I know, notjustyet! That's exactly what I told my husband when we watched it a couple of days ago: I would never let my daughter play that girl's role in case somebody attacked her. I was particularly anxious when men were in the elevator. Panick can trigger any unexpected reaction!
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Scary TV show elevator ride in Brazil!
by moshe inthey sure know how to do weird entertainment in that country!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7n5ohnpled4.
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Minimus' Post Gave Me Courage To Finally Post My Questions, New Here
by toweragent ini have been "lurking" for about four years now.. it was an incredibly weird experience just to look at a site like jwn or freeminds.
he came off very loving.. so, i decided that i would talk to one of my elders about the things i read.
if any of you have time to read this, thank you.
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Oh, dear toweragent! What a beautiful first post! And so articulate! It took you a long time to join us (ha, ha!), but the wait was worth it. I enjoyed each and every word of it. And I can fully symphatize with your feelings... At the age of 46, after having been the hardest core (if that word exists in English) Witness you can get (since the age of 3), and loving every minute of it, inexplicably doubts began to creep up through the mountains of indoctrination. In the course of the next two years, I prayed to Jehovah non-stop pleading him to dissipate my ever growing doubts. I continued faithfully attending meetings and going out in service, doing my best to be a valuable member of my beloved congregation, trying to cling on to my precious hope, but my doubts just kept gaining magnitude to the point where most of the main doctrines crumbled down... and I faded away overnight, leaving behind the only world I had ever known, all my dear, dear friends and the warmth of the organization. But do you know what? I had expected to feel very lonely in the cold world outside, yet I was amazed at what I soon discovered: a whole new world full of wonderful people and the exhilarating feeling of beeing free to think, question and research. And that's what I've devoted myself to these last three years since my awakening, and I wouldn't trade my experience for anything. I've come a long way since then. Knowledge makes you free.
You've already taken the first step by allowing your mind to open up to new possibilities. Take it easy, don't rush. Time is extremely powerful, and, in my opinion, what you need at the moment to clarify your doubts. A couple of years from now, if you continue doing your research, you may well laugh lovingly at yourself over your current feelings of agitation. You are on the road to feeling better than you ever felt within the congregation, take it from me.
I wish you all the best and look forward to reading more posts from you. Welcome with all my heart!
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Celebrating Christmas?????
by DATA-DOG ini am just curious, and not judging.
if you are a christian and you know that december 25th is not jesus' birthday, and may have pagan roots, then why celebrate it?
i was raised a dub as most of you know, and have learned the ttatt so i know how wrong they are about a lot.
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Ha, ha, ha! Thank you, jwfacts. I just sent the quotation to my JW brother and sister, with the title "Russell was much closer to the truth...".
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An atheists grieve
by Borges ini'm reading here almost every day (kind of adicted i think).
but due to the fact, that my english isn't very good, i abstain from commenting most of the time.. nevertheless i'd like to share some thoughts with you.. .
when i learned the tatt over a year ago i quickly became an atheist.
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By the way, I've already ordered "Mortality" and "Nothing to be afraid of" from Amazon (together with "A light between oceans", ha, ha!-"Man liveth not on bread alone"-). They should be arriving in Madrid from the UK in a week or so. Can't wait! Thank you, Borges, and, again, NewChapter, for bringing them to our attention.
Freydo, "atheists are just like chickens and dogs"??? What a strange thing to say...!
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An atheists grieve
by Borges ini'm reading here almost every day (kind of adicted i think).
but due to the fact, that my english isn't very good, i abstain from commenting most of the time.. nevertheless i'd like to share some thoughts with you.. .
when i learned the tatt over a year ago i quickly became an atheist.
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Borges, I sent you a personal message.
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An atheists grieve
by Borges ini'm reading here almost every day (kind of adicted i think).
but due to the fact, that my english isn't very good, i abstain from commenting most of the time.. nevertheless i'd like to share some thoughts with you.. .
when i learned the tatt over a year ago i quickly became an atheist.
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Dear Borges, first of all I can't hold back from congratulating you on your written English, which is an absolute pleasure to read! Wow! If you can express yourself so beautifully in your second language (or maybe third?), I can't begin to imagine what it must be like to hear you speak in your mother tongue! Being a foreigner myself (born and raised in Spain), I fully appreciate the effort such a feat requires. May I ask what your native language is?
Secondly, you and I are definitely on the same page. Our feelings are practically identical, except that I was never afraid Jehovah would destroy me and that I still harbour some hope a loving powerful being may exist somewhere, although my ongoing research make chances feel really bleak some days... Boy, do I miss him! Like you, I spent decades living my life as a diehard Witness, thoroughly enjoying it, saying to myself excitedly each single night before falling asleep, "One day less for the new world!". Now, instead, I sigh with sadness and think, "One day less... for what? Eternal darkness? Another life? What is there after this?" Precisely because I love my life and enjoy each one of my days so very much, it's very hard to admit this existence may be all there is. Yes, I struggle with that too, but, do you know what? In a way, I've learnt to love the intrigue, I continue searching because I delight in the search itself, not because I have the slightest hope of finding an answer during my lifetime. It's just that I can't help wondering during each minute of my waking hours about this exquisite mystery of being alive. And I can't get over the fact that many other humans (my husband among others, ha, ha!) seem to live their lives oblivious to this miracle! Some may have just given up their search though, which I fully understand...
Hello, PSacramento!
Yalbmert99, I thoroughly enjoyed your exposition.
Thanks for your suggestion, NewChapter! The book Mortality will definitely be the next one I order from Amazon. I checked it out the minute I read your post and yes, it draws my attention powerfully!
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by goldensky inhi, my dear friends!
i haven't posted anything for a long while, but that doesn't mean you are not in my heart any longer.
nothing could be further from reality!.
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Hi, my dear friends! I haven't posted anything for a long while, but that doesn't mean you are not in my heart any longer. Nothing could be further from reality!
I just wrote this letter, one I wish I had received when I was fifteen years old, and I thought I'd share it with you. Here it goes:
"My dearest, dearest Olga,
I know receiving this letter will come as an absolute shock to you and your head will shake in disbelief at first, but in the end you'll have to give in and accept it is really me who's addressing you, the person you will become in thirty-five years' time, your future self. It's my profound tenderness for you, when I contemplate the young, naive and inexperienced girl I used to be, that moves me to contact you now. Also the awareness that I'm in an ideal position to help you live your life more fully, because I've been where you are now and I'm totally familiar with your feelings and beliefs. Besides, with the benefit of hindsight, I know what you'll go through in the course of the next few decades and I've acquired a fairly good amount of vital knowledge and experience that you can't possibly have attained yet.
You're only fifteen at the moment. Oh, I remember what it was like as if it were yesterday! So many things have happened since then... Please grant me your full attention, since it can save you a lot of heartache and secure you a much more fulfilling life than the one you will lead if you don't listen to my advice.
First and foremost - and I know what I'm about to say may put you off continuing to read any further, but it's so crucial that you hear this from me that I'm willing to risk your tearing this letter up in three seconds, so here it goes - : THIRTY YEARS FROM NOW YOU WILL DISCOVER THAT "THE TRUTH" IS NOT THE TRUTH AFTER ALL. Does this scandalize you? Are you floored beyond words? Remember, it's me, your adult self, who's telling you this. I know right now it's just impossible for you to envision this new truth, but in the end you'll find out by yourself when the time comes, so, why not start right now to make a thorough inquiry into it? I know you don't have the Internet yet, which has been an invaluable tool for me to access useful information (one day you'll wonder how you could live without it for so long), but you don't really need it: just read old publications written by the Society, find how the whole belief system of the Witnesses came into existence and brace yourself to make some astounding discoveries that will completely change the path in life you'll choose to walk. Remember: even if you don't dare do it now, you will inevitably reach the same conclusions later in life, only by then you will have wasted precious years, so take courage and make this investigation your top priority immediately. I know you will if you've read this far, because I'm fully aware of your sincerity as regards your search for the truth.
Once you open your eyes to reality, gracefully say goodbye to the only way of life you've known and the friends you're leaving behind and, without looking back, dive head-on into the whole new universe of endless opportunities that's awaiting you. Read from all sources that draw your interest, listen intently to other people's opinions, inquire in a spirit of open-mindedness, because, contrary to what you've been led to believe so far, many if not most human beings from all walks of life are trying to maintain high standards of behaviour, and each one can be a wellspring of inspiration to you if only you give them a chance.
Moving on to another subject now: I have to warn you that, unless you do something about it, you are about to enter a rather painful phase of your life that will bring you sorrow for many years: your body will soon get curvier than you wish and you'll become quite self-conscious about it. But you can spare yourself all the agonizing distress I have experienced if only you start acquiring sensible eating habits without delay, developing a healthy relationship with food and making moderate exercise a regular part of your life. Treat this wonderful instrument with all the care and gratefulness it deserves and the reward for your efforts will be a beautiful body that will loyally accompany and serve you throughout life, bringing you countless pleasurable moments.
Something else; the concepts about sex that have been drilled into your mind since childhood are altogether wrong. Not only is it not sinful to have sexual relations with the different men you will happen to be in love with, but it is downright wholesome! Don't let anybody make you feel guilty about it, no matter how well-intentioned they may be.
And in connection with this, don't be disappointed when the apparently unrepeatable initial rapture of your relationship with somebody keeps fading away with one person after another: it doesn't mean anything has failed, it's only a natural irreversible process. Just resolve not to make any drastic decisions while you are experiencing total bliss, but to wait for the magic to subside before determining if a particular man is someone you are willing to commit yourself to in a long-lasting relationship. Also, no matter how many years you've spent with that person, don't hesitate to break up and start afresh if you gradually realize you wouldn't me choosing the same man again.
I'm fully conscious you couldn't care less about having kids right now, and I know for a fact you will remain like this for years to come, but, take it from me, don't wait too long to enjoy the matchless joys of motherhood. Later in life you will regret not having had them earlier and not having had more, because, yes, you are going to have children and they will add a whole new unimaginable dimension to your life...
Just one more thought to sum up the essence of my advice to you: live in the present moment, don't lose yourself in regret over the past or concern about the future. Savour every second of the amount of time you've been granted to live on this planet, every fraction of it, because inevitable you will find yourself where I am now sooner than you believe possible.
I know you will take serious heed of my words. Actually, I could almost feel it within myself when my words ripped a veil open in your young heart the mind-boggling instant at some point during your reading when you came to the full realization it's actually me who has written these lines, you, in reality... I can feel very distinctly the full weight of responsibility that comes with knowing this letter has already begun to irreversibly alter your course in life and its outcome, and, inextricably, my own present life as well.
May you make the best out of this privileged knowledge that's been bestowed upon you.
With all my love, YOUR FUTURE SELF."
I'd love to read the letters you'd send to your younger selves...
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Sorry about this absolutley CRAZY insight to my mind.
by dm6 inhello everybody.. even thinking about typing this thread as i lay here in bed at 11.30 at night, is hard enough, but i found some sort of motivation to do it.. i dont expect a massive response really, i guess all i really want to do is empty my mind out and stop things whirring over and over.. i am worried for my brother (younger brother he is 23) he is in guernsey channel islands (uk) and is in and out of intensive care drugs etc an there are a thousand more strings attached.
(drugdealers after him, homeless, jobless, about to go to prsion long story).
its a worry for me as his older brother.
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Hey, thanks so much for letting us see your face! And for the beautiful song... Good night to you, dm6.
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Sorry about this absolutley CRAZY insight to my mind.
by dm6 inhello everybody.. even thinking about typing this thread as i lay here in bed at 11.30 at night, is hard enough, but i found some sort of motivation to do it.. i dont expect a massive response really, i guess all i really want to do is empty my mind out and stop things whirring over and over.. i am worried for my brother (younger brother he is 23) he is in guernsey channel islands (uk) and is in and out of intensive care drugs etc an there are a thousand more strings attached.
(drugdealers after him, homeless, jobless, about to go to prsion long story).
its a worry for me as his older brother.
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My dear dm6,
I've just read what you've written and I wish from the bottom of my heart I could say something that would comfort you. But all I can think of saying is that though we are (probably) continents apart, I felt very close to you as I was reading and very, very desirous to help you out.
Please know that many other readers will feel the same way. We all wish you found some happiness in life, and yes, it may happen in the most unexpected way. Life is SO full of surprises, some of them very positive, that you may find a few months or even weeks from now that you are actually enjoying your life.
Until then, know many of us will be sending you positive energy in all sincerity.
Love, OLGA.
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YouTube: On Deconstruction
by leavingwt ini remember watching these videos, early in my exit, and i enjoyed them.
(the author participated here, at one time.).
on deconstruction.
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I've just watched the five videos one after the other and I caught myself actively nodding lots of times! I relate to so much of what this nice ex-brother explains! Like Slimboyfat, I wonder what he is up to nowadays...
Thanks, Leavingwt, for posting them!