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  THIS IS IT -- JWs are a Legal Concept

  by JAVA in

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  there is a legal concept called, "femme couverte," which means upon marriage, a woman is absorbed into the person of her husband.

  the 18-century british scholar sir william blackstone said, "the very being of legal existence of the woman is suspended during the marriage, or at least is incorporated and consolidated into that of the husband, under whose wing, protection, and cover she performs everything.

  when i read this i thought, that's what happens to a jw when they get baptized.

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  There is a legal concept called, "femme couverte," which means upon marriage, a woman is absorbed into the person of her husband. the 18-century British scholar Sir William Blackstone said, "The very being of legal existence of the woman is suspended during the marriage, or at least is incorporated and consolidated into that of the husband, under whose wing, protection, and cover she performs everything."
  
  When I read this I thought, that's what happens to a JW when they get baptized. The person who they really are becomes "suspended" and they are "incorporated and consolidated into that of the" Watchtower Society. The baptized person is no longer John or Jane Doe, but they become one of the Watchtower's Jehovah's Witnesses--they are femme couverte. . . . and I've been calling them Dubs. :)
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  Is age an excuse to hold back?

  by stopthepain in

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  a few times me and my family have had it out about the cult,and my parents{especially my mom}who are now 50,get all craxzy sometimes.she almost acts like she's physically sick,or haveing a heart attack or something when things get heated.now i understand sheis emotional to begin with,thats what got her into this crap .but is all these factors a reason to hold back feelings?i often find myself tip-toeing around how i talk to her.i feel the fanatic state they kept thier kids(especially us o0lder 3 of 5}really had detrimental effects on us.it's not so much of what they believed,but how they held us kids back from normal growth.i don't want to make her feel terrible,but sometimes it's hard not to say things.she still clings to her meeting on sunday,and basic principlkes of the bible,but i at times feel betrayed because of her cntinuing to support that reloigion.i guess you just have to take it as comes.has this happened to anyone else?sometimes i care,sometimes i don't.i want my parents to know exactly how wrong the way they raised me was.i guess it was worse because i was so trusting.at a few times in my life,i actually beli9eved.when the rug got pulled out for me,i was left emotionally scarred.it is very difficult for me to forgive and forget.it's just the more you think about how ridicoulous there way of raising children was,the more angry i get.. its my little brothers 21 birthday tonight,and we are all going out to eat and have a few drinks{but it's not a birthday party}.i couldn't do crap in all my childhood.they taught me to hate.they used warped scare tactics on young children.they held me back socially in everyway.they caused,thru that cult,soooooo much pain,that still lingers today.will i ever truly forgive and forget,i dont think so,but thier age may spare them my full disdain.its a fine line i tread with my parents,one between love and hate.. should age matter when it comes to confronting people on this subject,one that runs deep for many of us children of the watchtowers 1980's /early 90's pinnacle of fanatisism?stp

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  Arguing religion is about as useful as spitting in the wind. On the other hand, if someone brings the topic up to me I don't back away from the subject. Nor do I use my age as a way of crippling others if they're getting the upper hand. That's another way to trying to control someone. However, until a JW is looking beyond the Tower for answers, they'll blindly follow the Watchtower's bouncing ball all the way to the grave.
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  Judge bans parents from teaching children religion.

  by avishai in

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  In the past 4-plus years, our country has backpealed on several human rights issues thanks to the current leadership. I'm not surprised non-christian religions are in the line of fire, too. My hat goes off to the Indiana Family Research Council for their stand, but I'll bet many conservatives are not on the same page.
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  The Big "A" is 5 Weeks Away

  by LouBelle in

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  so we have about 5 weeks left.

  ja i couldn't believe it.

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  Delilah -- HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!! You've only have 5 weeks before the big A, so eat lots of cake now. :))
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  The Big "A" is 5 Weeks Away

  by LouBelle in

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  so we have about 5 weeks left.

  ja i couldn't believe it.

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  The pre-1975 JWs had the same mind-set about the big A, except it went on for 9 years, from 1966 to 1975. The Tower set up the 6-month Bible study program using the "Truth Book" because the time was short, and we couldn't waste time on folks not getting dunked as a card-carrying JW.
  
  It's nice knowing the span of time before the big A is only 5 weeks, instead of 9 years! :)
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  Our invitation to our JC came today!!

  by TooOpinionated in

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  we've been expecting it since the memorial, and i was hoping it would come by registered mail so .

  i could refuse it, but noooooo, it comes in a normal first class envelope.

  actually, i thought it .

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  Too -- I only wish I could see the look on their faces when the elders get the letter. Please keep us informed if you receive any feedback from the local jokals. I'm sure they'll stop by for a little birthday cake and ice cream after their big meeting. You should have offer them some booze instead of cake and ice cream; that might have been more than most elders could refuse! :)
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  Our invitation to our JC came today!!

  by TooOpinionated in

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  we've been expecting it since the memorial, and i was hoping it would come by registered mail so .

  i could refuse it, but noooooo, it comes in a normal first class envelope.

  actually, i thought it .

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  As already suggested, let them know that date doesn't work for you because of other important arrangements--than add this:
  
  I'm sending your letter to our lawyer for legal counsel. We will need to arrange a meeting time with you so our lawyer can also attend. Please know that we will not allow our names to be slandered in any way that causes others to treat us differently, and will take legal action if that happens. (or something like that)
  
  Why not give the jerks something to think about, and see how eager they want to meet with you again?
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  Friends i have one question to ask all you about the watchtower

  by JohnHag in

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  friends i am just trying to ask one question and get a simple answer---what in this whole world has the watchtower and its 6 million of followers ever done for this world?

  what have they ever done?

  thats all i want to know--thanks the hag

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  They don't drain the blood banks, at least when the elders are watching.
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  Im in Dayton

  by Junction-Guy in

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  well i made it to ohio yesterday evening, i will be in dayton all week.

  i am gearing up for the aposta-pizzafest, its less than a week now.. i am all excited.. .

  dave

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  Dave -- Happy to see you made it up north to Dayton, Ohio . Don't forget while you're in this part of the country a poke is a bag, and instead of y'all, we say you. :)) That's about it, everything else is the same. Looking forward to seeing you and others (y'all works better here) next Sunday.
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  How many Oxymorons do you know?

  by Rod P in

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  an oxymoron is a combination of contradictory words.

  "pretty" means the opposite of "ugly".. here's a bunch of oxymorons, which i took from: .

  http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca.

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  When used by the JWs, "In the Truth" could be considered an oxymoron--or a total lie. :)