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Snotrag
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Never happen, dinosours were invented to eat vegetation and each other so that we could have oil. Its the only plausable explaination for them to have existed for the lenght of time they were on the planet.
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A Paradox for JWs and other religious people
by NutFlush ini was raised a jw and left nearly 15 years ago before/when i went away to college.
since then, i have had nothing to do with organized religion (or non-organized religion, for that matter).
in my experiences, fervent religious belief has not correlated well with things such as critical reasoning ability or secular success as measured by profession, level of education, income, etc.. i was browsing the blog of a semi-well-known guy who has worked in some of the same fields as me and came upon the following passage:.
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Snotrag
bohm
I agree, its impossible to calculate with any degree of precision. If you just take a hydrogen atom the simpleist atom and try to figure out what it is made of you have all kinds of theory about all kinds of particles but you still have an atom. The question is how did this atom appear spontainiusly from nothing. What are the odds? but now you have untold trillions of atoms of hydrogen as well as all the other elements in their quantities as they exist and somehow they manage to form together randomly to have matter. Then you have forces tha come from nowhere make things bind, gravity, time, magnetism that come into existence from nowhere. The one, matter, has nothing to do with the other ,force, yet they find a way to act together and all of a sudden you have stars, then from somewhwhere the elements come together to have planets and of course this all happened at random. What has gravity got to do with heat. What are the odds? Yet it is here, by observation it all appears to exist around us. Now after all these physical things just happen and the forces that came from nowhere act upon the matter and you get life. Absolutly none of the things that appeared from nowhere have life in themselves yet life appeared. What are the odds that these things just happened?
there are so many components that come into play that are part of existence that to have each one all appear in one place at one time cannot be random. the odds are too long.
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A Paradox for JWs and other religious people
by NutFlush ini was raised a jw and left nearly 15 years ago before/when i went away to college.
since then, i have had nothing to do with organized religion (or non-organized religion, for that matter).
in my experiences, fervent religious belief has not correlated well with things such as critical reasoning ability or secular success as measured by profession, level of education, income, etc.. i was browsing the blog of a semi-well-known guy who has worked in some of the same fields as me and came upon the following passage:.
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Given that billions of years may have transpired before the first creature appeared on earth, why is it so unreasonable to believe that it could have happened by chance?
If you play the lottery with 10,000,000 to one odds the chance of getting the numbers you picked are the same each time you play, that is 10 million to one. You could play 10 million times and not hit the lottery because the odds are each time the same, they do not change because you played one time. The point I'm trying to make is the same, for whatever it took to have certain amino acicds come together and somehow gain life in a random manner on a planet with water and amosphere and temperature and nutrients and sunlight and whatever binds these things together has odds so long that 15 billiion years cannot contain them. In fact I think the odds are so long that all these things coming together at on time in one space would take longer than eternity.
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A Paradox for JWs and other religious people
by NutFlush ini was raised a jw and left nearly 15 years ago before/when i went away to college.
since then, i have had nothing to do with organized religion (or non-organized religion, for that matter).
in my experiences, fervent religious belief has not correlated well with things such as critical reasoning ability or secular success as measured by profession, level of education, income, etc.. i was browsing the blog of a semi-well-known guy who has worked in some of the same fields as me and came upon the following passage:.
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Snotrag
I think the probability of God exists because the position of time in the formation of the universe. The earth was formed a certain distance from the sun that allows a certain extreme of temperatures to exist, the iron core of the earth allows for magnetic poles that hold the amosphere in place against the force of the suns solar wind, there is a shield around the solar system that prevents really nasty radiation from entering the zone, the interaction of oxygen and caron dioxide in plants fuel the ability of animal life to breath, the idea of water being the combination of two gasses is quite something, all of the complexity of the variety of life on this planet, this stuff did not just happen. The universe is on some 15 billion years old as far as can be ascertained by mankind, and the earth is only 4.5 billion years old. In a random exchange of probabilities that is not enough time to have all of these things come to pass. The universe was made on purpose. The earth was made on purpose. Probably man was made on purpose. Is this what the end result is supposed to be?, I don't know. It could be that land squirrels are the end result of what is wanted here or even cockroaches. The point is that this place is not an accident. The religion factor of your question is open to me because all that there is beyond what you can see is conjecture about a book that may or may not contain the answers. Unless and until that can be established all we have is beer. BTW welcome to exwitness theology 101.
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CHOICE may be a mere illusion. FREE WILL a trick of the mind's ego
by Terry inthings are what they are.. everything acts according to its nature.. nothing escapes its own nature.. we cannot be other than what we are and our "choices" follow our nature.. consequently, can we not say correctly that free choice is merely our ignorance of the fact that all our actions and choices are predetermined by our nature?.
1. if you are offered either a handful of dog poop or a cold dove bar---is your "choice" really much of a choice?
2. offer a heterosexual male a night with a hot chick or a hot dude...is the outcome really "choice"?
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How can a measurement be made? Unless you can see into anothers mind their is no way to measure. Even then you are measuring with your own yardstick.
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What is Truth?
by AK - Jeff inif one 'googles' the phrase, you get 167,000,000 hits!.
'bing' it, and you get 129,000,000 hits.. here is a sampling of opinion from just the first page of google hits.. 1] douglas groothuis, ph.d., teaches philosophy at denver seminary.
here is his 'take' on truth: http://www.leaderu.com/theology/groothuis-truth.html.
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The Gladiator has it right. No one really knows the truth, all are just opinions of what their reality is for them.
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CHOICE may be a mere illusion. FREE WILL a trick of the mind's ego
by Terry inthings are what they are.. everything acts according to its nature.. nothing escapes its own nature.. we cannot be other than what we are and our "choices" follow our nature.. consequently, can we not say correctly that free choice is merely our ignorance of the fact that all our actions and choices are predetermined by our nature?.
1. if you are offered either a handful of dog poop or a cold dove bar---is your "choice" really much of a choice?
2. offer a heterosexual male a night with a hot chick or a hot dude...is the outcome really "choice"?
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Snotrag
I think its more complicated than just free will. Your existence itself is due to a chemical bonding, if your fathers sperm met with a different womans egg you would not be you. So that coming into existence is really a chemical or biological action. So where does consiouness come to play to have free will? Your thoughts and emotions are chemical in nature and driven by various parts of your brain and hormone producing glands. So I think the only free will you may have is a subset of choices that exist within your biological makeup. So in that vein the question is " Is that freewill"
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Melbourne Australia weather right now....what's your weather like today and where are you?
by Witness 007 intook my dogs for a walk on a beatiful mild sunny day 24 degrees.
winter is coming soon so i cleaned our wall heater!
i have never seen snow here but our cars and lawns can frost over with cold night temps so hows your weather?.
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Its mostly sunny and should hit 64 F today, No wind, snow on the Sierra Madre. Going to be a beatiful day in Reno.
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Ok, it's the new world, you've been alive for 30 million years now and you still look 30
by gubberningbody insomeone else, on th other hand is really just 30.. then both of you get invited to a party and the group play scrabble.. won't that be a bit awkward?.
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Being 30 million years old will probably make scrabble a little boring. But say that you put that time to good use and are able to create new games such as "hide the black hole in a sack" or maybe c"apture a moon beam with a toothpick" then boredom becomes only a past time suffered by the dull. Maybe 30 million years old is considered young by the old ones.