Posts by JAVA

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'Deaden your body members'

by Maxee in

i recently read a post on the net regarding how often men think about sex.

i started to think about how often i did.

i followed this up with a survey on antoher site and found i ranked low and they told me i had sexual problems.

JAVA

larc:

Waiting, we do have a motto, and JAVA can attest to this:
It's great in Dayton

Yep, that's the logo. The guy who came up with this logo worked for an insurance company located off I-75 just south of Dayton. They made a large banner with the logo outside their building. All could see it while traveling south into Dayton. About a year or so afterwards the company moved out of the area! (True story.)

However, the motto is still good because Brother larc and I are here helping our brothers and sisters in need.

Edited by - JAVA on 22 December 2000 9:31:44

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'Deaden your body members'

by Maxee in

i recently read a post on the net regarding how often men think about sex.

i started to think about how often i did.

i followed this up with a survey on antoher site and found i ranked low and they told me i had sexual problems.

JAVA

larc:

At my age, I'm trying to keep my body members alive. If they die, I might go to a faith healer.

Brother larc, I've known you for several years, but you have gone too far this time. I've heard that miracles can raise the dead, but your suggestion goes beyond anything ever recorded!

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Serious Question

by Prisca in

as we all know the society has very strict guidelines regarding conduct between the sexes.

in the cong i grew up in, it was so small-minded that if you were single, and seen talking to a member of the opposite sex, you were presumed to be in some sort of relationship with him/her.. sex before marriage is out of the question, with heavy petting also looked down upon.

dating is a serious affair, with all onlookers expecting engagement/marriage to be the outcome.

JAVA

Interesting questions, Prisca. I dated while in school, and really enjoyed it. My parents studied off and on with the JWs until I was out of high school. As a result, I dated both Witnesses and non-Witnesses. After getting out of high school, I became a JW, and only dated a few Witness females. As we know, the Witnesses view dating as a means to marriage, thus the fun of dating and getting to know others was reduced for me because of the Tower's expectation.

I married a Witness when I turned 22. We dated for about 6 months, and did some heavy petting before the marriage, but we didn't actually have sex. During the 21 year marriage, I don't believe my partner ever had an orgasm. NO KIDDING! I tried everything I could think of, read the books, you name it. During the entire marriage we never had fun with sex--she just didn't like it. Who knows if the Tower's view had anything to do with it or not?

I was an elder when the Tower's bedroom inquisition hit the fan. I still remember giving talks during the Service Meetings about the proper type of sex between married couples. All of this from a elder who never really got it on with his spouse! Oh yes, it keeps getting better when I was on a committee.

One of the sisters reported she had a problem--she enjoyed oral sex with her non-Witness spouse. Would you believe the other elders on the committee wanted to disfellowship her. I talked them into private reproof (arguing it was her husbands fault). I spoke with her after the meeting saying I didn't think she needed to report any more bedroom activity to the committee. I said something about this being new light, and we were still trying to sort things out.

So there I was hearing a sister telling about the fun and joy she was having with her spouse, and we were putting her on private reproof. At the time I was also thinking how wonderful it would be to have sex with a partner who enjoyed it. There we were reproving her because of the Tower's craziness, and I'm wishing I had her so-called problem.

My wife and I divorced after 21 years. I was no longer a Witness at this time, and shortly thereafter dated again. It was great knowing females enjoyed sex, too. I re-married, and it's wonderful having a healthy sex life.

Does the Tower's view of dating and sex influence the happiness and mental health of Witnesses? I vote YES. I don't live in Florida, so my vote should count.

Edited by - JAVA on 20 December 2000 16:28:27

54

You might be a JW if...

by Seven in

* http://www.serve.com/larryi/mightbe.html

JAVA

You might be a JW if you work at assemblies in order to avoid the boring programs. I did this at most assemblies until I realized I didn't have to go in the first place.

You might be a JW if it's a sin to vote for school levies while complaining about poor conditions in the class rooms. Many school buildings in our area needed repairs when my daughter started school. For example, teachers routinely cleaned plaster from classroom desks before the students arrived. Several school levies failed by a few hundred votes, so I voted when the levy came up again. My spouse found out I voted when candidate information was sent to our home with my name on it, and reported this to the elders. I had not attended meetings for a few years, and never received a "shepherding call." However, the elders were concerned about "keeping the congregation clean," and were at my door within hours after the tip. One elder said, "Some in the congregation still speak well of you, and we don't want them to be misled."

I sit back today and wonder, was I really part of that crazy group?

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JW in the News

by JAVA in

just found this info tonight.

in part it reads:.

"judge kram rejected metcalf's request for a reduced sentence based on his claims that the counterfeiting operation was "aberrant behavior" because he was a jehovah's witness who was active in charitable causes.".

JAVA

Angharad: Thanks for the tip; I wondered why the URL didn't show up as a link. Thanks for the "welcome," too!

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You might be a JW if...

by Seven in

* http://www.serve.com/larryi/mightbe.html

JAVA

waiting: Thanks for the link to "Hello? Hello? Hello?" I just posted my bio there. Yes, larc and I live in the same area of Ohio. He was a great help to me when I first came out, and still married to the Witness who reported me to the elders for voting for a local school levy. [>:(]

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JW in the News

by JAVA in

just found this info tonight.

in part it reads:.

"judge kram rejected metcalf's request for a reduced sentence based on his claims that the counterfeiting operation was "aberrant behavior" because he was a jehovah's witness who was active in charitable causes.".

JAVA

Just found this info tonight. In part it reads:

"Judge Kram rejected Metcalf's request for a reduced sentence based on his claims that the counterfeiting operation was "aberrant behavior" because he was a Jehovah's Witness who was active in charitable causes."

The URL is: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/cac/pr/026.htm

Edited by - JAVA on 16 December 2000 21:30:44

12

New Truths

by larc in

jw
friends

i am a newcomer and have thoroughly enjoyed the last couple weeks communicating with all of you.. i have generally kept abreast of the new truths, but am not clear on some details.

for example, as of about 1986, college is now ok, but i think it is supposed to be limited to degrees and subjects that are directly job related.

what are the written and unwritten rules on this subject?.

JAVA

RedhorseWoman: I've been out of the Tower's loop for awhile, but your post about Pokemon and Harry Potter books being the "childhood demon bastion for the new century" brought to mind something that happened in our family.

I was on a business trip and bought a Papa Smurf doll for my young daughter. She loved it. While away on another trip my JW spouse heard noises in the house one evening. (We had a old home, and it wasn't that uncommon to hear the creaks and groans old homes make in the winter.) My spouse was convinced the noises were coming from Papa Smurf and the so-called demon he brought with him. She burned the doll, and stayed up half the night praying with my daughter.

Is it any wonder many JW kids go through life with some unreasonable fears they struggle with for years?

Edited by - JAVA on 15 December 2000 12:4:3

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You might be a JW if...

by Seven in

* http://www.serve.com/larryi/mightbe.html

JAVA

larc: I guess you're right, like minds travel in the same gutter. I wonder if that's how we formed car groups on Saturday mornings? I always liked working rural territory because you could count a lot of time while taking a country drive.

You know you're a JW if you drove around looking a Christmas lights while condemning the folks who put them up.

You know you're a JW if you give gifts to the kids a few days before or after Christmas, and call it "Present Day." We had a number of folks in our congregation who did that.

JAVA at the Coffee Shop

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You might be a JW if...

by Seven in

* http://www.serve.com/larryi/mightbe.html

JAVA

Don't let larc fool anyone on this list. He doesn't need trigger words like "org" to give him "impure thought;" he has those thoughts all the time!

You know you're a JW when you report 10 hours by borrowing time from the next Field Service Report.

I'm new to the list, so I hope this works.

JAVA at the Coffee Shop