i have an unspoken rule that if someone ever invites me to a church - that i haven't been to before - i will go.
even though i'm an atheist i'm still interested in the experiance.
just like i'm not into basketball but i would like to go to a game sometime to feel the energy of the crowd.. growing up as a jw i've never set foot in another church.
As a believer in Jesus, and in the liberating gospel message about him, I do not believe in religion, but would like to take a tour of different manmade "Churches".
However I find clericalism offensive, and am still trying to figure out how to respond to the usual ignorant questions, and the obsessive possessive aggressive judgmental recruitment mentality:
"Where do you go to Church"?
i'm new to this website and i thought i'd create a profile.
i was disfellowshipped in july of 2013 in another city.
i since moved and starting going to meeting about 6 months ago in my new city.
Welcome kayanow!
Some here may understand your reasons for wanting or having to go back.
Personally I would discourage you unless you are going back for the sake of family and friends.
Just hang in there, and some good advice could soon come along.
Hopefully you are in the process of getting more informed about TATT, although of course I believe it is much safer to first learn as much as you can about the "unabridged gospel" of grace (starting with the books of Romans and Galatians).
In the mean time are you able to fill us in with more details?
This might help improve the quality of advice.
Some here were elders for several decades, and know the ropes well.
Greetings
Fernando
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14etqn9zpwk .
jw leaks.
I feel inclined to believe the father and his sincere plea, much as I despise the apostate religious organisation he belongs to.
In the face of conflicting and arrogant medical opinion, threats and coercion, the parents' normal right, to seek out what they believe is the best medical treatment, should be even more paramount.
Again this appears to have nothing to do with the Watchtower's ludicrous, convoluted and ever changing blood doctrine.
Give the family a break, at the very least.
Even better, what about some support?
well, what do you think?.
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Interesting that Jesus took issue with those representing themselves as God's VISIBLE organisation and channel (golden calf) on earth even telling them they were from the father the Devil and destined for Gehenna (Matt 23 esp v2 and v15).
He even made short shrift of them when they (hypocritically) wanted to stone a woman caught at adultery (John 8:1-11).
rutherford's book "enemies" 1937: "will great britain and america become fascist under catholic control?
the scriptures and the facts support that conclusion.
" where do you hide the bethel family from fascist catholics?.
please help with this: when i was in college, there was a lot of talk about university and how all who pursue that are wasting their time and all that.
even before going to uni, there was a lot of pressurr on me concerning my decision.
during that time, two elders sat with me for appointment as ms and asked me if i have freedom of speech in the org since i'm going to uni and i said no.
Maybe something like: "I'm leaving this matter in Jehovah's hands for now and request you do the same."
And always remember to NEVER touch their IDOLS (GB, Org, FDS, and so on) if you do not want to be "killed" (df'd).
found this over on one of the jw sites.. .. stained glass.
jehovahs witnesses assembly hall, montreal,.... .. .. petra.
Great piece of art.
However it must be tricky to move into a glass house if you've been throwing stones for the last 100 years...
just had a two hour conversation with my father.
he is insistent that he will be able to enter the kingdom of god as a member of the 'great crowd'.
he did agree that only the annointed are declared righteous.
Hey Perry, I wonder what your father's thoughts would be on "imputed righteousness", although reading up on this in the Watchtower library introduces one to the convoluted morass of the Watchtower two class system.
*** w74 10/1 p. 599 par. 21 Settling the Issue of Ownership ***
The righteousness that God imputes to one through one’s faith in and acceptance of Christ’s ransom sacrifice is spoken of as a “free gift.” (Rom. 5:15-17; 6:23)
found this over on one of the jw sites.. .. stained glass.
jehovahs witnesses assembly hall, montreal,.... .. .. petra.
Great, or not so great, it seems our minds think alike Listener...
found this over on one of the jw sites.. .. stained glass.
jehovahs witnesses assembly hall, montreal,.... .. .. petra.
*** w69 10/15 p. 632 When You First Go to a Kingdom Hall ***
Thus such religious appendages that are not in accord with Bible truth are not displayed at the Kingdom Hall, thus avoiding that which takes away from the worship “with spirit and truth.”
In this vein, you will also observe that there are no stained-glass windows, as in many churches, to help create a hushed aura of artificial sanctity.
