Posts by maninthemiddle

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Introducing Mrs Cedars...

by cedars in

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i just thought you should know that mrs cedars has finally taken the plunge and joined the forum.

she was able to log on for the first time yesterday.. though we both "awakened" at different stages, mrs cedars was very supportive and non-judgmental when i first began exploring my beliefs from a critical standpoint.

she is currently in the process of reading crisis of conscience and aquainting herself with some of the facts of witness history that were hitherto unknown.

maninthemiddle

Welcome. We sure do like Mr Ceders around here, glad to have you here also.

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Question about reporting fellow JWs.

by maninthemiddle in

i have searched but not found an answer yet.

does anyone remember what scriptures they base reporting another person's "wrongdoing" to the elders?.

i put "wrongdoing" in quotes so i could user their term and you could be reported for anything.. i know they have used the scripture about going to the person first, that is rarely followed, i know it is common practice to tell on eachother, i just can't remember if they even pretend to make it scriptual.. thanks.

maninthemiddle

The WTS does not use Matthew 18 in regard to "sins" they consider worthy of df'ing...that is considered under the authority of the elders. They consider Matthew 18 to be problems between individuals.

That makes sense. Thanks.

Blindnomore.

I appreciate that. I am aware of the game. I am looking for for a reply to someone who I think is ratting on me.

datadog, recently a friend was asked to meet with the elders, but her husband i was supposed to come along. Just stupid.

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Question about reporting fellow JWs.

by maninthemiddle in

i have searched but not found an answer yet.

does anyone remember what scriptures they base reporting another person's "wrongdoing" to the elders?.

i put "wrongdoing" in quotes so i could user their term and you could be reported for anything.. i know they have used the scripture about going to the person first, that is rarely followed, i know it is common practice to tell on eachother, i just can't remember if they even pretend to make it scriptual.. thanks.

maninthemiddle

Thanks Bobcat. I had read barnes but I'm glad to see the others too.

Leviticus 5 is all about the guillt offering. nothing in the context can apply it in the way the WTS does.

It even reads to me like that verse may have been added on to the orgional writings. it just deosn't seem to fit the rest.

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Question about reporting fellow JWs.

by maninthemiddle in

i have searched but not found an answer yet.

does anyone remember what scriptures they base reporting another person's "wrongdoing" to the elders?.

i put "wrongdoing" in quotes so i could user their term and you could be reported for anything.. i know they have used the scripture about going to the person first, that is rarely followed, i know it is common practice to tell on eachother, i just can't remember if they even pretend to make it scriptual.. thanks.

maninthemiddle

YES!, Thank you Matthew was what I was looking for. Notably it says first go to the person, then it says go to the congreation, not simply to the "older men" or "elders".

Odd isn't it that that scrip isn't enven used at all in the pargagraphs that Blondie posted.

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Question about reporting fellow JWs.

by maninthemiddle in

i have searched but not found an answer yet.

does anyone remember what scriptures they base reporting another person's "wrongdoing" to the elders?.

i put "wrongdoing" in quotes so i could user their term and you could be reported for anything.. i know they have used the scripture about going to the person first, that is rarely followed, i know it is common practice to tell on eachother, i just can't remember if they even pretend to make it scriptual.. thanks.

maninthemiddle

Blondie, thanks for looking those up. As I suspected even though there are many scriptures listed none really apply. For an example I looked up the "presue Peace" article (the WOL is handy) and found that there really is no scriptual basis.

James 14 Is there anyone sick among YOU ? + Let him call the older men *+ of the congregation to [him], and let them pray over him, greasing [him] with oil + in the name of Jehovah. * 15 And the prayer of faith will make the indisposed one well, *+ and Jehovah * will raise him up. + Also, if he has committed sins, it will be forgiven him. +

1cor 9 What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? + Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, + nor idolaters, + nor adulterers, *+ nor men kept for unnatural purposes, + nor men who lie with men, *

Jeams 3:17 17 But the wisdom + from above is first of all chaste, + then peaceable, + reasonable, *+ ready to obey, full of mercy and good fruits, + not making partial distinctions, + not hypocritical. + 1

In context this scripture sounds more like being charged to not swear falsely under oath.

Blondie, Could you explain what this means?

Actually Lev. 5:1 is the scripture used a great deal considering it was applicable to the Jews.

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Question about reporting fellow JWs.

by maninthemiddle in

i have searched but not found an answer yet.

does anyone remember what scriptures they base reporting another person's "wrongdoing" to the elders?.

i put "wrongdoing" in quotes so i could user their term and you could be reported for anything.. i know they have used the scripture about going to the person first, that is rarely followed, i know it is common practice to tell on eachother, i just can't remember if they even pretend to make it scriptual.. thanks.

maninthemiddle

I found a mention, or course it is in Leviticus. This is from the YPA book. Not a place I had previously thought of looking.

Leviticus 5:1 . “‘Now in case a soul + sins in that he has heard public cursing *+ and he is a witness or he has seen it or has come to know of it, if he does not report + it, then he must answer for his error.

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Question about reporting fellow JWs.

by maninthemiddle in

i have searched but not found an answer yet.

does anyone remember what scriptures they base reporting another person's "wrongdoing" to the elders?.

i put "wrongdoing" in quotes so i could user their term and you could be reported for anything.. i know they have used the scripture about going to the person first, that is rarely followed, i know it is common practice to tell on eachother, i just can't remember if they even pretend to make it scriptual.. thanks.

maninthemiddle

I have searched but not found an answer yet.

Does anyone remember what scriptures they base reporting another person's "wrongdoing" to the elders?

I put "wrongdoing" in quotes so i could user their term and you could be reported for anything.

I know they have used the scripture about going to the person first, that is rarely followed, I know it is common practice to tell on eachother, I just can't remember if they even pretend to make it scriptual.

Thanks

MM

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I haven't logged on in 5 years!

by Schism in

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maninthemiddle

Congratulations on remembering your password. That is impressive.

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Have a new friend, turns out that she was recently DF'd

by TweetieBird in

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i live in an apartment community and several of us like to hang out at the pool and cook out.

this girl that i've known for a couple of months was talking with my husband and me the other day about sex and marriage.

she's going through a divorce and said that she doesn't believe in pre-marital sex.

maninthemiddle

I stopped believing it was the truth and it was easy

Good Answer!

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Credit card machines at district conventions

by OneDayillBeFree in

so it's true they are real.

i never thought i'd see the day when the org.

would be so desperate for money that they would do this.

maninthemiddle

00DAD, that is from an Assembly Hall.