Posts by Fernando

They wouldn't dare - terrified of hearing us talk about the liberating gospel of grace which they carefully hide from their followers and worshippers.

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What's the difference between exJWs who FLOURISH and those that don't?

by Fernando in

jw
friends

quite a few here on jwn seem to have grown and developed in leaps and bounds, sometimes beyond their wildest dreams.. others seem to still be struggling.. what do you think makes it possible to flourish?.

the degree to which our mind has been liberated from watchtower thinking?.

if so, this seems to happen in many different ways, so what is the secret?.

Fernando

Quite a few here on JWN seem to have grown and developed in leaps and bounds, sometimes beyond their wildest dreams.

Others seem to still be struggling.

What do you think makes it possible to flourish?

The degree to which our mind has been liberated from Watchtower thinking?

If so, this seems to happen in many different ways, so what is the secret?

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Scriptural Basis for Obedience to GB?

by mrhhome in

jw
friends

i have a genuine question for the jw apologist.

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what is your scriptural justification for your unquestioning obedience to the governing body and your unwillingness to question their intepretation of scripture?.

Fernando

I suspect JWN has a rather high conversion rate from JW apologist to lover of TTATT...

How about:

(Jeremiah 17:5) . . .“Cursed is the able-bodied man who puts his trust in earthling man..."

(Psalm 146:3) . . .Do not put YOUR trust in nobles, Nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs.

Are the GB "earthling man"?

Of course not.

They are demigods ("mortals raised to divine rank").

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What happened in Christianity ? O.T prophets were male & female ,God was not gender specific,

by smiddy in

jw
friends

according to scripture they could.

sure in jw land anybody could partake of the emblems and wine , male and female denoting they could be rulers with christ in his heavenly kingdom , however did many of these partakers actually have any say with the governing body ?

in fact did any of them have any say in their own kingdom halls ?

Fernando

I liked your point about the curse of inequality having (legally) been brought to an end by Jesus, villagegirl.

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My friends have made a stand on shunning.

by quellycatface in

Fernando

"You basically leave your religion at the front door and when you are in work uniform."

Now if only you could shun some of your custom making its way into their pay checks...

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Could you get disfellowshipped for simply asking questions?

by LogCon in

if so, what would be some examples?.

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only questions that show a higher degree of thought and intelligence please..

Fernando

And what yadda yadda 2 said.

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What happened in Christianity ? O.T prophets were male & female ,God was not gender specific,

by smiddy in

jw
friends

according to scripture they could.

sure in jw land anybody could partake of the emblems and wine , male and female denoting they could be rulers with christ in his heavenly kingdom , however did many of these partakers actually have any say with the governing body ?

in fact did any of them have any say in their own kingdom halls ?

Fernando

Heaven forbid that women defile themselves with religion as part of the apostate ruling religious clergy class and hierarchy.

We men should hang our heads in shame for our divisive legacy of war, religion and politics.

Women's compassionate and community oriented proclivities make them much better promoters of liberating and unifying faith, spirituality, the gospel, peace, and genuine prophesy instead.

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Could you get disfellowshipped for simply asking questions?

by LogCon in

if so, what would be some examples?.

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only questions that show a higher degree of thought and intelligence please..

Fernando

Yes. Definitely.

The entire body of elders in my last congregation had their finger on the trigger to d/f me for (on a single occasion) asking the question: "what is the gospel in one word?"

I was threatened privately and publically (in a local needs talk).

They did not want the R&F to discover that the gospel (especially according to Paul) was being carefully hidden from them.