Posts by maninthemiddle

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I couldn't lurk....

by maninthemiddle in

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i had to actully go talk to people.

lucky for me i wasn't at a meeting.. .

maninthemiddle

I had to actully go talk to people. Lucky for me I wasn't at a meeting. Sadly though, the proxy had not problem with jw.org, or watchtower.org

proxy server thinks that JWN is a cult activity.

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Does creating low self esteem in the R&F play into the hands of the GB?

by highdose in

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officaly they say that they don't want the r&f to have low self esteem, they say that low self esteem is from the devil.. .

but they create a culture that cannot help but give their r&f crippling self esteem, the constant empasis is on looking at the flaws in oneself.

"pummeling" yourself because of your sins, all the publications tell us over and over again that we are "dust" and deserve nothing.. .

maninthemiddle

They want everyone, ESPECIALLY the males, to be stripped of the capacity to question authority.

That sounds like a cult.

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Diary of an Ex-Mormon- Must see for all Jw's still on the fence.

by whereami in

hear the story of a young teenager indoctrinated into the mormon church and culture, growing to a man who would one day reject everything he'd been taught to believe.

the similarities to the jw's are uncanny.. .

stan's full story can be found in written form at:http://www.exmormon.org/whylft79.htm.

maninthemiddle

Here is the site with the many videos.

http://www.iamanexmormon.com/

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2011 DC Invitation

by LostGeneration in

couple of things i found kind of interesting.

on the front it has the wording "qualify to live in the paradise" or something to that effect.

just another weird thing that jws teach, having to "qualify" for the paradise, based on your works of course.. the back has the image of daniel with the world powers on it, the bottom has a circle with a "?

maninthemiddle

do you have link to it?

I am not seing a link or a picture in your post.

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Diary of an Ex-Mormon- Must see for all Jw's still on the fence.

by whereami in

hear the story of a young teenager indoctrinated into the mormon church and culture, growing to a man who would one day reject everything he'd been taught to believe.

the similarities to the jw's are uncanny.. .

stan's full story can be found in written form at:http://www.exmormon.org/whylft79.htm.

maninthemiddle

I always had a bad taste in my mouth for the question on the pioneer and bethel applications that asked, "do you belive that spirtual food from Jehovah is being provided through the "failthful and descreet slave"?"

After hearing him comment on his question if you accept the doctrines of the church as the word of god.....well I have a whole new perspective on the question now.

Excuse my while I go find some mouth wash.

Thank you for the video. Let mention that I have seen some other videos form the exmorman website, I found several others are also very meaningful to me.

If you are a witness on the fence, I reccomend you watch some of the others.

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Everything i knew was wrong

by StopTheTears in

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looking through the internet i learned that everything i have ever know to be true is a lie at the beginning of time god and his celestial family created the earth and the heavens.

they are the greater force and also the fallen angels that are prophesized in the bible.

they sped up the evolution in people separating them from monkeys.

maninthemiddle

I was with you until you mentioned Rock 'N' Roll. What do you have against Rock 'N' Roll? Are you saying that Country song about adultry is better than a Rock 'N' Roll song about God?

http://youtu.be/4oaOQ1cQwt4

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there are 2 classes of ex Jehovahs witnesses

by the max in

hi im part of a group of ex jh,s, we meet for drinks and dinner, go to football games.many of the guys do drugs,(i dont, i like sport) , most live very hedonistic lifestyles, lets leave it at that,(im happily married).

my point is, when i left, i was honest, and got df,d.

now im experiencing the same kind of shit that i experieced in the hall, the ex jw,s are just as judgemental, and stupid as when they were at the kingdom hall, for eg you were df,d we were not,it doesnt matter to them, that their doing coke and getting into group sex.

maninthemiddle

WontLeave: My experience and your experience couldn't be more different. MOST of the JWs that I knew and met were wonderful people.

I agree I have seen both, I think it is r epresentative of the community they are from.

I would answer this as, I don't want to be around people who would treat me in this fassion, so I wont be frinds with ex-jws that would treat me that way.

I would suggest you find some new friends that compliment the way you live your own life.

As mentioned above there is much truth in the "bad assocation" verse.

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Memorial musings

by undercover in

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things i thought about during the memorial talk last night:.

i don't know if it was just the memorial i went to or if this was across the board, but it seems that the talk was dumbed down a bit more than it had been in the past.

not that it wouldn't surprise me if was dumbed down.

maninthemiddle

explain how Adam brought sin into the world and passed it on through his DNA

I heard the same thing, but it isn't in the outline. it also isn't in the reference from the outline.

And don't you love how someone has to pass the emblems in front of the guys who just walked all around the all carrying them? I mean, if they wanted to, they could have taken a nibble or sip any time they wanted. Why all the ritual?

I also had the same thoughts while fully "in". This was getting along way away from doing something in a good "spirt" and going to rote following of rules for the sake of rules.

I have heard that there are specific directions given for how to do this, I have not read this persoanlly.

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Lead Codices Now Called Fake

by Quendi in

well, that huge sigh of relief we're hearing is from brooklyn.

evidence is mounting that the lead codices found earlier this year which depicted jesus being executed on a cross are fakes.

so jehovah's witnesses can still maintain their assertion that christ was executed on a stake and not a cross for now.