Kriptonian7..................i will be your friend ok?And i will tell you things about the elders,and the GB,HQ that you may not know.First,i'm so sorry to hear about what happened to your sister.She was baptized as a child,but tried as an adult,and that is just plain wrong,next,Jesus was a perfect man,and yet he was not baptized until 30 years of age,so if the jws say that they follow the first centuries teachings closely,they are wrong.No one under 30 should make a vow to Jehovah,because they are just too young to realize the full scope of the vows,and second,going over a small list of baptisimal questions 100 or over 300,or whatever,does not teach the child whats totally involved in becoming a watchtower slave,because it is not as they project it,just a dedication to Jehovah.It is more about legally being bound under watchtower laws,than the laws of God.To prove my point,it was in 1985 that the GB,rewote the second baptisimal vow.What and why was it changed??????????????????????????Here it is ok?............................First,Jesus said in Matt.28,19+20............to "go therefore and make disiples,and to teach them, and to baptize them in the name of the father and the son and the holy ghost or spirit"...........The first vow didn't change much i think?But in 1985 the second one did,as they used to say a vow of dedication to the spirit,as Jesus commanded in the afore mentioned scripture,but the new 2nd vow now states,..................................vowed dedication to the lords visible organization.The GB did this for one reason only,and that is because legally before 1985,one could sue the wbts,for libel,when they were disfellowshiped,because they never vowed dedication to the wbts,but from 1985 and onward,no newly baptized jw can sue the wbts for punihing them,and shunning them,because they vow a dedication to the laws of the wbts,and are legally bound the all of the churchs rules.So if an elder,or group of elders disfellowships a brother or sister,they are fxxked.................Hummmmmmmmmmmmm???????????????????????????????????Is that not Apostacy in full form????????????By omiting the word spirit,and replacing it with,the lords organization??????????????????????????????What hypocracy right??????????What a blasphemy against the holy spirit???????????????????????...........Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
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Good Watchtower Study today
by slimboyfat ini am glad we went to the meeting this morning.
it was about how jehovah's witnesses have always taught the paradise earth for most of obedient mankind.
it mentioned how early christian leaders such as origen and augustine introduced neo-platonic thought into early christianity and allowed ideas about an immortal soul to crowd out what the bible says about the earth.
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Wobble.......................i like you man,because what you said about the watchtower study is right!....................It is just another mind controlling artical for the stupid,deaf,dumb,and the blind............rank and file seat sitters!Lies and half truths...........witch by the way is called........(intellitual chimeras)..........ok?If you take a big fat lie,like rotten cake..............and put a frosting of white truth all over it,man does it look tastie,and all truth............right?That is how HQ sells their bull shit,buy picking out a scripture here and there from out of the bible to explane their points,but because they know how to quote the word,does that mean their reasoning is right?Remember,the devil knows the word to,so if he stood there and read scriptures to us would we listen to him??????????????????????????????????,.............................Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm????
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Good Watchtower Study today
by slimboyfat ini am glad we went to the meeting this morning.
it was about how jehovah's witnesses have always taught the paradise earth for most of obedient mankind.
it mentioned how early christian leaders such as origen and augustine introduced neo-platonic thought into early christianity and allowed ideas about an immortal soul to crowd out what the bible says about the earth.
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I think that todays watchtower study was very inspiring.New light on when end will come,will be in 2034.GREAT ..................Thank you GB for the extra 25 more years of sinfull pleasures,that i now can enjoy.And what would they be?Drinking alcohol excessively to the point of tiolet facing,and becomming a pornographic xxxx film star,and turning my gender to a gxxl and back,so i am in my spiritual paradise right now.Heheheheheheh!..................................!Just when you think that the fun at the amusement park ride is over,you win a 30 year seasons pass of pleasures,nice work jws.......................i love you all so much,especially HQsGB!
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Watchtower study today at meeting
by dustyb inwell, looks like they do have a new date for the conclusion of the end, and that we should "be prepared".
even some people that commented said that 90 years of the 120 years have passed by and we should be prepared for the time at hand.
2034 people, 2034.... i've had enough, i'm talkign to the elder about this one, i don't care if i get labelled or not.
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Thank you GB guys,because this extra time = 30 more years of this old world,gives me a lot more time to enjoy turning gay,and staying that way,a happy and a satisified old man.and think of all of the xxx rated movies that i can watch,and all of the alcohol that i can drink myself to drunkenness,nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But i still might chase a skirt or two here and there,just to switch things up a bit.God it's so good to be alive,yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
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Good Watchtower Study today
by slimboyfat ini am glad we went to the meeting this morning.
it was about how jehovah's witnesses have always taught the paradise earth for most of obedient mankind.
it mentioned how early christian leaders such as origen and augustine introduced neo-platonic thought into early christianity and allowed ideas about an immortal soul to crowd out what the bible says about the earth.
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Hi ..............folks..........................i'm here..............do not fear...........for the end is nearrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!...........for those already here,i'm the new kid on the block.........the .........(witchtowerwitch)..........hehehe!......................I'm an expert on jw history.....so ask away about any subject ok?And i will tell all..............................First,i did not go to the meeting today,as it's been 15 years now that i have cleaned all of the shit out of my ears,to stop the brain diseases i once had.................Anyone with 1/2 of a brain,should laugh themselves to death over the silly rediculous,lies beig taught in there!The whole jw cult is as the Emporer wearing his new clothes,,,,,hehehe!....................I almost cry a river of tears,just thinking about all of those poor people in the kingdom halls all around the planet,being betrayed,and used as paper boys and girls,to make billions for the elite in HQ NY.One question??????????????????????????????Matt.25 says.........that Jesus waites until the great trib.is over before he sits down on his throne to choose the chosen ones,as he travels accross the heavens to find them,and to separate the sheep from the goats.So if Jesus has not done this yet,then who are these losers???????????......................self appointed yukes?????????????????????................hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???????????????????????????
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what else could they get away with?
by highdose inhaving explained/pointed out the doctrinal flip flops to some jw's i know i was astonished to find that they just brushed it all aside, on one occasion they seemed to just tune me out and quit listening.
the gb really do have them whipped, it makes me wonder what it would take for them to sit up and realise what a insane religon they are in?!
and in the meantime how much can the gb get away with because of the blind faith of their followers?
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Hi folks,i'm a 40 watchtower slave.............ex slave now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And i'm an expert on jw history....................................So ask away.I will be glad to enlighten all...................witchtowerwitch signing off for now!Stay tuned for my best work ok?
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A big Hi.................to Mr.Flipper and Gordy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!First to Mr.Flipper,thanks for the kind words of support,as i like you too man!And to Gordy,i feel you man,because,first,the elders don't care about anybody in the hall,only their selfish selves!I said earlier,that i was in there for 40 years,from age 5 to 45,so i know what the hell i'm talking about......ok?........I have seen it all in there,and it's not a pretty sight....ok?Next,Gordy...you are so right about them winning the battle against you,but they lost the war,big time when a big chunk of your family members dropped out of the cult...........right?...........Oh yes,they lost a lot,becuase they think others are so afraid,or so stupid,that they won't see their corrupt dealings in the congregation................Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???????????????????..........Well..........to shore up your point with what happened like that in my case,is this!The ARROGENT ELDERS,BLACKMAILED ME,AND DISFELLOWSHIPED ME 8 DAYS BEFORE MY DAUGHTERS WEDDING WITH DISSFELLOWSHIPMENT,IF I DID NOT COME TO THE HALL TO TALK WITH THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...................OH COURSE,I TOLD THEM ON THE PHONE,WHEN THEY CALLED ME,TO FxxK OFF..............I KNEW SOME OTHER JWS AROUND TOWN,WOULD SEE THE CORRUPTION WITH WHAT THEY DID TO ME.THE ONLY THING IS,I WASN'T SURE IF SOME WOULD BE FROM MY FAMILY,OR JUST NONFAMILY MEMBERS,OR A COMBINATION OF THE TWO..............DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED NEXT,WHEN THE ELDERS THRU ME OUT OF THE HALL??????????????????................IN THE LAST 15 YEARS RIGHT UP UNTIL THIS VERY DAY.........................................37 JW FAMILIES LEFT THE HALL OVER MY CASE.........WOW...........UP TO ABOUT 250 TO 300 PEOPLE,AND STILL COUNTING MORE CASUALTIES,AS WE SPEAK,OF THEIR LITTLE PRIVATE WAR WITH ME............NICE HUH????????????????????????????????????????????..........YEAH.................REAL SWEET HUH..........JUST AS WHEN THEY THOUGHT,WE SHOWED HIM............RIGHT?..............THEY LOST BIG TIME JWS........MABEY THE SIZE OF 2 OR 3 CONGERGATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WOW!WHAT IDIOTS.............FOR YOU SEE,I REALLY WON AGAINST THEM,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,FOR NOT BEING RIGHTEOUS CHRISTIANS,WITH LOVE AND REAL JUSTICE,MERCY,AND FORGIVENESS IN THEIR HEARTS............................MANY JWS JUST WALKED OUT OF THE KINGDOM HALL,JUST LIKE I DID,AND NEVER WHEN BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!You have heard the saying.............when you win you lose.............I'm laughing large now....The toxic elders,started a cancer with me,and it spead to the rest of the body,ha,ha,ha..................Now big boys...............how do you feel about about 300 people leaving your little shop of horrors?????????????????????.........................Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm??????????????????
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Excuse me jw sympathizers,but i was polishing a seat with my ass at the hall,because i never bought all of the bull shit in their ok?And the elders and HQ both are very responsible for their teachings and their actions.False sheppards,and super fine apostles,and blind guides are what they are.............................................They of all people know all of the lives that they have ruined.Are you kidding me???????????????They know that they are teaching a bunch of lies,it is just that they talk themselves into beleiving that they have the truth.To explain this..............lets look at what the governing body has taught for almost 100 years.........First,the temple was cleansed in 1919,then the faithfull and discreet slave in that year onward,was given all of Jesus belongings,,,,,,,,,,, right?So from today in 2009,if a witness were to go back in time 10 or 20 years ,or all the way back to 1919,and teach those older watchtower teachings,they would be disfellowshiped for apostacy,,,,,,,,,,,right?So the big question is this??????????????????????........................................DID JESUS GIVE THE WRONG BELONGINGS,THE WRONG INFORMATION TO THE SLAVE FOR THE LAST 100 YEARS???????????????????????................Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm????????????????And their is only about 12 know-it-alls,sitting on the watchtower throne,give or take a few seats in the last 100 years,makiing all of the decisions for everyone else in the cult.Another big question is this??????????????????????????????????.........................IF THEIR ARE ABOUT 8,500 ANOINTED PARTAKERS ON THE SEEN NOW,ALL OVER THE WORLD.............................................(WHY DOES ONLY 12 OF THEM CALL ALL OF THE SHOTS?)...............DO SIMPLE MATH,8,500 - 12 = 8488 BIG BOYS WHO AREN'T ALLOWED TO VOTE ON THEIR LIES AT ALL,AND FEW IF NONE OF THEM HAVE NEVER SEEN THE 12 UP IN NEW YORKS HQS,LET ALONE,SHAKE THEIR HAND,EVEN ONCE???????????????????????????????????????????.............HUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM????...The bible says,those taking the lead will receive 2 the judgement over all of the others!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Your loving witchtowerwitch signing off for now!Oh armaggeddon,was supposed to come in 1914,1915,1925 1940,1941,1955,1975,1986,2000,2005 2034?????????????Will the real armaggeddon please stand up?Why does the big 12 put dates on Jevovah's time to bring the end?When the bible clearly states in John 14:28...........no one knows the hour,not even our lord Jesus,or anyone on earth.....................................But 12 know it alls,they know more than Jesus,..............right?And what happened to the 1914 generation,that would not die off before 2000???????????.............Answer..............because by now they are all dead,...............right?Was it as the masthead said on the inside cover of the watchtower and awake magizine,that it was (THE CREATORS PROMISE????????????,......JEHOVAH'S PROPHETIC WORD????????????????????)................HUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM?..........I HAVE NEWS FOR ALL OF YOU..................JEHOVAH DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THOSE FALSE DATES...................!
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Hi again..................i'll be on here a lot,because i have a lot to say about the elders..............Stay tuned to the witchtowerwitch hour,for more goodies on the deceit and the truth about truth.New light about the elders................they now are appointed with the same powers as the 144,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..............If they judge,or make decisions,it's as if God himself has done just so.Yes elders are not trained to do anything right,and their is a lot of punishing,and secret trials over someones wrong doing,but they have no professional schooling,no hospital,no pharmacies,no rehabilitation centers,no legal right to punish on hear saying,no right to withhold information from the police,if a rape or child sex crime was commited,and no right to shun someone baptized before 1985,when the vows for baptizm were changed,and no right to threaten individuals in their congregations,or their families for going to the public for help in anyway.For some reason,these people feel that they are above questioning on anything,or HQ is above questioning too.Question is??????????????.........................................Who in the hell do these people think they are?????????????????All have sinned and fallin short of the glory of God,including the elders,and HQ.What right do they have to change one punctuation mark,or any words in the bible?HQ put the Lords name back in.in 7000 places,or something like that,but the point is this.If Jehovah preserved his word to the end of the world,why do these people need to tweek the word,or make a lot of corrections in the bible?Is God too stupid to do it on his own?Does he need sinners to edit his perfect word?????????????????????????Makes me laugh large.................God can make a perfect universe,Billions of galaxies,with Billions of stars in each one of them,but he can't deliver a simple book to us guys and girls down here???????????????????????????????????/Hummmmmmmmmmmmmm????????????
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Hi folks,i'm a 40 year veteran,and now disfellowshiped jehovah witness.When my jw ex-wife battered me for 20 years,i was silent for most of the time,until 1990.I desided to enlist the help of the elders in my congregation,so the violence against me would stop,so i thought.I was a ministerial servant for years,almost an elder myself,but i never made it to elder because of what followed after i asked them for the much needed help.For 5 striaght years from 1990 to 1995 i talked to all 7 of them,the (elders) about me being battered by my ex-wife.They even saw the black and blue fist patches on me,and the scratch and claw marks on my arms,but DID NOTHING TO HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...................NOTHING.............I was a good brother in good standing for 40 plus years,as i never cheated on my ex-wife or returned the abuse to her,and my 2 daughters saw all of this.!So when the battering continued,after i asked the elders to talk to her,they said that they don't get involved in family matters.DON'T GET INVOLVED????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????WHAT.....................What kind of monsters are these people???????????????????That is their job.Excuse me.but are not the elders supposed to be the crags to run to in times of trouble?Are they not the ones that are supposed to keep a watch over there flocks.And are they not the ones that are supposed to pray over the sick ones,and give councle on all matters,especially the family???????????????????.............My elders were just as Jesus described in the gosples.Blind guides are what they are,and lord lord,did we not prophecy in your name.....and do many powerfull works in your name?But Jesus said to them.Get away from me you workers of lawlessness.As the bible says............I will not sit with men of untruth,and with those who lie,i will not come in.So thats why i divorced my ex,because i had to go to the courts of the land to seek justice.I divorced her in 1996,and my whole witness family has shunned me for the last 15 years,and will continue to do so,as long as i don't come crawling back through the kingdom hall doors,with my tail between my legs,begging for all of their mercy.I WILL NEVER GO BACK THERE..........NEVER...!I DO NOT BOW BEFORE IDIOTS.EVERY WATCHTOWER PROPHECY HAS PROVED FALSE SINCE RUSSEL.THEY ALL CAN DO WRONG,BUT I'M THE ONLY ONE THATS NOT PERFECT LIKE THEM.If anyone would like me to tell them what the coiver-ups are in that church,please ask me ok?I will be able to tell all of you about .................1 million things that are wrong inside that religion.Example...........1914 is a false date..................and brooklyn knows this......and their trying desparately to eliminate the date of 1914.But they have a huge problem,because everyone of their doctrines,rests on the foundadtion block of 1914.Remove it,and all of their teachings would have to be scrapped.So they have painted themselves into a corner.Good luck for their future.! 1 Peter 4:17 says..................judgement begins with the house of God!