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  JW urban legends

  by kurtbethel in

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  2. beliefs

  i scraped these off of a jw message group, and they are too over the top to not pass along.

  it is interesting to see that jws pass along these yarns just as their worldly friends do.

  most of them have that vague "friend of a friend" quality that urban legends are well know for having.

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  JAVA

  Remember the demon-controlled smurf at the Kingdom Hall? It really happened; I took a picture!
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  April 15th WT- Satan = Apostates = Critical Towards Brothers = Shun Them

  by flipper in

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  2. friends

  wow.

  and so the wt society tightens down the screwdriver a bit more !

  one of my wife and my lurking jw friends sent us this article which has some very pointed words in it inciting all jehovah's witnesses to take an even harder line view of apostates in this recent april 15th wt.. on pg.

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  JAVA

  Folks buying the whole bus load of crap from the Tower will pull the covers up and follow the latest swill from Brooklyn. However, when articles like this hits the fan some might see it for what it is; a cult's feeble attempt to control and blame others for their history of failure. It won't be long before some followers will be on this site writing, "I can't believe I really believed this crap!" When the scales fall from their eyes, they'll be so pissed.
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  doing meetings not enough...i am getting re-baptised....

  by oompa in

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  2. friends

  that is probably what is holding me back from praying.....so i am taking the plunge and really meaning it this time....................oompa.

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  JAVA

  I think the Tower should hold all baptisims on April 1st, -- at least they could get one date correct!
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  Do you?

  by Quirky1 in

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  well?.

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  JAVA

  Yes, No, and Maybe . . . it all depends on . . .
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  Where else will you go?

  by wary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the po comes to see me and talks round the houses trying to find out what my problem is.. so i tell him "look its something i have to sort out for myself and i dont want to destroy your faith and make you start questioning so id rather not tell you".

  he already knew cos the first elder went to his house the second he left mine and told him about [what i thought was a private conversation between mates,] my issues.. so he proceeds to tell me a story of a brother he knows who was always very studious and knowledgable about all prophecies and the details of our beliefs.. well the guy suddenly stopped attending meetings last year, dont know why but the po seemed pretty upset about it as he was an old friend.. so he says " i said to him, but john, where will you go now on sunday afternoons,!

  and really wary where else will you go?".

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  JAVA

  As pointed out, the Tower has been using this false reasoning for eons. It works when followers are removed from the larger society, and believe everything else is evil and controlled by Satan. A circuit overseer told me that even if it wasn't "the truth" he lead a better life because of it. The fact is most people have morals that don't require them to shun family and loved ones because of a goofy high-control religious sect. Most folks are not "better" people because of being in a cult, they are just better followers that don't question.

  BTW--Welcome to all the new one!
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  Who created JEHOVAH?

  by african GB Member in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have asked this question before and i was told by jw's that it is "inappropriate, apostate, beyond our thinking, stupid", etc, etc,.... can anyone atleast give half an answer to this question?.

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  african gb member.

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  JAVA

  Jehovah, like the rest of the gods one can count off, is our creation (or mistake as others have pointed out). Religions have little power without a god hidden behind the curtain.

  When we assign names to stuff we can't prove (at least at the present time) we come up with Jehovah, etc. It's also a great way for others to influence and/or control the lives of others. My god, we'll even kill, die, love and hate for these creations.
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  My madly in love friend and what it teaches us about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by neverendingjourney in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a friend (non-jw) who's fallen for a girl who's no good.

  she's very pretty, but has been coddled since she was an infant.

  the girl is 25 years old and her mother still does all of her laundry, pays for her credit card, and comes over to clean her apartment periodically.

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  You said that the woman is 25, and I wonder if he is about the same age or younger. Folks do whatever they do, and sometimes it's hard to figure, but time and a little more experience might be the only thing that can help this guy. No person is worth the crap he is going through, but it's up to him to move on, just like we did when exiting the Tower. When looking back today I can't believe I was taken in by the WT cult, and one day he'll do the same, unless he enjoys the pain and sees himself as worthless.
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  "Millions Now Living Will Never Die" was told to be literally true

  by VM44 in

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  2. scandals

  in the 1920's the watcthower had the "millions now living will never die".

  in the proclaimer's book there is a photo of a bible students book booth with a sign that said in large letters, "millions now living will never die!

  this is literally true.

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  This is a great thread, and I appreciate the scans, too.

  I knew an old JW back in the mid '60s that remembered the "Millions" campaign. His JW filters were in place by repeating the Tower's BS about "the light getting brighter." He died in the late '70s still believing the lie. He also used to say that "if the Watchtower says that black is white, then black is white." He spent a lifetime encouraging others to examine their religion but refused to do the same.
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  Is an affair always wrong?

  by Newborn in

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  2. friends

  continue on oompas thread.... what if your sex-life is dead and your partner never finds out abt it, is it still unforgivable?

  can you live on together?

  can the cheater live on as usual?.

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  Isn't the add that comes up with this thread interesting? I never heard of the "Ashley Madison" service until now--what have we started here?
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  Witnesses don't tell you everything up front -They boil you slow like a frog!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  put a frog in boiling water and he jumps out....but turn the heat up slow and he will boil alive.

  {i hate brothers using this in talks} imagine if the witnesses told you up front what life as a witness will be like.. 1. you can never leave us when your baptized...ever, for any reason, your a witness for the rest of your life.

  we will disfellowship you for leaving.. 2. you and your family members must be trained to be willing to die rather then accept blood transfusions, even escaping from the hospital and or pulling out the drip.

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  JAVA

  Great topic, and the comparison is perfect. New converts are treated to a shell game when they start asking questions, and by the time they sign on, it's too late. Just like the frog in slow boiling water, their brain won't allow them to jump when the real truth comes out.