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  Are you so faded that Actives no longer encourage but respect you?

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  i know it sounds strange but all the jw's i have contact with are no longer "encouraging" me to attend meetings.

  in fact not one of them invited me to the memorial even though we had dinner together at my house three nights before.

  i think i have them totally bamboozled with my reasoning why i don't attend.

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  This was my case until very recently. The only people who continued to nag me were within my family, but with the build-up to the Memorial this year, I started getting "shepherded" a bit by the elders (I even got a few CO voicemails). I haven't been to any type of meeting since the 2005 Memorial, so it's a bit odd. I'm avoiding them, though. :)

  I think that, like others here, most of my old friends have given up on me. I was pretty public about pursuing higher education and cocurricular activities -- I kept ending up in the local papers for various accomplishments -- so I think everyone figured out that I wasn't coming back. There's this little part of me that really wants someone to reach out, other than the dreaded elders that are after me, because I'd like to know that I haven't been forgotten. But the rational 99% of my mind knows that a) those people never truly loved me anyway and b) I really love my life now and want to be left alone.
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  Do any of you still believe in 'Hellfire'? heh

  by theMadJW in

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  2. bible

  that they (trinity) are burning billions alive...forever?

  with worms that live forever gnawing on them?.

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  There's no "still" for me...I was born-in, so I never believed in Hell growing up, and then I never believed in it after.
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  conventions on jw.org

  by bereanbiblestudent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower site added a new function called lookup to find where the conventions are held and when.. do they not tell that at the kingdom hall?.

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  If you want to follow an anonymous link they can't easily track, go through http://anonym.to/?http://www.jw.org/index.html?option=YBBXHC instead. But really, virtually every site out there is able to log the site, ISP, and country from which you're coming. Even if you copy and paste a link into a new browser window, admins can still get basic information about you.

  Sorry if there's some type of taboo here against directly linking WTBTS sites, but from my browsing of previous threads, I figured it was fine. It looks like there are lots of links up to both jw-media.org and watchtower.org.
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  conventions on jw.org

  by bereanbiblestudent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower site added a new function called lookup to find where the conventions are held and when.. do they not tell that at the kingdom hall?.

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  Do you have a link? I glanced around the site but couldn't find it anywhere.

  It's the third tab at the top on the main page. Here's a direct link.
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  Ambiguities surrounding the enforcement of Watchtower rules

  by drew sagan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i could write a good bit on this topic, but thought i would simply open this up for discussion.

  here are a few things to think about:.

  - the watchtower has no fundamental writing that it turns to as its foundational text.

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  CO's are a big influence, and their particular "bent" determines the application of some of these fluid rules.

  Which makes it all the more confusing when you get a new one. It's impossible to keep up, so it's easier to just say, "Screw it, nothing's allowed."
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  Should I have ridden Disney's Carousel?

  by Bystander39 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since witnesse beliefs state to avoid all thing with shady, war-like, occult, etc.

  background, the following information taken from zigzone.com caused me to wonder if they are allowed to ride the carousel at disney world.

  weren't we told to avoid playing chess because of its war training background?.

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  Now that this has been posted on here, you know some pious elder's already finding a way to work it into an upcoming talk. :p

  (And my congregation always had chess at our game nights. Oopsies! I guess we were pretty hardcore rebels with our board games...)
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  Ambiguities surrounding the enforcement of Watchtower rules

  by drew sagan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i could write a good bit on this topic, but thought i would simply open this up for discussion.

  here are a few things to think about:.

  - the watchtower has no fundamental writing that it turns to as its foundational text.

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  Where I was from, for years it was common to have a party when a young person graduated from high school. Obviously, they weren't allowed to attend their actual school graduation, so their parents would throw a party and dance for the JW's.

  Wow, they banned the commencement ceremony itself? In my area, it was always just the prom and after-party that were banned. I'm always fascinated by these regional differences.
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  Is the YMCA now a concience matter?.....

  by Aussie Oz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the following is a little exchange on facebook i had, me playing devils advocate.

  now, i am well aware after a search of the wt library 08 that the wbts saw no problem using ymca pools to do baptisms in the 1950s, and then in the 1979 had the big article saying a jw cannot join the y. so is this guy wrong, or has it changed?.

  you wroteon january 9, 2010 at 8:25pm.

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  I agree with others...joining the Y is still very much not accepted. In fact, my town has a public building known as the "Commmunity Y" where you can pay to use gym facilities, and the elders tell people to not go there because, even though it's not actually part of the YMCA/YWCA, they don't want anyone to be "confused" by seeing Witnesses there. My mother had to turn in her membership card after someone was nearly "stumbled" by seeing it in her wallet while they were buying coffee on a service break.
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  conventions on jw.org

  by bereanbiblestudent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower site added a new function called lookup to find where the conventions are held and when.. do they not tell that at the kingdom hall?.

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  A lot of people need to go to an alternate convention for health or family reasons, and some like to go to additional conventions. I remember they used to publish the full list in either the Watchtower or the KM, but that list only covered your own country and a couple international ones. So this is actually pretty helpful for people looking for that info...yet I can't imagine they'll encourage people to go on-line to find it, since that would involve using the dreaded Internet. ;)
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  Deaf Mute Disfellowshippings

  by Celtic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anyone know of anyone who has been disfellowshipped who has deaf and mute impairment?

  how did they cope and what support network platform is there for them on leaving?.

  peace.

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  My mother was an interpreter for quite a long time. Most Deaf congregations tend to be in areas with large Deaf populations in general, and most of those populations have good networking in place for support reasons, so I imagine the transition might actually be somewhat easier in that respect. At least around here, Deaf Witnesses tend to have more interaction with the outside. They won't get financial assistance from the congregation any longer, but at least they'll still have people with whom they can interact -- an advantage many ex-Witnesses don't have. But I imagine it differs widely based on area, culture, and the like.