Who else could Jesus be talking about apart from the JW's?
How about every organized religion using his name?
Are there any out there that don't claim you can be saved apart from them?
maninthemiddle
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What would Jesus Christ say if he returned today?
by James_Slash inthis was always one of the main justifications for me in leaving the wt behind.
i was just wondering how many of you have ever reasoned in the same way.. i have often wondered how jesus christ would react if he came back to the earth now and how he would view the organisation who claim to represent his standards?.
would jesus really want to be associated with paedophilia, false prophecies, shunning, the destruction of families, lies, untruths, hypocritical leaders and the lack of love amongst members?.
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2010 Circuit Assembly..........Sunday Program nonsense and madness.
by RULES & REGULATIONS ini went to the sunday circuit assembly and came back all riled up with all the nonsense.. the sunday program was on ''safeguarding your spirituality''.
''it is better to remain single and not marry.
that gives you more time for studying and the preaching work.
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2010 Circuit Assembly..........Sunday Program nonsense and madness.
by RULES & REGULATIONS ini went to the sunday circuit assembly and came back all riled up with all the nonsense.. the sunday program was on ''safeguarding your spirituality''.
''it is better to remain single and not marry.
that gives you more time for studying and the preaching work.
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maninthemiddle
Headquarters is FULL of dr's, lawyers, engineers, computer designers, chefs, hairdressers, dentists, etc - they didn't WALK in the door with no education. did they??? So it's ok for THEM to benefit from an education - but the rest of us can't?
Damn right it's OK for them, they are needed.
Maybe someone who was at bethel could answer this for me.
I was pushed to go to bethel like many here, but I swore that if I couldn't go to college then I wasn't going to bethel. I knew at the time that they had plenty of educated ones at bethel, I also knew many people that were highly skilled in something that got put to work cleaning or doing laundury. Now I am not to good to do anything, but I these pople spent their entire bethel career doing menial labor while their skills stagnated. Why does this happen? Did they not kiss anough ass?
I remember being told that these skilled people went to college before "learning the truth"; I highly doubted everyone did.
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2010 Circuit Assembly..........Sunday Program nonsense and madness.
by RULES & REGULATIONS ini went to the sunday circuit assembly and came back all riled up with all the nonsense.. the sunday program was on ''safeguarding your spirituality''.
''it is better to remain single and not marry.
that gives you more time for studying and the preaching work.
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maninthemiddle
I knew I wasn't going to college so I didn't have to worry about grade point averages or SATs. To be quite I honest, I really didn't give a fuck about high school or my grades. I just wanted out.
I had a similer attitude. What else do you expect when your parents and every adult in your life is telling you will probably never finish school.
I wanted so much more out of school but it was never an option for me, at least never an option I new how to take hold of myself.
The few adults I was friends with in and around high school age, every time we talked they said how little time is left and they couldn't wait, this sytem can't last ,etc,etc.
This kind of attitude, especaily from your parents, really warps your outlook on life.
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Something i've never understood, perhaps you could answer for me?
by highdose ini have never understood how adults that have had a life in the normal world could be brainwashed into this cult?
ok i know it dosn't happen very often, about 1 in every 10 years in my experiance.
but it dos happen all the same?.
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maninthemiddle
As Elsewhere said, ones that I know had something traumatic in their life. Usually the death of a family member, or a falling out with their church or church leadership.
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Twister (the game)
by Mickey mouse inwhen i was a teenager, twister was a popular game http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/twister_(game).
we had a couple of elders who used to bang on and on about how bad it was in local needs talks.
they seemed convinced that if a group of young people were playing twister, it was bound to descend into a mass orgy.
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maninthemiddle
Raised out side the JWs, my father said Twister was purely for sex parties, and had no other purpose. I don't remember others opinions.
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1 Thessalonians 5:2,3 - General Statement or Powerful Prophecy?
by lepermessiah inafter reading the posts regarding the "special" .
i remember growing up as a kid in the reagan 80's waiting for the ussr to nuke the usa, or vice-versa.
then, with glasnost and perestroika, so many jw's thought the long awaited cry of "peace and security" was imminent!
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maninthemiddle
Misery,
It is interesting you bring this up, I have been having much the same feelings lately. Check this link out, I can't say I completely agree with it but I do find it very interesting.
I still feel the more I read the bible the less I feel it has any meaning for us.
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What would this religion look like if.....Revelation was never included?
by maninthemiddle insince it is the largerst contributer to the "7 times" and to the 144k.
this would of couse wipe out 1914 and 1919.. since the wts like to use bible imagery to apply to them selves and modern times, that would basically just leave jesus' words and paul's and others letters .
(daniel too).
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maninthemiddle
Good point, Teel.
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What would this religion look like if.....Revelation was never included?
by maninthemiddle insince it is the largerst contributer to the "7 times" and to the 144k.
this would of couse wipe out 1914 and 1919.. since the wts like to use bible imagery to apply to them selves and modern times, that would basically just leave jesus' words and paul's and others letters .
(daniel too).
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maninthemiddle
I believe the fact that you can tie every major/false doctrine of the JWs to the Book Of Revelation is more proof that the the Book Of Revelation isn't inspired
You said what I was trying to say better than I did.
I guess that even if it wansn't there then they would find something else to mke up.
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What type of "Society" do you live in?
by kzjw infrom the perspective of your local kh heirachy, what role does the wtbs play in your real life?
i come to this site as the spouse is a witness, curious to find the answers as to why bible-based babble from the wt can be taken as the truth.
but then i look at the jws my spouse likes and know in my heart that they arent bad people - in fact save one, most i actually like too.
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maninthemiddle
Most Jws don't know the history or care about it. They, like a lot of people are just looking for something better, or are missing something spirtual in their life. She sounds very much like my wife. She lets her concience guide her more than the marketing materials from NY.
Like any group in life there are good and bad. I have really met only a couple of JWs that I truly hate. Almost all I know or have known are very loving people, and all let NY tell them how to ack to varying degrees.
My mother on the other hand is strongly guided by the pages of the watchower, and I feel that no matter how stupid it gets, she wouldn't notice or care. This bothers me more becuause were I ever to be DFd then I don't belive she could see past the Watchtower to care how I really felt, or that my behaviour is in line with real bible standards, even though not WTS standards.