This isn't a topic about replacing paganism. It's about Christianity.
Looking at the map, the most violent places seem to be hotbeds of islam and whatever they do in Africa.
that's right, nothing.. you get struck on the cheek and you pony up for the other slap.. your pray for the enemy who wants you face down in the mud with his heel on your neck.. you get treated like pond scum and force a smile and forgive.. abused?
forgive and forget.. need help desperately?
when nothing happens, chalk it up to your unworthiness and lack of faith.. .
This isn't a topic about replacing paganism. It's about Christianity.
Looking at the map, the most violent places seem to be hotbeds of islam and whatever they do in Africa.
i remember seeing a documentary a while ago about how legally, corporations are a 'person' and as such demonstrate a psychopathic personality.. the author of the book it was based on profiled criminal psychopaths and corporations and found them to be of the same mentality and motive of operation.. anyone else remember this?.
i feel it goes a long way to demonstrate why the watchtower corporation(s) has become the monster it is and why acts as it does, why it matters not what any individual or group thinks and why it will stomp on people to stay in its power.. the articals are pretty long but the links should start you off!.
i am really interested to know what others think.... http://www.cqs.com/psycho.htm.
I used to work for a man who was fond of saying, "The only thing that matters to me is how much money I can make today."
It was like he wasn't human. The only thing that mattered in his pursuit of wealth was whether something was legal.
But he had no more concern for customers or the people worked for him than I have for cock roaches.
The only thing that mattered was whether they could contribute to his bottom line.
And that's what corporations are in business to do. They have no conscience. They only have Mission Statements that give
lip service to all but major shareholders and that have nothing to do with what's best for employees.
That's why they've got "Human Resourse Depts." I think they ought to be called "Human Tool Depts,"
But that wouldn't go down very well. They have to act like "We Care."
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/similar-religions-to-jehovahs-witnesses.php .
"it is important to understand that in most bible-based cults, although the member is aggressively taught doctrine, it is not the doctrine that holds him in the group.
it is the sense that the group is god's true people, a feeling cultivated by techniques of mind control.
I'm not sure what the point of this thread is except that there are many groups who consider themselves exclusive. But there's a statement in the Declaration of Independence that states that established governments derive their power from the consent of those being governed. That is an absolute. People who feel that there is some benefit to their governance continue to go along with the abuses and hypocrisy until it reaches a point where they rebel. And there's not a dub who doesn't see it. But since organized opposition within jwland is impossible, that in itself is the defining evidence of its control and cult status as any opposition to official positions, stated or not, is ruthlessly eliminated. So thinking of some kind of reform is wishful thinking. It has to be destroyed in order to break the mental control of the "trojan horse" virus. But as long as they keep their numbers up - I agree that engaging them in Biblical issues is futile, because their understanding imposed by the trojan horse trumps reality. The only thing that can change it is a reboot of the individual's brain. But it's impossible at a group level any more than prison riots meet with long term success. Once someone has escaped, or if they want to be like a runaway slave they can be helped via the internet underground railroad. Just my two cents.
that's right, nothing.. you get struck on the cheek and you pony up for the other slap.. your pray for the enemy who wants you face down in the mud with his heel on your neck.. you get treated like pond scum and force a smile and forgive.. abused?
forgive and forget.. need help desperately?
when nothing happens, chalk it up to your unworthiness and lack of faith.. .
No I didn't wander into the wrong topic. I knew it would take a little mental flexibility - but the point is - what is going to happen to western civilization when Christianity has been replaced - by muslim and libertarian/liberally enlightened philosophies that choose a morality of their own liking that needn't feel bothered by anything called a conscience which Christianity and the Bible have upheld and taught about the consequences for it's wilfull violation on personal and cultural levels, with one example after another. And the decent to those depths of depraviity that result from not having a biblically trained Christian conscience is in free fall. And the end of the road is completely predictable from the pages of Scripture.
Col 2:8 "Take heed lest there shall be any one that maketh spoil of you through his philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ:" ASV
that's right, nothing.. you get struck on the cheek and you pony up for the other slap.. your pray for the enemy who wants you face down in the mud with his heel on your neck.. you get treated like pond scum and force a smile and forgive.. abused?
forgive and forget.. need help desperately?
when nothing happens, chalk it up to your unworthiness and lack of faith.. .
Why conservatives are abandoning the 'gay' issue
Posted: August 17, 2010
1:00 am Eastern
© 2010 WorldNetDaily
"Do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?" – 1 Corinthians 6:19 NKJV
Sex is sacred.
For millennia, this biblical principle was the bedrock moral value of the Western World.
The mysterious portal through which human beings enter this world, sex was to be reserved exclusively for a man and a woman joined permanently by marriage vows, and all other forms and circumstances of sexual expression were forbidden – locked away, as it were, in a sort of Pandora’s Box, heavily guarded by the sentinels of Judeo-Christian Civilization. Confining sex to marriage was universally seen as essential to strong marital unions and secure families, and thus to the very fabric of civilization itself.
However, this strict but divinely inspired and life-protecting moral code – after enabling century after century of dazzling societal evolution in the Western world – has unraveled in our own lifetimes.
The change first emerged into stark public view during the 1960s under the banner of "sexual liberation" and "gay liberation." While the public was distracted by colorful spectacles of youthful rebellion, psychedelic drug use and the rock "invasion," just below the surface a full-bore assault on Western institutions and values – particularly traditional sexual morality – was taking place.
As I show in "How Evil Works," the well-documented leftist infiltration and subversion of virtually all of America's institutions during the last two to three generations has included, front and center, the sabotage of traditional morality and religion. After all, from the Marxist perspective, if you're serious about transforming America – from a land of limited government and individual liberty rooted in a transcendent, faith-based moral code to a population of compliant, needy people dependent on a god-like government – you simply must separate the population from Judeo-Christian values and morality. As John Adams put it: "It is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand."
Today, a half-century after the tumultuous '60s, what began then has evolved to heights and depths of sexual anarchy and depravity simply unimaginable to previous generations. It's as though some of us sneaked up to Pandora's Box, killed or seduced the guards, broke the locks, opened the box wide and blew up the lid. And the sexual genie, once restrained but now liberated, has penetrated virtually all areas of life and conjured up an ongoing societal transformation.
Find out how corruption and tyranny are being packaged, perfumed and gift-wrapped – and sold to Americans as though they were wonderful! Read David Kupelian's culture-war classic "The Marketing of Evil" and his just-released sequel, "How Evil Works."
We've progressed way beyond free sex. News reports today showcase an epidemic of school teachers having sex with their underage students, teen "sexting" and rampant middle-school "hookups," transgenders marching in parades proudly displaying their surgically mutilated bodies, and ever-increasing tolerance of adult-child sex.
Perhaps most troubling – at least in terms of its potential to shred the fabric of Judeo-Christian civilization – is so-called "same-sex marriage." The God-ordained union of man and woman, the wellbeing of children (who need both father and mother), the soundness of the family as the basic "cell" of a strong and healthy body politic – all this vanishes when the sacredness of marriage is violated and mocked.
As I will shortly explain, if same-sex marriage becomes the law of the land, moral confusion will dominate our culture, polygamy and other aberrant forms of "marriage" will quickly follow, traditional Christianity will be essentially criminalized, and much more. In a word, America will become unrecognizable............."
Column continues - http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=192221
....for me that is..... i've had enough of being shunned by almost everyone on this board, just because i am different and i am not american or canadian!.
to whoever is in charge here, just "destroy" my membership from this forum.. no one takes me serious and no one believes anything i say here.. i have realised that once one becomes a jw, they remain so until their death, hence the shunning and discrimination that rules this board.. to those who understood my sense of humor here, i say goodbye to ya'll niggas.. i'll see you in hell!.
watch this space, maybe i'll come back in a different name and style(invisibly, just like jesus christ in 1914).. look out for signs of my presence.. agbm from africa, out!!!!!
"Love your enemies" - They'll tell you things your friends won't
any of the rhetoric, demands, conciliation, etc., etc., remind you of anything?
wasn't this all how this war started in iraq?
(or the justification for it, anyway?
July 1, 2010
Dispatches From the Edge
Guns of August in the Middle East?
By CONN HALLINAN
Crazy talk about the Middle East seems to be escalating, backed up by some pretty ominous military deployments. First, the department of scary statements:
First up, Shabtai Shavit, former chief of the Israeli spy agency Mossad, speaking June 21 at Bar Ilan University, Tel Aviv on why Israel should launch a pre-emptive strike at Iran: “I am of the opinion that, since there is an ongoing war, since the threat is permanent, since the intention of the enemy in this case is to annihilate you, the right doctrine is one of presumption and not retaliation.”
Second up, Uzi Arad, Israeli prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s national security advisor, speaking before the Jewish Agency in Jerusalem June 22 on his belief that the “international community” would support an Israeli strike at Iran” “I don’t see anyone who questions the legality of this or the legitimacy.”
Third up......The rhetoric is getting steamy, the weapons are moving into position, and it is beginning to feel like “The Guns of August” in the Middle East......
http://www.counterpunch.org/hallinan07012010.html
George Will: Israel Poised to Strike Iran
Monday, 16 Aug 2010 09:43 AM
By: George Will
"When Israel declared independence in 1948, it had to use mostly small arms to repel attacks by six Arab armies. Today, however, Israel feels, and is, more menaced than it was then, or has been since. Hence the potentially world-shaking decision that will be made here, probably within two years.
To understand the man who will make it, begin with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's belief that stopping Iran's nuclear weapons program is integral to stopping the worldwide campaign to reverse 1948. It is, he says, a campaign to "put the Jew back to the status of a being that couldn't defend himself — a perfect victim." Today's Middle East, he says, reflects two developments. One is the rise of Iran and militant Islam since the 1979 revolution, which led to al-Qaida, Hamas, and Hezbollah. The other development is the multiplying threat of missile warfare.
Now Israel faces a third threat, the campaign to delegitimize it in order to extinguish its capacity for self-defense..............."
so at work we had an middle eastern family get alittle upset due to a long wait, i think their culture tends to raise their voice a bit, their child was sick and they were worried, waiting for medicine.
while calming them down, one of the staff ladies is jumping in from behind under-cutting my calming speech with her interference....i asked her to back off.. well the women i work with did not like me "reasoning" with them witness style, oh no!
they wanted me to throw the mum, dad, child, mother in-law, out on their ass.
Obey or rebel - that is the question.
so at work we had an middle eastern family get alittle upset due to a long wait, i think their culture tends to raise their voice a bit, their child was sick and they were worried, waiting for medicine.
while calming them down, one of the staff ladies is jumping in from behind under-cutting my calming speech with her interference....i asked her to back off.. well the women i work with did not like me "reasoning" with them witness style, oh no!
they wanted me to throw the mum, dad, child, mother in-law, out on their ass.
guys - I know you're not going to understand this,
but there's this woman who keeps telling me how financially challenged she is, but she's not and I am
and we both know it. so what's the translation?
Is she weighing the trade off of giving up everything for love?
And she talks too damn much, but ceases when I say to.
very interesting article in the huffington post.. 10 spiritually transmitted diseasesmariana caplan, ph.d.. june 15, 2010 08:00 am.
it is a jungle out there, and it is no less true about spiritual life than any other aspect of life.
do we really think that just because someone has been meditating for five years, or doing 10 years of yoga practice, that they will be any less neurotic than the next person?
"We define self-deception as not knowing - and resisting the possibility - that one has a problem."
http://www.arbinger.com/en/home.html
http://helpingpsychology.com/?s=self+deception