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Letter of Reinstatement
by kayanow in
1. jw
2. experiences
i'm new to this website and i thought i'd create a profile.

i was disfellowshipped in july of 2013 in another city.

i since moved and starting going to meeting about 6 months ago in my new city.
Fernando

Welcome kayanow!

Some here may understand your reasons for wanting or having to go back.

Personally I would discourage you unless you are going back for the sake of family and friends.

Just hang in there, and some good advice could soon come along.

Hopefully you are in the process of getting more informed about TATT, although of course I believe it is much safer to first learn as much as you can about the "unabridged gospel" of grace (starting with the books of Romans and Galatians).

In the mean time are you able to fill us in with more details?

This might help improve the quality of advice.

Some here were elders for several decades, and know the ropes well.

Greetings

Fernando
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Brett King (Jehovah's Witness) Releases Video of why he removed his ill son, Ashya, from a UK hospital
by jwleaks in
1. jw
2. friends
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14etqn9zpwk .

jw leaks.
Fernando

I feel inclined to believe the father and his sincere plea, much as I despise the apostate religious organisation he belongs to.

In the face of conflicting and arrogant medical opinion, threats and coercion, the parents' normal right, to seek out what they believe is the best medical treatment, should be even more paramount.

Again this appears to have nothing to do with the Watchtower's ludicrous, convoluted and ever changing blood doctrine.

Give the family a break, at the very least.

Even better, what about some support?
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New idol replaces golden calf in WT comic book.
by Wasanelder Once in
1. social
2. humour
well, what do you think?.

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Fernando

Interesting that Jesus took issue with those representing themselves as God's VISIBLE organisation and channel (golden calf) on earth even telling them they were from the father the Devil and destined for Gehenna (Matt 23 esp v2 and v15).

He even made short shrift of them when they (hypocritically) wanted to stone a woman caught at adultery (John 8:1-11).
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Why was Gilead originally made into a Bombshelter!!!!
by Witness 007 in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
rutherford's book "enemies" 1937: "will great britain and america become fascist under catholic control?

the scriptures and the facts support that conclusion.

" where do you hide the bethel family from fascist catholics?.
Fernando

Fascinating...

The Golden Calf (JW.org) can run but not hide from its colourful past...
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Please help....in a dilemma..
by crazyhorse in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
please help with this: when i was in college, there was a lot of talk about university and how all who pursue that are wasting their time and all that.

even before going to uni, there was a lot of pressurr on me concerning my decision.

during that time, two elders sat with me for appointment as ms and asked me if i have freedom of speech in the org since i'm going to uni and i said no.
Fernando

Maybe something like: "I'm leaving this matter in Jehovah's hands for now and request you do the same."

And always remember to NEVER touch their IDOLS (GB, Org, FDS, and so on) if you do not want to be "killed" (df'd).
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JW Stained Glass Windows!
by Atlantis in
1. watchtower
2. bible
found this over on one of the jw sites.. .. stained glass.

jehovahs witnesses assembly hall, montreal,.... .. .. petra.
Fernando

Great piece of art.

However it must be tricky to move into a glass house if you've been throwing stones for the last 100 years...
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The Great Crowd Catch 22
by Perry in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
just had a two hour conversation with my father.

he is insistent that he will be able to enter the kingdom of god as a member of the 'great crowd'.

he did agree that only the annointed are declared righteous.
Fernando

Hey Perry, I wonder what your father's thoughts would be on "imputed righteousness", although reading up on this in the Watchtower library introduces one to the convoluted morass of the Watchtower two class system.

*** w74 10/1 p. 599 par. 21 Settling the Issue of Ownership ***
The righteousness that God imputes to one through one’s faith in and acceptance of Christ’s ransom sacrifice is spoken of as a “free gift.” (Rom. 5:15-17; 6:23)
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JW Stained Glass Windows!
by Atlantis in
1. watchtower
2. bible
found this over on one of the jw sites.. .. stained glass.

jehovahs witnesses assembly hall, montreal,.... .. .. petra.
Fernando

Great, or not so great, it seems our minds think alike Listener...
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JW Stained Glass Windows!
by Atlantis in
1. watchtower
2. bible
found this over on one of the jw sites.. .. stained glass.

jehovahs witnesses assembly hall, montreal,.... .. .. petra.
Fernando

*** w69 10/15 p. 632 When You First Go to a Kingdom Hall ***
Thus such religious appendages that are not in accord with Bible truth are not displayed at the Kingdom Hall, thus avoiding that which takes away from the worship “with spirit and truth.”
In this vein, you will also observe that there are no stained-glass windows, as in many churches, to help create a hushed aura of artificial sanctity.
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Jesus is the Problem-"Christian Parents (not JWs) kick their son out for being Gay
by fulltimestudent in
1. jw
2. friends
jesus had nothing to say - for or against, homosexuality.

yet in his name, ignorant 'christian' parents will shun their children.

and jesus does not interfere.
Fernando
Very interesting observations matt2414.

The Watchtower is not the sole purveyor of so-called "Christian" - but actually apostate - legalism and moralism, which foments ignorance, hypocrisy, bigotry and supremacist self-righteousness.

Search wt lib:
- "experiment that failed"
- legalism
An alternative perspective: http://biblehouseofgrace.com/same%20sex%20relationships.html