in total, the last few years, for family and a few friends, i spent over $2000.. this year, i expect to spend no more than $1000.. will you spend more or less this year?.
Each year my husband and I split the christmas list right down the middle. He buys gifts for me and the kids and includes other family members on his list like his siblings, mother and nieces and nephews and I do the same. This year my list includes my husband and 2 kids, 2 brothers, 1 sister, 2 sister inlaws, 1 brother inlaw, 3 nephews, 2 nieces and 2 of my best friends.
My budget is $600 on the low end and $800 on the high end. Hoping to hit somewhere in between. Lilly
i have been reading and investigating matthew 12:1-8. jesus is accused of breaking the law of the seventh day of rest, the sabbath.
he defends himself and then caps the discussion by declaring himself to be "the lord of the sabbath.
" since only yhwh was ever known as the lord of the sabbath (the one who created, owned, and received worship on the sabbath) i can find no other valid meaning for the title jesus gave to himself, except that he is calling himself god.. what meaning does the wts put on this title, since i know they are not willing to allow jesus to call himself yhwh?.
What does it mean when Jesus said he was Lord of the Sabbath? Matt. 12:8 The Jews had many traditions with respect to the Sabbath and how it was to be kept. They had many regulations restricting behavior that were not found as prohibitions in the Law of Moses. They did not allow the lighting of candles on the Sabbath. They made it unlawful to throw more grain to their poultry than could be eaten lest some of it might sprout and grow and therefore they would be guilty of sowing on the Sabbath. They taught that it was unlawful to swat a fly on the Sabbath. Jesus did not think that it was necessary to observe all of the trivial regulations that came about through the traditions of men even though it brought criticism of himself and his disciples on numerous occasions. Jesus received more criticism about what he did and did not do on the Sabbath than he got on any other matter. I think it is interesting to list some of the criticism he received. Mark 3:1-6 - He was criticized for healing a withered arm on the Sabbath. Mark 3:4 Luke 4:33-39 - Jesus cast out a demon from a man in the synagogue and then went home with Peter and healed his wife’s mother. John 5:5-18 - Jesus heals a man who had been unable to walk in thirty-eight years. He told him to “Get up, pick up your pallet and walk., ” and the man did! Verse 10 says John 5:10 John 9:1-16 - Jesus heals a blind man, a man blind from birth. John 9:16 Luke 13:10-17 With that as background, lets return to our verse: Matt. 12:8 Jesus calls himself the “Son of man.” It is interesting to note that neither Mark or John calls “Jesus Son of man,” but they do record the fact that he called himself “Son of man.” The title is used in Daniel 7:13 with reference to the Messiah. It identifies the humanity of our Lord. He was Son of God and Son of Man. As the Son of God Jesus came to earth clothed with the authority of God Himself. John 8:28-29 Since Jesus had authority from God, he had the authority while on earth to forgive sins. An example of this is found in Mark 2: Mark 2 John 5;27 The Scriptures tell us that it is the “Son of Man” who will send forth the angels to gather out of His Kingdom all stumbling blocks (Matt. 13:41) It is the “Son of Man” who will come in the glory of His Father to separate the righteous from the wicked and execute the wrath of God upon the wicked (Matt. 25:31-46. It is the “Son of Man” who is our mediator, himself man, interceding at the right hand of God for us (1 Tim. 2:5). “The Son of Man” had the right to claim that he was lord of the Sabbath and therefore had the right to interpret the laws regulating the actions of his disciples on that day. Since Jesus was God in the Flesh (John 1:1-14) surely he had the right to understand the nature of the Sabbath and its purpose, as well as the law regulating its observance. He was, therefore, lord or master of the Sabbath |
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i mean a prophecy made before the event, with specific detail that can be verified in history books.
nothing vague like 'reports of wars'.. .
EVerAStudent,
What I said was this;
While some will say that Psalm 22 is not a direct prophecy as this was written about David and is not "technically" a book of prophecy, (like Isaiah, Ezekiel etc) but a book of prayers, it could still be argued by some (me included) that David wrote this under inspiration as an event that would later forshadow events that applied to Jesus Christ, our Messiah. That is why the Apostle's applied these verses to Jesus during the accounts of his passion.
Sorry about the misunderstanding. As an avid student of the bible I do recognize that many of the writings in the hebrew Scriptures, even those not directly claiming to be prophetic, were in fact prophetic after all. God is all his wisdom knew what he was doing. Peace, Lilly
has anyone read this book?.
reckless rumors, misinformation and doomsday delusions - paperback (jan 1, 2000) by ralph woodrowproduct descriptiona thorough study of rumors, especially those that involve christians in one way or another.
the knights of columbus oath, procter & gamble trademark, george washingtons vision, the bible code, nostradamus predictions, shroud of turin, madalyn murray ohair and the fcc, janet reno on 60 minutes, drilling into hell, etc.. it looks interesting.
Hi Robyn,
Hope your day is going good! Enjoyed those FAX of life you sent me.
I am going to get a copy for my daughter. She LOVES these religious conspiracy theories. Thought I may get a good chuckle out of it too. Shalom, Lilly
has anyone read this book?.
reckless rumors, misinformation and doomsday delusions - paperback (jan 1, 2000) by ralph woodrowproduct descriptiona thorough study of rumors, especially those that involve christians in one way or another.
the knights of columbus oath, procter & gamble trademark, george washingtons vision, the bible code, nostradamus predictions, shroud of turin, madalyn murray ohair and the fcc, janet reno on 60 minutes, drilling into hell, etc.. it looks interesting.
Has anyone read this book?
Reckless Rumors, Misinformation and Doomsday Delusions - Paperback (Jan 1, 2000) by Ralph Woodrow
A thorough study of rumors, especially those that involve Christians in one way or another. The Knights of Columbus oath, Procter & Gamble trademark, George Washingtons Vision, the Bible code, Nostradamus predictions, Shroud of Turin, Madalyn Murray OHair and the FCC, Janet Reno on 60 Minutes, drilling into Hell, etc. It looks interesting. I found out about it while reading another booklet about Christians and wierd beliefs. I may order it from Amazon.com
am i being silly or do some other religions have a different understanding of who the 'other sheep' are?.
when i was a jw, i could see so clearly that this group is the gentiles.
that is, of course, reading the text 'in context', rather than simply placing it in a flakey jw leaflet.. why can jehovahs witnesses not see that they are so wrong on this point?.
Why can't JW's see this obvious truth?
Because they have WT blinders on their eyes and these work as filters so they can only "see" what the WT tells them to.
are the jehovah's witnesses beginning to snap under the pressure of their involvement with the watchtower organization's teachings and policies?
many are being sent over the edge... newspapers around the world are reporting heinous and evil acts that are connected to the jehovah's witness religion.
all of this bad press is casting a dark shadow over the doorway at 25 columbia heights, brooklyn, ny.
There have been studies though that show that Jehovah's Witnesses have an unusually high rate of mental illness compared to the rest of society. Stress can cause mental illness or worsen the symptoms. I've had depression and PTS disorder my entire life but it was really bad when I was in the WT.
Think about how negative that organization is. Also the stress of all the "works" you have to do and you never measure up to their ideals anyway. I had suicidal thoughts many times while in the WT but since leaving the WT 7 years ago, I have been much better. I am not on any meds right now except some herbal treatments and talking to a therapist.
Also my daugther was diagnosed with social anxiety disorder when she was only 10, directly linked to being raised in the tower and not having any association outside of it. Once I started to let her associate more with peers from school, she was able to overcome it almost completely. She still has issues with this but is much better as well.
for 26 years, marilyn zweifel has been standing by to take the calls from all of those who have been touched by the tentacles of the watchtower organization.
she has helped so many people to work out their problems and suffering because of the jehovah's witnesses.
marilyn will be our guest on the six screens of the watchtower conference call saturday, november 21, 2009 7pm est.
Thanks Rick,
I have to work but will try to join in until them. Peace Lilly
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Interesting article.
Not to be picky with the writer but I think the title Adonay and El Shadday should be Adonai and EL Shaddai. When I left the WT cult and began a real study of the bible (which took more than a year btw) I bought several bible translations along with a Tanakh (Jewish bible by Jerusalem translation society). And I was amazed just how many names (and titles) for God the bible contains especially in the OT. So for JW's to insist that Jehovah is the only acceptable name is totally ridiculous. Here is a another list, some not included in the above article.
Names for God in the Tanakh - hebrew Scriptures
EL: God ("mighty, strong, prominent") used 250 times in the OT See Gen. 7:1, 28:3, 35:11; Nu. 23:22; Josh. 3:10; 2 Sam. 22:31, 32; Neh. 1:5, 9:32; Isa. 9:6; Ezek. 10:5. El is linguistically equivalent to the Moslem "Allah," but the attributes of Allah in Islam are entirely different from those of the God of the Hebrews. ELAH is Aramaic, "god." Elah appears in the Hebrew Bible in Jer. 10:11 (which is in Aramaic, and is plural, "gods"). In Daniel (the Aramaic sections) Elah is used both of pagan gods, and of the true God, also plural. Elah is equivalent to the Hebrew Eloah which some think is dual; Elohim is three or more. The gods of the nations are called "elohim." The origin of Eloah is obscure. Elohim is the more common plural form of El. Eloah is used 41 times in Job between 3:4 and 40:2, but fewer than 15 times elsewhere in the OT.
ELOHIM: God (a plural noun, more than two, used with singular verbs); Elohim occurs 2,570 times in the OT, 32 times in Gen. 1. God as Creator, Preserver, Transcendent, Mighty and Strong. Eccl., Dan. Jonah use Elohim almost exclusively. See Gen. 17:7, 6:18, 9:15, 50:24; I Kings 8:23; Jer. 31:33; Isa. 40:1.
EL SHADDAI: God Almighty or "God All Sufficient." 48 times in the OT, 31 times in Job. First used in Gen. 17:1, 2. (Gen. 31:29, 49:24, 25; Prov. 3:27; Micah 2:1; Isa. 60:15, 16, 66:10-13; Ruth 1:20, 21) In Rev. 16:7, "Lord God the Almighty." The Septuagint uses Greek "ikanos" meaning "all-sufficient" or "self-sufficient." The idols of the heathen are called "sheddim."
ADONAI: Lord in our English Bibles (Capital letter 'L ', lower case, 'ord') (Adonai is plural, the sing. is "adon"). "Master'' or "Lord" 300 times in the OT always plural when referring to God, when sing. the reference is to a human lord. Used 215 times to refer to men. First use of Adonai, Gen. 15:2. (Ex. 4:10; Judges 6:15; 2 Sam. 7:18-20; Ps. 8, 114:7, 135:5, 141:8, 109:21-28). Heavy use in Isaiah (Adonai Jehovah). 200 times by Ezekiel. Ten times in Dan. 9.
JEHOVAH: LORDin our English Bibles (all capitals). Yahweh is the covenant name of God. Occurs 6823 times in the OT First use Gen. 2:4 (Jehovah Elohim). From the verb "to be", havah, similar to chavah (to live), "The Self-Existent One," "I AM WHO I AM" or 'I WILL BE WHO I WILL BE" as revealed to Moses at the burning bush, Ex.3. The name of God, too sacred to be uttered, abbreviated ( . . . . ) or written "YHWH" without vowel points. The tetragrammaton. Josh., Judges, Sam., and Kings use Jehovah almost exclusively. The love of God is conditioned upon His moral and spiritual attributes. (Dan. 9:14; Ps. 11:7; Lev. 19:2; Hab. 1:12). Note Deut. 6:4, 5 known to Jews as the Sh'ma uses both Jehovah and Elohim to indicate one God with a plurality of persons.
JEHOVAH-JIREH: "The Lord will Provide." Gen. 22:14. From "jireh" ("to see" or "to provide," or to "foresee" as a prophet.) God always provides, adequate when the times come.
JEHOVAH-ROPHE: "The Lord Who Heals" Ex. 15:22-26. From "rophe" ("to heal"); implies spiritual, emotional as well as physical healing. (Jer. 30:17, 3:22; Isa. 61:1) God heals body, soul and spirit; all levels of man's being.
JEHOVAH-NISSI: The Lord Our Banner." Ex. 17:15. God on the battlefield, from word which means "to glisten," "to lift up," See Psalm 4:6.
JEHOVAH-M'KADDESH: "The Lord Who Sanctifies" Lev. 20:8. "To make whole, set apart for holiness."
JEHOVAH-SHALOM: "The Lord Our Peace" Judges 6:24. "Shalom" translated "peace" 170 times means "whole," "finished," "fulfilled," "perfected." Related to "well," welfare." Deut. 27:6; Dan. 5:26; I Kings 9:25 8:61; Gen. 15:16; Ex. 21:34, 22:5, 6; Lev. 7:11-21. Shalom means that kind of peace that results from being a whole person in right relationship to God and to one's fellow man.
JEHOVAH ELOHIM: "Lord God" Gen. 2:4; Judges 5:3; Isa. 17:6; Zeph. 2:9; Psa. 59:5, etc.
JEHOVAH-TSIDKENU "The Lord Our Righteousness" Jer. 23:5, 6, 33:16. From "tsidek" (straight, stiff, balanced - as on scales - full weight, justice, right, righteous, declared innocent.) God our Righteousness.
JEHOVAH-ROHI: "The Lord Our Shepherd" Psa. 23, from "ro'eh" (to pasture).
JEHOVAH-SHAMMAH: The Lord is There" (Ezek. 48:35).
JEHOVAH-SABAOTH: "The Lord of Hosts" The commander of the angelic host and the armies of God. Isa. 1:24; Psa. 46:7, 11; 2 Kings 3:9-12; Jer. 11:20 (NT: Rom. 9:29; James 5:4, Rev. 19: 11-16).
EL ELYON: 'Most High" (from "to go up") Deut. 26:19, 32:8; Psa. 18:13; Gen. 14:18; Nu. 24:16; Psa. 78:35, 7:17, 18:13, 97:9, 56:2, 78:56, 18:13; Dan. 7:25, 27; Isa. 14:14.
ABHIR: 'Mighty One', ("to be strong") Gen. 49:24; Deut. 10:17; Psa. 132:2, 5; Isa. 1:24, 49:26, 60:1.
BRANCH: (tsemach), The Branch: Zech. 3:8, 6:12; Isa. 4:2; Jer. 23:5, 33:15.
KADOSH: "Holy One" Psa. 71:22; Isa. 40:25, 43:3, 48:17. Isaiah uses the expression "the Holy One of Israel" 29 times.
SHAPHAT: "Judge" Gen. 18:25
EL ROI: "God of Seeing" Hagar in Gen. 16:13. The God Who opens our eyes.
YESHUA: (Yeshua) "Savior" ("he will save"). Isa. 43:3. Jesus is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew "Joshua." The latter is a contraction of Je-Hoshua. ("Christ", the anointed one is equivalent to the Hebrew Maschiah, or Messiah).
GAOL: "Redeemer" (to buy back by paying a price). Job 19:25; For example, the antitype corresponding to Boaz the Kinsman-Redeemer in the Book of Ruth.
MAGEN: "Shield" Psa. 3:3, 18:30.
STONE: Gen. 49:24
EYALUTH: "Strength" Psa. 22:19.
TSADDIQ: "Righteous One" Psa. 7:9.
EL-OLAM: Everlasting God" (God of everlasting time) Gen. 21:33; Psa. 90:1-3, 93:2; Isa. 26:4.
EL-BERITH: "God of the Covenant" Used of Baal in Judges 9:46. Probably used originally to refer to the God of israel.
EL-GIBHOR: Mighty God (Isa. 9:6)
ZUR: "God our Rock" Deut. 32:18; Isa. 30:29.
Malachi calls Messiah "The Sun of Righteousness" (Malachi 4:2).
Isaiah calls Messiah "Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God (El Gibhor), Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace" (Isa. 9:6).
'Attiq Yomin (Aramaic): "Ancient of Days," Dan. 7:9, 13, 22.
MELEKH: "King" Psa. 5:2, 29:10, 44:4, 47:6-8, 48:2, 68:24, 74:12, 95:3, 97:1, 99:4, 146:10; Isa. 5:1, 5, 41:21, 43:15, 44:6; 52:7, 52:10.
"The Angel of the Lord: " Gen. 16:7ff, 21:17, 22:11, 15ff, 18:1-19:1, 24:7, 40, 31:11-13, 32:24-30; Ex. 3:6, 13:21, Ezek. 1:10-13. Seen in the theophanies, or pre-incarnate appearances of the Son of God in the OT (See I Cor. 10:3 NT).
FATHER: 2 Sam. 7:14-15; Psa. 68:5; Isa. 63:16, 64:8; Mal. 1:6.
THE FIRST AND LAST: Isa. 44:6, 48:12.
IMMANUEL, or EMMANUEL, or IMANUEL: "God with us." Isaiah 7:14, 8:8. Quoted in Matthew 1:23.
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i mean a prophecy made before the event, with specific detail that can be verified in history books.
nothing vague like 'reports of wars'.. .
Wow, lots of good information. Here is my two cents. I am not a biblical "scholar" like Leolaia so I will keep it short.
I am in agreement with Leolaia. To say the NT writers were complete liars is going a little too far. Like she said you need to understand the literary style of people in that day.
As far as Psalm 22 it is NOT a prophecy in the sense that it states "this is about the Messiah". It is a lament of David when he felt he was being oppressed by those he did not provoke and was underserving of such treatment. To be technical, Psalms are mostly prayers and this one is a prayer of David under unprovoked attack.
However, because of the similarities of how David was oppressed when underserving of such harsh treatement and the oppression and attack on the Christ, the NT writers applied these verses to Jesus. Both Matthew and Mark alluded to this prayer in their accounts of Christ's passion. (Mt 27:35,39,43; Jn 19:23-24:28)
Again this is not a direct prohecy about Jesus. However, some would argue that since David was under inspiration of Holy Spirit, his prayer did forshadow the much later events of the oppression of Jesus. As many Christians beleive the stories and writings in the OT ALL forshadow and point to Jesus Christ and that this was how God intended it, even if those writing them did not realize it at the time. So in a way it is an "indirect" prophecy about Christ.
Again, to say they are complete liars or fabricators would not be the correct view. Peace, Lilly
