Posts by cyberjesus

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HELP I need some ex-elders help for a phone conversation with my JW parents

by cyberjesus in

ok this is the deal: i was dfd 14 years ago, i was just planning to go back last year.

i had planned to come back with a clean conscience so i started to study and research the wt to prove to myself this was the truth, the elders had met with me to suggest me to submit a letter of reinstatement, in the same meeting i told them i had some questions that i needed help with before i was to go back.

they said they were gonna answer those questions after i was reinstated :-d so i went by myself and started doing my research.

cyberjesus

Thanks all for the replies, Yes im pretty new at this apostate thing. However i got one of my cousins in mexico and one of my uncles here in the states that both were inactives to open their eyes. So those two are out now :-)

No I am not trying to go back anymore. I Just want my parents out. We have been so distant for the past 14 years and the 20 before we didnt even spent much time together because all the theocratic responsibilities.

They know by now that I have been doing a lot of research and I stopped going to the meetings now three other uncles here are on high alert. I think if I could split them apart and just ask questions that make them shock themselves. the whole phobia intervention....

YEah that was funny when the elders said that.... They told me .."well you have been attending the meetings for quite some time and we want you to know that the next step to go back is writting a letter ....". then I told them that at this time I still had some questions and that I needed to have answered before I went back since when I got baptized I didnt really understood what I was doing, and now I was but first I needed some clarification", then they said that I would get my questions asked after the reinstatement, that they would set up a bible study with me also... (hello I was a MS that was giving public talks already and worked as a outside bethel volunteer) Anyhow that was funny. I told them that it was like signing a contract and then reading the fine print. I said what if I dont like it? you are gonna df me again :-)

Anyway its gonna be hard to wait because my kids are ready to leave a free live, celebrating whatever they want, they even have a boxed christmas tree waiting for when they leave :-)

This is what Ive read

COC
Releasing the minds
Apocalypsis Delayed
Bible Unearthed
In search of Jesus
Who wrote the bible
How to read the bible
The time paradox
and 100s of hours of freeminds JWN JWR JWFACTS and a bunch of other websites. (I even got a response from Ray Franz yay)

Anyway Thanks for your comments and for being here, I really appreciate it.

Human love to you

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HELP I need some ex-elders help for a phone conversation with my JW parents

by cyberjesus in

ok this is the deal: i was dfd 14 years ago, i was just planning to go back last year.

i had planned to come back with a clean conscience so i started to study and research the wt to prove to myself this was the truth, the elders had met with me to suggest me to submit a letter of reinstatement, in the same meeting i told them i had some questions that i needed help with before i was to go back.

they said they were gonna answer those questions after i was reinstated :-d so i went by myself and started doing my research.

cyberjesus

Ok this is the deal: I was Dfd 14 years ago, I was just planning to go back last year. I had planned to come back with a clean conscience so I started to study and research the WT to prove to myself this was the TRUTH, the elders had met with me to suggest me to submit a letter of reinstatement, in the same meeting I told them i had some questions that I needed help with before i was to go back. They said they were gonna answer those questions after I was reinstated :-D so I went by myself and started doing my research. Within a week I found the Truth about the truth and stopped attending the meetings. I contacted my Dad who is an elder in Mexico and told him I needed to talk to him ASAP. (yeah I panicked)

In the meantime I talked to my uncle who is JW here and although he said he was gonna keep it for himself he spread it like gangrene. Now my parents and several aunts and uncles think that I am an apostate :-) My parents are coming this next week and i was planning to talk to them slowly.. ( I just finished reading Steven Hassan's RELEASING THE BONDS) so I was planning to do a 3 step intervention with them but now they are coming along with my sister who is very JW opionated.

The are coming in 3 days and Im getting nervous. I am planning to start showing them my incoditional love, asking them questions to make them think (following Hassans suggestions) and I think it would be great if I could talk to some Ex-elders that could tell their story (if I get that far with my parents)

I dont know, do you have any ideas?

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New movie about Jehovah's Witnesses and their crazy friends

by cyberjesus in

jw
friends

check this out on the sundance channel its a movie about a young sister who gets disfellowshipped and her struggle.

http://www.toverdener.dk/.

http://www.sundancechannel.com/films/500535524.

cyberjesus

in youtube you can find the spanish lite version

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EXPOSING THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY ONLINE.

by Vinny in

i still spend some time here and there exposing the wt society for what it truly is (a man originating, man run, high control religious cult-like religious institution), rather than what they tell people they are (god's appointed channel/organization/people etc).

the facts prove without a doubt that god was never behind any of this:http://www1.tip.nl/%7et661020/wtcitaten/part1.htm.

here is the link to that letter: http://newsblaze.com/story/20081209054218zzzz.nb/topstory.html.

cyberjesus

I think it was fantastic to post your letter on the media. The number of people that potentially could ripe benefits from it is worth the effort. Now the problem for most people is that after you realize that you have lied about the bible teachings and the bible translation itself, you only wonder if you could have lied at a lower level as well, i started questioning the authenticity of even the bible.

After I researched the WT and all their evil ways i went further and started researching the authenticity of the bible and found many similitudes on the reliability of the writtings.

But I leave that to the individual. I just didnt feel comfortable stoping my research at the WT level only.

Anyway I think you did a guy job.

Jesus

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New movie about Jehovah's Witnesses and their crazy friends

by cyberjesus in

jw
friends

check this out on the sundance channel its a movie about a young sister who gets disfellowshipped and her struggle.

http://www.toverdener.dk/.

http://www.sundancechannel.com/films/500535524.

cyberjesus

I just finished watching it, wow what a different perspective to see it from the outside... I wonder what does a JW thinks of this movie? Does it make them sick? Do they feel offended? Do they think is accurate? Isn't it her story the same of all us in a way?

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New movie about Jehovah's Witnesses and their crazy friends

by cyberjesus in

jw
friends

check this out on the sundance channel its a movie about a young sister who gets disfellowshipped and her struggle.

http://www.toverdener.dk/.

http://www.sundancechannel.com/films/500535524.

cyberjesus

i just found it on blockbuster.com 3.99 for 24 hours

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New movie about Jehovah's Witnesses and their crazy friends

by cyberjesus in

jw
friends

check this out on the sundance channel its a movie about a young sister who gets disfellowshipped and her struggle.

http://www.toverdener.dk/.

http://www.sundancechannel.com/films/500535524.

cyberjesus

oh haha I thought it was just released :-) where can we get the torrent version? right now is being broadcasted on cable on the sundance channel

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New movie about Jehovah's Witnesses and their crazy friends

by cyberjesus in

jw
friends

check this out on the sundance channel its a movie about a young sister who gets disfellowshipped and her struggle.

http://www.toverdener.dk/.

http://www.sundancechannel.com/films/500535524.

cyberjesus

Check this out on the Sundance Channel its a movie about a young sister who gets disfellowshipped and her struggle

http://www.toverdener.dk/

http://www.sundancechannel.com/films/500535524

what do you think?

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What Drove Me Here

by KingDavidwasframed in

*disclaimer* this was posted on a 2 year old thread and a friend suggested i start a new thread with it to introduce myself.. .

i discovered this site by accident when i was actually looking for a site to date ex jw's (probably because i know that we could relate and if they were as repressed as me growing up, they would be as horny and kinky as i am if not more so - yumm!).

i also believe that he will take care of all things in his own way.

cyberjesus

I second AwSnap. Crissis of Consciense is a must.... Dont forget was written by former member of the Government Body. And the book is Positive, very positive. Releasing the Bonds is also a good book but you must read CofC first so you can understand why you want to read Releasing the Bonds.

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wife took it pretty well i guess...it's over...

by oompa in

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friends

i guess it only took three years, but they were hell in so many ways for both of us...she was not happy and lived in denial as much as possible...i was not happy and lived in a bottle as much as possible and glad that is over for me....but it was one of the saddest things i have ever experienced in my life....as was the visit to my parents before i told her....but yes...she said she kind of expected it...was thinking something was going to happen soon as she noticed i had more and more trouble saying i love you back to her when she said it on the phone at the end of goodbyes...and when i was leaving the house...i had noticed it for over a year and it was killing me..... i told her how sorry i was for changing so much again....and that she still walks on water...and is a great person and so pretty....and that she will be ok because she was happy single before me for many years and had all she needs for that again...her closeness to jehovah and her freinds in the congregation...she is very close to both and will be ok i hope...it was very surreal....very calm...very sad.

my bitterness and disdain for wt rules came through when talking to my parents and i was very open about how i feel as to their upcoming shunning of me, and how it feels to my son since he was just 17....and how the fear of losing them had kept me trying in my marriage for the past few years...dad was firm in his position of future action....mom said they will still always love me...and will still talk to me until i get dfd.....oh how this hurts.....dad said there is a name for people who only live for themselves and deny god but could not think of what it was....i told him i was not living just for myself...that i am a good person and there are values from him and the bible i hope i always have....i cry so hard as i type this and tell you just so you can know how painful this is....i told him i so loved the rule of treating others how you want to be treated and have always done that...even allowing myself to be wronged on so many occasions to keep peace....... he said that was a good rule....i agreed and said it was a big one too....and that while i could do it...treat him the way i would like to be treated...he would not be able to!.......left as i became emotional...big hug from mom, but i just barely put an arm on dad............oompa.

cyberjesus

sorry to hear that. My parents are coming next month from mexico and they expect to go with me to the meeting...little do they know i dont go anymore, I wanted to break the news but apparently they are bringing one of the families they are studyin the WT books with.

So my turn is coming pretty soon :-)