recently two elders caught my wife at the door while i was away.
they mentioned the need to talk to me about something on facebook.
yes, i know how facebook can be, but i choose to use it anyway.. the strange thing is, i just spent a alot of time looking at it, and nothing is publicly available, so unless a one spouse of an inactive jw is looking at it, i don't see how they were able to get this information.. anyway, that wasn't my real question.. i haven't been to any kh in over 2 years, i haven't seen the elder (24 year old) in about two years and don't even know the other (he is recently out of bethel, but older 50ish?)..
trueone, what you say about them thinking they have absolute truth is the reason I don't want to waste my time write any letter, or going to any meeting. i know there are thoes that hoped to make a difference by going to a JC to talk, but I don't see the point for this reason.
There is nothing you can say that they don't already have an answer to, when you have absolute truth you tune out and don't think.
I have read and I am familer with CCMC and it still amazes me so see it in action.
recently two elders caught my wife at the door while i was away.
they mentioned the need to talk to me about something on facebook.
yes, i know how facebook can be, but i choose to use it anyway.. the strange thing is, i just spent a alot of time looking at it, and nothing is publicly available, so unless a one spouse of an inactive jw is looking at it, i don't see how they were able to get this information.. anyway, that wasn't my real question.. i haven't been to any kh in over 2 years, i haven't seen the elder (24 year old) in about two years and don't even know the other (he is recently out of bethel, but older 50ish?)..
Thanks for all the replies, I appreciate it.
Leavingwt, Let's say they disfellowship you: Bravo! Badge of honor
I hadn't thought of it like that, thanks, I like it.
Sab,
I had not thought of it like that since publicly the announcement is the same, but I guess what the elderetts hear may be different and probably would get around too.
trueone, I like that, If I get cornered and have to make a reply that sounds good.
I feel that Undercover’ s approach does not define a line, and they in their misplaced sense of authority will not see it unless you clearly spell it out. However it is polite, and that is what I want.
Speaking of authority, something else to share...when they were speaking with my wife they said they called a nearby congregation and they did not know us , and they asked if we had asked anyone to move our cards. My wife was honest and said that no, we hadn't and know the local congregation still has them.
When she told me this, I had to explain the reason they wanted to know if our cards were still supposed to be on file with them, is to establish their authority. One they did that, the questioning started.
inspired by many on jwn board, my goal is to every sunday study the article and find the manipulative parts.
if you would like to join me that would be great!
we can then find them together and then find what the scriptures or insights truly means with research, our own understanding, or maybe how it should be interpreted to ones self.
Yes we don’t want to numb ourselves to what is wicked and horrible but we don’t want to be ignorant to what is out there and what we can learn from them.
And they wonder why so many of their kids explode when they leave home and enter the real world.
recently two elders caught my wife at the door while i was away.
they mentioned the need to talk to me about something on facebook.
yes, i know how facebook can be, but i choose to use it anyway.. the strange thing is, i just spent a alot of time looking at it, and nothing is publicly available, so unless a one spouse of an inactive jw is looking at it, i don't see how they were able to get this information.. anyway, that wasn't my real question.. i haven't been to any kh in over 2 years, i haven't seen the elder (24 year old) in about two years and don't even know the other (he is recently out of bethel, but older 50ish?)..
You are correct that someone had to have seen it, I would love to know who because I have no one as 'friend" anymore that is a JW execpt for one inactive one, hopefully he is not being lying to me.
Of course there is no way they would ever tell me how they found out, I just wish I knew so I could plug the hole. Oh, now that I think about it, my mother confronted me with something that was on my public profile on facebook recently, and I know that she wouldn't know how to find it herself, so someone had to have shown it to her, of course, she wouldn't say who.
Leavingwt, I have a question for you..
I don't feel that I have anything to lose if told them I wanted to DA. I know that you often say not to do that. If this comes down to the point that I WILL be Disfellowshipped, I would rather it be on my terms just so that I know what will be written on my record, but on the other had why should I care?
What is your opinion?
I guess because I feel manipulated otherwise by people who I thought were my friends. Not that i didn't expect this at some point, I have been realy careful.
recently two elders caught my wife at the door while i was away.
they mentioned the need to talk to me about something on facebook.
yes, i know how facebook can be, but i choose to use it anyway.. the strange thing is, i just spent a alot of time looking at it, and nothing is publicly available, so unless a one spouse of an inactive jw is looking at it, i don't see how they were able to get this information.. anyway, that wasn't my real question.. i haven't been to any kh in over 2 years, i haven't seen the elder (24 year old) in about two years and don't even know the other (he is recently out of bethel, but older 50ish?)..
Recently two elders caught my wife at the door while I was away. They mentioned the need to talk to me about something on facebook. Yes, I know how facebook can be, but I choose to use it anyway.
The strange thing is, I just spent a alot of time looking at it, and nothing is publicly available, so unless a one spouse of an inactive JW is looking at it, I don't see how they were able to get this information.
Anyway, that wasn't my real question.
I haven't been to any KH in over 2 years, I haven't seen the Elder (24 year old) in about two years and don't even know the other (he is recently out of bethel, but older 50ish?).
Why the effort to track me down now? I will continute to ignore them but, I have no plans on hiding anymore, my wife is free so they can do anything they want.
Maybe they will be back for more, the one that doesn't know me made some comment about me ignoring them in the past wich is not true, this is the first time they have ever asked to speak with me, so either the gossip mill is already running or they are laying the ground work for a smear campain.
Funny sidenote, while they stand there asking about facebook they ignored the (Holiday) wreath with lights on it hanging on the door.
now that my eyes have been completely open to the total falsehood of the jw's i just cant sit thru another meeting and hear some of the most craziest statements without an absolutely crazy look on my face... so to spite my mother who hates that i dont listen to anything they have to say from the podium, i took notes.....haha notes of all the insane staments i heard.
public talk.
"young people are pulled away (from the lie) by mountain climbing, volcanoe's and skydiving" .
EDIT to say: Here is one way volcano's can mislead people.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/hs0wrw
(this is a PDF I put together)
i was watching "the nostradamus effect" episode - "doomsday hieroglyphs" the other day.
i was shocked when they began speaking about (no names mentioned) of those who believed that measurements of the giza pyramid to predict the end of the world.
they showed charts and how that scenario hit 1914 to a certain part, then the entire measurements end at september of 2011. .
iv been getting on with my life and im enjoying it!
hope you are all doing well and happy!
timmy.
Good to hear! *waves*
Doing Great here.
remember hearing that at the meetings?
i find it ironic that the same can be said for ex-jw's.
wish they'd say that at the meetings!.
One could indeed parachute into almost any country and received food and shelter from virtual strangers.
That is because they don't have to worry about you having differeing opinions or beliefs. (remember, no harboring priviate thoughts)
I understand not wanting conflicts, so I still have a hard time making friends and finding common ground, but how boring the conversations are in most "gatherings" among "the friends", all they talked about was how good the last watchtower article was because you are not allow to disagree or to really discuss it.
remember hearing that at the meetings?
i find it ironic that the same can be said for ex-jw's.
wish they'd say that at the meetings!.
That really does sound like me in school, and after school. I'm trying to fix that now.
