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Just getting Started..

by Casper in

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hi everyone........i love this site...!!!.

i just recently found it...and it feels so good to hear.

people talk about things that have been buzzing around in.

JAVA

Casper (I like your name, but it's a long story...),

Welcome to the fun house!

Why did that post go in twice...am I doing something wrong..???

No, you didn't do anything wrong, it only happens when you send a good post! It's never happened to me...I wonder why?

We had a couple of COs who beat the crap out of the congregation during visits, with egos larger then a camel's bladder. The jerk telling you how not to pray really did you a favor because it caused the Tower's house of cards to crumble. I'm convinced some JWs help more believers leave the Tower than any ex-JW could ever hope to do. Glad you found this site--hope you enjoy it.

--JAVA

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The 'beasts'

by kes152 in

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Aaron,

Peace to you all,
Aaron

God, reading material like this reminds me of the crazy stuff Fred Franz would drone on for hours about and no one had a clue what he was saying. Aaron, about the only thing that made sense to me was "Peace to you all." Have you been hanging around the Writing Department at the Tower?

--JAVA

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Jehovah is Cool!!!

by Kent in

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jehovah is a cool guy, helping jws to get stinking rich.. "i would like to thank my god, jehovah, for giving me the strength to compete today since you guys were a little tough on me today," said williams, who picks up a check of $330,0000.

the story can be found here:.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/hi/english/tennis/newsid_1227000/1227575.stm

JAVA

Kent,

The URL listed doesn't seem to work. While on this topic, I think good dark beer is Cool!!!

--JAVA

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The Bible: same now as then?

by agent2863 in

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a few reasons we can know that we have the same bible that was used by early christians are as follows: in 1611 king james ordered that the bible be put into the language of the people.

the earliest manuscripts they had at the time were, for the old testament about 8th century ad, and for the new testament, about 11th century ad.

in 1947 in the caves in qumran above the dead sea, there were discovered over 200 clay jars in over 200 caves, scrolls, which made up the entire old testament.

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battman & agent,

Glad you took the Java thing in the spirit of fun, which is how I hoped it would be taken. I also wanted to illustrate the "so what" factor.

Lets say the Bible or any religious holy book is 75, 85, or 99.99999% accurate from the original. Even if that was true...so what? It doesn't prove God inspired, wrote or influenced the writings just because the writer(s) said it. As seen in my little Java post, I introduced a goddest, pointed out Her assets, and why She should be worshipped. When it's all is said and done the "so what" factor must enter into the reasoning. If that doesn't happen, we are setting ourselves up for any con (even well intentioned cons) that comes along.

I better get back to my Goddness; She gets a little cold if I leave Her alone.

--JAVA

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The Bible: same now as then?

by agent2863 in

jw
friends

a few reasons we can know that we have the same bible that was used by early christians are as follows: in 1611 king james ordered that the bible be put into the language of the people.

the earliest manuscripts they had at the time were, for the old testament about 8th century ad, and for the new testament, about 11th century ad.

in 1947 in the caves in qumran above the dead sea, there were discovered over 200 clay jars in over 200 caves, scrolls, which made up the entire old testament.

JAVA

agent,

I believe in the holy writings of Java. I just finished writing it today after coming down from Mount Coffee. As a result, I'm certain the accuracy rate is 100%! Spell-check found no errors. I drink from the cup of Java, and it stimulates me. I hold the cup of Java, and it warms me. Java's aroma fills me with wonder and expectation.

Java is not a jealous God, and doesn't mind hearing worshipers calling Her by many names. Java does not require human sacrifice, and will not murder the first-born of an entire nation to show Her power. She keeps me alert in dangerous traffic, and Awake! when attending boring conferences. I get excited grinding Java's beans; She is the Berry of Life! -- amen

--JAVA

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Book success: "Wolves Among Sheep"

by ros in

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its a pleasure to report on the success of the book, "wolves among sheep" by former jw james kostelniuk.. for those who have not seen a review of the book, the true account of the cold-blooded murder of kostelniuk's exwife and his two beautiful children, by her second husband, a jw, see beacon website:.

http://www.xjw.com.

the story, with editorial contribution by jim penton, was finally published by harper-collins in canada this past year and it is now nominated for two literary awards: the eileen mctavish first book award and the mcnally robinson best book of the year award.

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Ros,

Will any of the x-jw sites (like yours) offer this book?

--JAVA

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How much longer will the organization last????

by d0rkyd00d in

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this question came to me while i was answering "nature's call".

too much info?

but this is when my best thinking is done.

JAVA

"The Time of the End" theme park of the Tower will run out when the "There's a sucker born every second" phenomena stops. The Internet has negative effects on the Tower's hold, but if you want to believe the world is flat, the Watchtower has a religion for you.

--JAVA

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Book success: "Wolves Among Sheep"

by ros in

jw
friends

its a pleasure to report on the success of the book, "wolves among sheep" by former jw james kostelniuk.. for those who have not seen a review of the book, the true account of the cold-blooded murder of kostelniuk's exwife and his two beautiful children, by her second husband, a jw, see beacon website:.

http://www.xjw.com.

the story, with editorial contribution by jim penton, was finally published by harper-collins in canada this past year and it is now nominated for two literary awards: the eileen mctavish first book award and the mcnally robinson best book of the year award.

JAVA

Ros,

Thanks for the information. It's written up at http://www.harpercanada.com/

Wolves Among Sheep
The True Story of Murder in a Jehovah's Witness Community
James Kostelniuk

The crime was horrific: Juri Kostelniuk, aged 11 and Lindsay Kostelniuk, aged 8, along with their mother Kim, were murdered in 1985 in their Burnaby, B.C., apartment by Jeff Anderson, Kim’s estranged second husband.

The story behind the crime is even more disturbing: this is an account of lives gripped by the unbending laws of Jehovah’s Witness, a religious organization that expels and then shuns those who do not comply with its rules.

The identity of the chronicler is perhaps the most surprising: James Kostelniuk, Juri and Lindsay’s father and Kim’s ex-husband, tells his story as an expression of sorrow and love, and as a search for truth and understanding. Wolves Among Sheep is unlike any true crime account ever written. It is an uncompromisingly honest and compassionate story of a family tragedy; an insider’s look into a group few know a lot about; a riveting exploration of the mind of a killer; and above all, a portrait of steadfast faith and courage.

“A compelling and heartbreaking read, the book makes complex connections between the author’s life, the murderer’s life, the lives of the victims, and the religion they all once shared.” —Quill & Quire

“…a remarkable, gripping and deeply spiritual book.” —The Globe and Mail

“…a meditation on faith and forgiveness—and on the limits of both.” —The Vancouver Sun

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--JAVA

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Local authors nominated for writing awards

by Kent in

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local authors nominated for writing awards .

the nominees are in for brave new words 2001: the manitoba writing and publishing awards.

the april 28 gala at canwest global performing arts centre is open to the public and admission is free.

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Kent,

Have you read, Wolves Among Sheep: The True Story of Murder in a Jehovah's Witness Community, by James Kostelniuk?

--JAVA

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Will you attend?

by Esmeralda in

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friends

yesterday afternoon the phone rang, and the voice of my 81 year old grandmother met my husband's.

ear.

if i could just drop off an invitation to the memorial for you and justin, it's next week you know...".

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Es,

Really enjoyed reading your post because it demonstrates the catch 22 we face with loved ones in the Tower. As others already said, you handled the situation well. I can't think of a better way of showing your grandmother love, but not allowing the Tower to control you. Who knows, your unconditional love might cause your grandmother to rethink a few things--we never know, do we?

Joel, telling your parents you would think about it gives them the hope you'll return. I'm sure you already know that. It's not a comfortable spot when you care about their feelings, while being true to yourself. Easy answers seldom work for difficult situations, and families ALWAYS make situations difficult! Add the Watchtower to the mix, and things go from difficult to crazy. Whatever you do, you'll still be Joel the next day--that's not a bad thing.

--JAVA

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