I remember of one of the largest Watchtower's estate property in Hawaii.....$$$$$$
http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/stories/1997/06/09/focus4.html..well, it was in 1997, but such a large need of high technology....
Regards, Claudia
i was using google earth and clicked on the church symbols and there were kingdom halls all over the islands there.
are there a lot of jws there???.
ken p..
I remember of one of the largest Watchtower's estate property in Hawaii.....$$$$$$
http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/stories/1997/06/09/focus4.html..well, it was in 1997, but such a large need of high technology....
Regards, Claudia
on jan 21 and 22, 2011 a nation wide protest is being organized to alert people on the discrimination that is blatantly taking place in the watchtower organization.
the public needs to know about the disfellowshipping and subsequent shunning that is going on in the jehovah's witness cult.
this flagrantly heinous,wicked practice must be stopped.
I also think that we should make each possible effort to let people know, the hidden practice of ostracism and shunning encouraged and practiced by Jehovah's people.
With my husband I have, by means of a plane trip, reached Rome to manifest our disappointment in front of the Italian Parliament!
It is a small beginning, but lots of little voices becomes a CHOIR!
Regards, Claudia
on first of december we had a manifestation to condemn the ostracism practiced from jehovah's witnesses against every disfellowshipped.
we made this manifestation in rome near the chamber of deputies.
at the event were present people from all over italy and some from switzerland.. what was done?.
I've been there! It has been exiciting to be part of the group there!
Miracles do not happen, but we try to contribute, through our efforts to let people and governments to know that JW's interpretation of the bible concerning expulsions, ostracism, disfellowshipping ARE NOT CHRISTIAN and are against INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS OF FREEDOM !
Regards, Claudia
if i never agree to meet them, can they still df me if they knew i was doing something they condemn?.
http://www.tsrforum.ch/tp/thread-327147-pourquoi-expulse http://www.tsrforum.ch/tp/thread-327147-pourquoi-expulse
"Ryan"
Le 13 novembre 2010 à 7:43 #327237Répondre
La raison pour laquelle on m'a expulsé (par téléphone) c'est parce que je suis rentré à faire partie d'une ong spécialisée dans la médiation (OIMG.ORG) et ceci au niveau professionnel car m'étais occupé du site.
…. tu es un menteur. Tu a été expulsé par téléphone car tu n'allais plus aux réunions et tu refusais tout dialogue. Comment veux-tu que l'on communique avec des personnes qui se rendent invisibles et inatteignables. L'OMG.ORG étai peut-être la goutte moins grave qui a fait déborder le vase
http://www.tsrforum.ch/tp/thread-327147-pourquoi-expulse
Following a TV transmission on JW, a forum has followed, where excited JW replied to my son, one of them (must have been the young elder who investigated on him) states the reason why they ‘had’ to expel him:
I Translate: “…you are a liar. You have been expelled by telephone because you were not attending the meetings and you were refusing to talk to us. How do you thins, we can communicate with people who become invisible and not reacheable? The fact that you were part of a OMG ORG (an organization acting as mediator in PEACE talk….) was the drop which overflaw the bucket…."
So, he has been disfellowshipped because of….a drop, and 'in absentia'!!!!
the questions from readers feb 15th 2011 raises the (no doubt burning in many jws minds) question about why moses became angry with aarons 2 sons after the death of their brothers.. the wtbts undertakes to answer this question but really doesn't seem unsure of themselves (perhaps the channel of communication was suffering some interference that day.
) notice the numerous ways that the wtbts in a short (half page) article hedges its bets.
it reminded me of a schoolboy cooking up a story when he was caught with his hands in the cookie jar , vacillating & hedging as he tries to think up an acceptable answer.. it appears that , the surviving priests had evidently acted , aaron may have wondered , perhaps he felt , aaron mayespecially have reasoned , aaron may have thought , moses seems to have accepted , evidently, jehovah too was satisfied.. .
Who cares for family fights happened thousands years ago????? Who cares for WT assumptions?
But if today we would write to them asking suggestions to settle family problems, they would say: 'Put everything in Jehovah's hands'...!!!!!!!!!!
Regards, Claudia
The most simple to prepare: Spaghetti, olive oil, garlic
Fry 2 smashed garlic cloves in 2-3 spoon of olive oil, add some hot pepper and some parsley (not compulsory)
In the meantime cook the spaghettis, take them out of the water after 7 minutes (generally) and mix with the oil+garlic. Serve with some parmesan cheese granted on the top. Right?
Regards, Claudia
after the swiss tv program on jehovahs witnesses,.
http://www.tsr.ch/emissions/temps-present/2482487-grandir-avec-jehovah.html.
where my children and husband (all dissociated or disassociated) were characters, a forum followed the program on which everybody could give his comments.. .
Some comments on this video here:
a few days ago.
Regards, Claudia
after the swiss tv program on jehovahs witnesses,.
http://www.tsr.ch/emissions/temps-present/2482487-grandir-avec-jehovah.html.
where my children and husband (all dissociated or disassociated) were characters, a forum followed the program on which everybody could give his comments.. .
After the Swiss TV program on Jehovah’s witnesses,
http://www.tsr.ch/emissions/temps-present/2482487-grandir-avec-jehovah.html
where my children and husband (all dissociated or disassociated) were characters, a forum followed the program on which everybody could give his comments.
Lots of people, recognized the enormous strength and boldness to witness openly on their life and beliefs. (Our town is not so large).
But many others, mostly JW or friends of them, have been so insulting, mocking, slanderer and vilify, specially our children. A way of talking I’ve never supposed a JW could use. Fortunately the forum was closed, but the harm has been done.
I’ve never been like this people! I could never imagine such hate and gossip. Though, the content of the program was quite mild and even impersonal, no explicit attack to the org.
What kind of people JW are, behind a screen? Champions of hypocrisy before a door, laughing hyena behind a screen!
They were all brothers and sisters for me…I realize, I, only I and my family have been real brothers and sisters to them….
What a whole life waste of energy, time…
Regards, Claudia
i just received the email below from an xjw in quebec.
we were wondering if we would get to see the program, a jw expose', we were interviewed for last spring and now everyone can see it all on the internet.
it aired on swiss tv yesterday.
Lifetooshrt says:
I am so glad that some good and wonderful people like you, Joe and Roberto and his children have the courage to stand up against evil. It is so hard to do, I know only too well.
You are right, but not all are so glad. I've been reading the hundreds of posts on the TV forum, many JW answering disgusting and sickening sentences against Roberto and his children, attacking the person, no matter what has been said. I'm sick about that, I thought they were brother and sisters and I though they felt the same love and respect we felt for them.
I complaint the poor elder Mayor who didn't know how to react to the question on incest. The problem is that JW cannot answer by INSTINCT...Incest? I would go rapidly to the Police! No JW, cannot answer this way, Behtel has to dictate to them how to react!!!!!
Is there a pilot on the plane? Yes..that's the Bethel... JW's lives are directed from them...from there!!!!!!
okay guys, i have a little time on my hand ( a little).. as i was going through public school, the persecutions and ostracism remained.
it was a very difficult thing to be a jw kid in comunism.
parents could not "homeschool" like in us, which i am sure my mother would have done if she could.
Wow, what an experience. In love with Robert, with the WT, with Beethoven....too many to love!!!
..Well, I'm waiting for the third part...
Regards, Claudia