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  Why do even inactive Jw's play the shunning game?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  i have contacted a half dozen people thru facebook.

  all of these people i have known for 2 decades, most more than that.

  in every case, i have not been overly apostate in my statements - just a simple hi, hello, and how ya' doin' type message to them in private.. nearly all of them fall into one of two categories: never been a jw, just studied, maybe attended meetings for a while, likely not doing so nowadays.

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  I personally feel they DO that because it's easier to SHUN shomeone that is actually 'marked' or officially DF'd/DA'd - then for the inactive person (who is shunning) to LOOK in a mirror and admit that they themselves are just as f*cked up as the next person!

  I actually work with 2 fleshly sisters who are and have been inactive for YEARS!!! These woman are both baptized, and both were well liked in the org, but chose to fall away and live their lives - which is fine. Both have dated, shacked up with, and formally MARRIED non-JWs...all public knowledge of their JW families AND also an elder and his pioneer wife who are VERY close to this entire family. Nobody shuns these women when they are are out and about showing off their husbands and haven't set foot in a Khall for years....the elder/pioneer wife have dinner parties and OPENLY celebrate anniversaries/dinners/and births WITH these baptized inactive sisters, and yet I am DF'd and spoke in passing to BOTH of these 'sisters' at work and both of them acted 'put off' by our conversation!!!! I didn't talk about Biblical things, I didn't talk about what I went through, and I didn't even go into Khall 'talk'...it was simple Hi How are you doing? type of thing. Now when I see them, they shuttle past me barely lifting their heads to say a WORD - and I find it ironic purely because these women are no better then I am. Only difference is that I was woman enough to stand up and take what was dealt to me....
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  WOW!!! Just found out from someone who went to the one day assembly....

  by Lady Liberty in

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  2. scandals

  hello friends... just found out that at the recent one day assembly they are now really discouraging people from getting married!!!!!

  they will lose young ones like crazy if they start telling them that they cannot get married...what are these sexually frusterated young people to do??

  you cannot masterbate, you cannot have sex outside of marriage (not that i would encourage it either, but...), now you cannot even get married?????

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  MsDucky

  I actually went to DRepublic 5 times to 'help' out there in foreign language, visit friends, and vacation! Let me tell you, the 'interest' there is NOT how the stories really are AND the JWs that are over there party their ASSES OFF!!!! Seriously, I had a good time there...it was very different then what would be allowed here in the states.
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  Birthday silliness

  by poopsiecakes in

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  2. beliefs

  how ridiculous the fear of birthdays is when read in a court transcript..... .

  calhoun jewelers llc v. unemployment compensation board of review.

  calhoun jewelers llc, petitioner,.

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  Oh my GOD...that is funny!!! That trifflin JW tried to claim UC after quitting their job over birthday cards??? For REAL?
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  Profoundly Shock, Sadening and Traumatic Account of Mary Aguilar

  by Scott77 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  after reading this internet link below about the profoundly shocking, sadening and traumatic account of mary aguilar, an ex-jw woman's systematic treatment and abuse, what do you think regarding the action her jw abusive husband, the congregational elders, and finally, the wts attitude when she finally reported the accident to them?

  is there any related experienes that you might have come across?.

  http://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/blogs/view/306.

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  One more thing: in the org, a woman (who is being abused) has to suffer TWICE as much because (1) her loyalty to her husband comes into question, and (2) her loyalty to the org can also be questioned. THAT adds up to a 'cycle' of abuse that CAN seem never-ending to someone that has been demeaned.
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  Profoundly Shock, Sadening and Traumatic Account of Mary Aguilar

  by Scott77 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  after reading this internet link below about the profoundly shocking, sadening and traumatic account of mary aguilar, an ex-jw woman's systematic treatment and abuse, what do you think regarding the action her jw abusive husband, the congregational elders, and finally, the wts attitude when she finally reported the accident to them?

  is there any related experienes that you might have come across?.

  http://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/blogs/view/306.

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  If a stranger pounces at you on the street and takes your purse, that's one thing. If you keep going back again and again and again to a man WHOSE BEHAVIOR YOU KNOW AND CAN PREDICT, well that's your choice. "Poor me" doesn't work for me.

  I agree with you ... to a DEGREE - and I have lived through abuse. What you fail to understand is that the 'poor me' attitude SOME women who suffer at the hands of abuse have - is because they don't KNOW any better. Like those of us 'born' into the org. Things didn't FEEL right, we may have even admitted they weren't right, but we were TOLD we didn't know any better...we couldn't fend for ourselves...we wouldn't make it out there in the world. So when that is drilled in your head - that without the org, you will die and/or the world will chew you up - WHAT do you think you're going to believe? WHY do you think some stay IN the org for so long?

  Studies show that the average woman returns to her abuser 7 times! Picture that...this man tears you up, kicks your ass, makes you THINK you are worthless - and you stay (or go back). Why? Because THAT is how long it takes for her to either get the 'cojones' to leave him, or, she finally gets an escape plan together. NOT easy - NOT safe.

  But even though I have gone through an abusive relationship, I do NOT consider myself a victim - I am a survivor. A victim means that I am NOT in control - and although he didn't like it, I AM in control of my life and my choices NOW...back when I was in that relationship, I was out of control (so to speak). I do not LOOK for anyone to pity me and what I went through. Instead of it bringing me down, it's strengthened me and empowered me to stand up for myself now.
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  Most Annoying Things That Happen At JW Meetings

  by LittleSister in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today i was remembering how angry i used to get at the meetings and all the little irritations that in the end would just make my blood boil these included:.

  prayers that go on foreverstudy or wt conductors still taking comments when its clear that the point has been covered 20 times alreadymeetings over running by more than 5 minsmy favourite was this one elder who would play guess the point i am thinking of.

  he would keep rephrasing the question from the wt until someone would bring up the point he was thinking of.

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  Having to go!
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  2010 Circuit Assembly..........Sunday Program nonsense and madness.

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
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  i went to the sunday circuit assembly and came back all riled up with all the nonsense.. the sunday program was on ''safeguarding your spirituality''.

  ''it is better to remain single and not marry.

  that gives you more time for studying and the preaching work.

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  snowbird

  HAHAHAHA! Not TOO hard...I'm eating chinese and squeezing me MAY not bring out the best! -hahahaha

  Seriously though, education and JWs is a sore spot for me. I had EVERY opportunity to go to college, but because I was SO afraid to let my parents down and get DF'd for going AWAY to school, I let the decision be made FOR me. I regret that now, and wish I had just gone ahead and did what I wanted to do....
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  2010 Circuit Assembly..........Sunday Program nonsense and madness.

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i went to the sunday circuit assembly and came back all riled up with all the nonsense.. the sunday program was on ''safeguarding your spirituality''.

  ''it is better to remain single and not marry.

  that gives you more time for studying and the preaching work.

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  snowbird

  Girl - you have NO idea! I think I need a HUG!!!
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  2010 Circuit Assembly..........Sunday Program nonsense and madness.

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i went to the sunday circuit assembly and came back all riled up with all the nonsense.. the sunday program was on ''safeguarding your spirituality''.

  ''it is better to remain single and not marry.

  that gives you more time for studying and the preaching work.

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  not sure yet They are not baptized, because we wanted them to choose after they go through 'life' and are well-educated adults.

  I respect you SO much for that! Personally, I think THAT is what would make JWs a little less 'shady' - allowing ADULT children to make a decision on their own. Being raised in the org, kids are kept separate and secluded, so they have NO idea what to expect or how to do a damn thing in the world. But if after going to college, getting an education, or at least having SOME type of life experience - THEN they are qualified to decide to be a JW or not. What the heck does a kid know?
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  2010 Circuit Assembly..........Sunday Program nonsense and madness.

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i went to the sunday circuit assembly and came back all riled up with all the nonsense.. the sunday program was on ''safeguarding your spirituality''.

  ''it is better to remain single and not marry.

  that gives you more time for studying and the preaching work.

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  we are very very selfish and have some one else spent money on education so we can enjoy Doctors,Dentists,eyes specialists,engineers.The WBTS like those Lawyers,new advances high speed presses,computer engineers.

  Now THAT is what always confused me...everyone was up my BUTT about 'going to Bethel' and being a temp worker (such a privilege???) because I am a computer GEEK and wanted to go to school for that. I was a gifted honors student from middle school all the way till I graduated, was in Honor Society, took all AP course (except for math) at my PARENTS urging - yet even the THOUGHT of college was a 'no-no'!!! I mean, why PUSH so hard for your kid to excel at schoolwork when in the end, it means nothing!! No company says in an interview "Oh, I see you got all A's in high school and were gifted/honors' - do they? -hahahahahaha. My father insisted I take the SATs, I aced a mandatory state test that had college letters AND the army recruiters knocking at my door every month - offering to pay for my entire college education if I would go for some kind of computer engineering job with them!!!! All the colleges I applied to (behind my parents back) I was accepted to - and when I took that 'idea' to my parents, they immediately sent me on a tour of Bethel to see the MEPS system. The brother talked to me for the longest time about how I could come up there, work on this program, pioneer, blah blah blah. So I asked him, "do you have a comp degree?" and he said "OH well yes...I went to MIT". OOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKKKK....so I'm supposed to leave my ghetto-ass high school, jump RIGHT up here to Bethel, work on a million dollar computer system with NO formal education? Really? I left there upset more then glad for the experience. Headquarters is FULL of dr's, lawyers, engineers, computer designers, chefs, hairdressers, dentists, etc - they didn't WALK in the door with no education. did they??? So it's ok for THEM to benefit from an education - but the rest of us can't?

  What did I end up doing? Going to community college. And now? Well, the economy now calls for "4yr degree" as a BASIC requirement for entry level jobs...so it's TOUGH out there. All I have to fall back on is my experience, my 'fine' ass looks (hahahahah - just being silly), and street smarts. Nobody CARES that I was smart in high school, nobody cares that I went to community college. I resent how the org makes college look like the 'big bad wolf' that is going to EAT you up if you go...cause it makes these dingbat kids THINK that a diploma is enough! To do basic manual labor, yes a diploma is ok. But if you want a career (not just a job) then a degree is MANDATORY!!!