a much greater importance. People can be controlled by the mere threat that some privilege will be removed. People become willing slaves sacrificing time effort and energy in mundane tasks because they gain status by how many jobs they do.

    It is madness anywhere else this would be seen as the nonsense it is, if at work I was given the privilege of stacking the dishwasher I would see it as the pointless., thankless task it is. If someone threatened to take away this role I would be delighted not depressed.

  • JustHuman14
    JustHuman14

    WT as usual...Actually my main concern it is how to survive from the my financial Armageddon, caused by the WT. It was due to WT that I left career.(music) became pioneer in order to save the world and my calendar was ending just before 2000. Personally it caused me lot of money being a JW, and now I'm paying the price. While other people in my age they studied, found a good job, and the 80's it was a great time to create your own job or even to find a good job. Most of my friends have good jobs, but we hoped that education, or a good job wasn't necessary, since the end was NEAR. Now in my early 40's (I left WT around 35) I find it hard to get a discent job, and the jobs I can find is low paid.

    WT never changes. It was the same back in the 1880's the 1910's the 1920's, the 1940's, the 70's the 80's. NOTHING CHANGE. The only sad is the human life's that are going to waste for supporting a handful of false prophets.

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