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  Are gays really condemned in the Bible?

  by jws in

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  so i was having this argument with a friend about the westboro baptist idiots.

  my point is that while they are horrible people, they are pretty much right in that the bible is against gays because it has verses in both the old and the new testament.

  which is one of many reasons to reject the bible as merely man-made rules from ancient middle-easterners.. and she argued that there are problems in translation, etc.

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  Fernando

  And then there is the choice:

  being led by the letter or the spirit...

  "for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life" (2 Cor 3:6, NIV)

  And for an alternative perspective:

  http://biblehouseofgrace.com/same%20sex%20relationships.html
  
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  Beard's Coming to the Borg!

  by DwainBowman in

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  wt sept study edition, page 17, paragraph 17!

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  Fernando

  LOL EoM.
  
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  Open discussion on "Spiritual Intelligence"

  by Fernando in

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  it was a surprise to learn that there are quite a number of si books, and si tests, out there.. what are your thoughts on si?.

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  Are there any other resources or persons that stand out for you?
  
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  Open discussion on "Spiritual Intelligence"

  by Fernando in

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  it was a surprise to learn that there are quite a number of si books, and si tests, out there.. what are your thoughts on si?.

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  Fernando

  Her video (13 minutes):

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KicaWSXH2II
  
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  Open discussion on "Spiritual Intelligence"

  by Fernando in

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  it was a surprise to learn that there are quite a number of si books, and si tests, out there.. what are your thoughts on si?.

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  Fernando

  Her book: "Sq21 : The Twenty-One Skills of Spiritual Intelligence"

  
  
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  Open discussion on "Spiritual Intelligence"

  by Fernando in

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  it was a surprise to learn that there are quite a number of si books, and si tests, out there.. what are your thoughts on si?.

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  Fernando

  Each of the 21 skills are assessed at 5 different levels.

  For example:

  
  
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  Open discussion on "Spiritual Intelligence"

  by Fernando in

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  it was a surprise to learn that there are quite a number of si books, and si tests, out there.. what are your thoughts on si?.

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  Cindy Wigglesworth has compiled the "CPI Model of 21 Spiritual Intelligence (SQ) Skills"
  
  
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  Open discussion on "Spiritual Intelligence"

  by Fernando in

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  it was a surprise to learn that there are quite a number of si books, and si tests, out there.. what are your thoughts on si?.

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  For a while I have personally begun to see spiritual principles as universal.

  And that there are a number of approaches that yield these principles.

  In my experience religion (of all stripes) is hostile to authentic human spirituality since it cannot be patented, sold, bought or controlled (by the ruling religious clergy class). Religiosity is substituted in its place, with the clergy then conflating religiosity with spirituality (we haven't stolen your spirituality...).
  

  Buddhism for example it seems is generally not regarded or conducted as a religion, and is relatively open and inclusive.
  

  Much like so called "Christianity" was supposed to have been, save for the relentless efforts of the clergy.

  I have heard horror stories emanating from some extreme "Buddhist" groups though. A friend was regarded and treated as having joined Satan after leaving a particularly controlling "Buddhist" group.
  
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  Open discussion on "Spiritual Intelligence"

  by Fernando in

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  it was a surprise to learn that there are quite a number of si books, and si tests, out there.. what are your thoughts on si?.

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  Fernando

  Thank you all folks for contributing to the conversation.

  @Xanthippe. Thank you. I wanted to leave plenty of room for all flavours of the rainbow...
  
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  Introduction - Any Believers?

  by Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

  i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

  i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

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  Fernando

  Hello Believer and welcome from a fellow believer and member of the "nones".

  I was introduced to the liberating gospel message (or word) whilst still in the Watchtower as a 3rd generation born-in.

  I was deeply moved and knew immediately that I had to pursue this message which had clearly been hidden from us by religion.

  I received the free gift of faith (intuition) exactly as in Rom 10:16,17.

  I do believe religion by design steals our faith and salvation.

  The Watchtower is only a gross caricature of this phenomenon which may be rather more muted and less obvious in more moderate groups that focus somewhat more on the gospel (although still countermanding it by mixing in religious elements such as legalism, moralism, ethnocentrism, gnosticism, clericalism, magisterium, liturgy and the like).

  Blessings

  Fernando