Posts by maninthemiddle

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2010 Circuit Assembly..........Sunday Program nonsense and madness.

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

i went to the sunday circuit assembly and came back all riled up with all the nonsense.. the sunday program was on ''safeguarding your spirituality''.

''it is better to remain single and not marry.

that gives you more time for studying and the preaching work.

maninthemiddle

Headquarters is FULL of dr's, lawyers, engineers, computer designers, chefs, hairdressers, dentists, etc - they didn't WALK in the door with no education. did they??? So it's ok for THEM to benefit from an education - but the rest of us can't?

Damn right it's OK for them, they are needed.

Maybe someone who was at bethel could answer this for me.

I was pushed to go to bethel like many here, but I swore that if I couldn't go to college then I wasn't going to bethel. I knew at the time that they had plenty of educated ones at bethel, I also knew many people that were highly skilled in something that got put to work cleaning or doing laundury. Now I am not to good to do anything, but I these pople spent their entire bethel career doing menial labor while their skills stagnated. Why does this happen? Did they not kiss anough ass?

I remember being told that these skilled people went to college before "learning the truth"; I highly doubted everyone did.

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2010 Circuit Assembly..........Sunday Program nonsense and madness.

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

i went to the sunday circuit assembly and came back all riled up with all the nonsense.. the sunday program was on ''safeguarding your spirituality''.

''it is better to remain single and not marry.

that gives you more time for studying and the preaching work.

maninthemiddle

I knew I wasn't going to college so I didn't have to worry about grade point averages or SATs. To be quite I honest, I really didn't give a fuck about high school or my grades. I just wanted out.

I had a similer attitude. What else do you expect when your parents and every adult in your life is telling you will probably never finish school.

I wanted so much more out of school but it was never an option for me, at least never an option I new how to take hold of myself.

The few adults I was friends with in and around high school age, every time we talked they said how little time is left and they couldn't wait, this sytem can't last ,etc,etc.

This kind of attitude, especaily from your parents, really warps your outlook on life.

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Something i've never understood, perhaps you could answer for me?

by highdose in

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i have never understood how adults that have had a life in the normal world could be brainwashed into this cult?

ok i know it dosn't happen very often, about 1 in every 10 years in my experiance.

but it dos happen all the same?.

maninthemiddle

As Elsewhere said, ones that I know had something traumatic in their life. Usually the death of a family member, or a falling out with their church or church leadership.

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Twister (the game)

by Mickey mouse in

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when i was a teenager, twister was a popular game http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/twister_(game).

we had a couple of elders who used to bang on and on about how bad it was in local needs talks.

they seemed convinced that if a group of young people were playing twister, it was bound to descend into a mass orgy.

maninthemiddle

Raised out side the JWs, my father said Twister was purely for sex parties, and had no other purpose. I don't remember others opinions.

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1 Thessalonians 5:2,3 - General Statement or Powerful Prophecy?

by lepermessiah in

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after reading the posts regarding the "special" .

i remember growing up as a kid in the reagan 80's waiting for the ussr to nuke the usa, or vice-versa.

then, with glasnost and perestroika, so many jw's thought the long awaited cry of "peace and security" was imminent!

maninthemiddle

Misery,

It is interesting you bring this up, I have been having much the same feelings lately. Check this link out, I can't say I completely agree with it but I do find it very interesting.

I still feel the more I read the bible the less I feel it has any meaning for us.

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What would this religion look like if.....Revelation was never included?

by maninthemiddle in

since it is the largerst contributer to the "7 times" and to the 144k.

this would of couse wipe out 1914 and 1919.. since the wts like to use bible imagery to apply to them selves and modern times, that would basically just leave jesus' words and paul's and others letters .

(daniel too).

maninthemiddle

Good point, Teel.

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What would this religion look like if.....Revelation was never included?

by maninthemiddle in

since it is the largerst contributer to the "7 times" and to the 144k.

this would of couse wipe out 1914 and 1919.. since the wts like to use bible imagery to apply to them selves and modern times, that would basically just leave jesus' words and paul's and others letters .

(daniel too).

maninthemiddle

I believe the fact that you can tie every major/false doctrine of the JWs to the Book Of Revelation is more proof that the the Book Of Revelation isn't inspired

You said what I was trying to say better than I did.

I guess that even if it wansn't there then they would find something else to mke up.

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What type of "Society" do you live in?

by kzjw in

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from the perspective of your local kh heirachy, what role does the wtbs play in your real life?

i come to this site as the spouse is a witness, curious to find the answers as to why bible-based babble from the wt can be taken as the truth.

but then i look at the jws my spouse likes and know in my heart that they arent bad people - in fact save one, most i actually like too.

maninthemiddle

Most Jws don't know the history or care about it. They, like a lot of people are just looking for something better, or are missing something spirtual in their life. She sounds very much like my wife. She lets her concience guide her more than the marketing materials from NY.

Like any group in life there are good and bad. I have really met only a couple of JWs that I truly hate. Almost all I know or have known are very loving people, and all let NY tell them how to ack to varying degrees.

My mother on the other hand is strongly guided by the pages of the watchower, and I feel that no matter how stupid it gets, she wouldn't notice or care. This bothers me more becuause were I ever to be DFd then I don't belive she could see past the Watchtower to care how I really felt, or that my behaviour is in line with real bible standards, even though not WTS standards.

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Just recommending a book

by dgp in

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"prisons we choose to live inside", by doris lessing.

try to check out the chapter "you are damned, we are saved".. http://www.amazon.com/reader/0060390778?_encoding=utf8&token=pmlhksh6xdnpzxbp%2fjj7rc1xykgbctiwbg0vi174ecfvde5i%20xgdcq%3d%3d&query=17&page=30#reader_0060390778>7a>.

"i was brought up in a country where a small white minority dominated the black majority.

maninthemiddle

Marked for later, this sounds very intersting, thank you.

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What would this religion look like if.....Revelation was never included?

by maninthemiddle in

since it is the largerst contributer to the "7 times" and to the 144k.

this would of couse wipe out 1914 and 1919.. since the wts like to use bible imagery to apply to them selves and modern times, that would basically just leave jesus' words and paul's and others letters .

(daniel too).

maninthemiddle

Since it is the largerst contributer to the "7 times" and to the 144k. This would of couse wipe out 1914 and 1919.

Since the WTS like to use bible imagery to apply to them selves and modern times, that would basically just leave Jesus' words and Paul's and others letters . (Daniel too)

This would also seriously put a dent in the paradise (earth) and great crowd doctrins also. When it comes to trying to explain Revelation much prefer the "I don't Know" answer.

I ask this mainly becuase I think that would put them closer to other mainstream religions, even though none that I know of throw out Revelation, most don't try to make up meanings for it's writings.

What do you think?

And can you think of any other "What ifs"?