Did you never read Gen 24?
67 "And Isaac led her into his mother Sarah's tent; and he took Rebecca, and she became his wife, and he fell in love with her."
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nextdoorgirl - what if I said that I would care for you and keep you secure. In exchange I would demand total obedience and fidelity and loyalty? Would you go all in?
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2012: A drastic change in the weather forecast.
by BurnTheShips inthe end of the world as we know it set to pink floyd.. somehow it doesn't seem so bad, that way.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zvcumeohpw.
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Nasa warns solar flares from 'huge space storm' will cause devastation - Telegraph.co.uk
"Britain could face widespread power blackouts and be left without critical communication signals for long periods of time, after the earth is hit by a once-in-a-generation “space storm”, Nasa has warned. National power grids could overheat and air travel severely disrupted while electronic items, navigation devices and major satellites could stop working after the Sun reaches its maximum power in a few years.
Senior space agency scientists believe the Earth will be hit with unprecedented levels of magnetic energy from solar flares after the Sun wakes “from a deep slumber” sometime around 2013, The Daily Telegraph can disclose. In a new warning, Nasa said the super storm would hit like “a bolt of lightning” and could cause catastrophic consequences for the world’s health, emergency services and national security unless precautions are taken.
Scientists believe it could damage everything from emergency services’ systems, hospital equipment, banking systems and air traffic control devices, through to “everyday” items such as home computers, iPods and Sat Navs. Due to humans’ heavy reliance on electronic devices, which are sensitive to magnetic energy, the storm could leave a multi-billion pound damage bill and “potentially devastating” problems for governments.
“We know it is coming but we don’t know how bad it is going to be,” Dr Richard Fisher, the director of Nasa's Heliophysics division, said in an interview with The Daily Telegraph......."
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I remember years ago reading about slavery that exists today....primarily in the Middle East. A reporter - I think it was Newsweek actually found a slave to interview. The reporter was biased in their opinion of slavery to which the slave replied, "Perhaps you can tell me the difference between a well fed slave and a starving free man."
Same goes for women - it's the natural desire to be kept and cared for. But in this world it doesn't work so well.
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Our Southern Friends- Are you Pissed about the Oil Spill? I Know I Am ...... !
by flipper in......... and i live out here in northern california !
i mean , they go to all that humungous labor, build a huge box to put over the oil gushing out and wham 5,000 ft. deep it gets clogged with ice crystals.
now they are talking about a couple other alternatives in the news- all the while today haliburton, bp, and other reps are meeting with federal officials getting into a pissing match and fight over who is responsible for the spill ?
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BP and the Clintons
ROCKFELLER & STANDARD OIL & HOW IT TURNED INTO BP, ROCKEFELLER OF ARKANSAS, AND CLINTONS' MISDEEDS IN ARKANSAS ...
by Maralela , Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 20:06
According to the following, Rockefellers must be the ultimate owners of BP. Add to this the money scandels and reports of murder connected to the Clintons in Arkansas. (If you don't have time to read all my post, do note the parts I put in yellow.)
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You probably think most of what I said here doesn't make sense. How could Rockefeller's Standard Oil be doing all that? You probably think, wait a minute, where is Standard Oil? I never even hear about them anymore. Does it still exist? Yes. In the Wednesday January 27, 1988, Wall Street Journal, in a full two-page double-truck ad, it was announced that little Standard Oil was merging with big brother British Petroleum. Could this be true? British Petroleum then had very few productive holdings compared to Standard Oil which controlled much of the world market.The scheme was, when they announced the merger, actually finally a Standard Oil buyout of British Petroleum, the name of the new merged company was BP-America. In other words, BP is Standard Oil. Standard Oil simply took over the assets and the name of British Petroleum. The name was chosen to hide that fact. Seemingly, all fears and worries about the world-wide predatory marketing practices of Standard Oil have now been allayed and put to rest -- since the name Standard Oil is never mentioned again.
In the last 12 years, during a period of many large companies merging, such as AOL-Time-Warner, etc., BP-America has also merged again and again and changed its name. It is now known as BP-AMOCO but it has in fact bought up, merged with, or controls all of the old Standard Oil "mini-companies" which came from the original breakup by the US government way back in 1911.
Thus, John D. Rockefeller's vow of recombining his original Standard Oil Company has been accomplished, even though it was done by his grandsons and their progeny. BP-AMOCO recently took over control of the Alaska Pipeline. There may appear to be several companies like Texaco or Mobil all drilling on the north slope of Alaska, but it's John D's offspring who now control the price at the spigot in Valdez Harbor. And of course, it's that spigot which is at the end of a very long pipeline stretching all the way to the world's largest oil source in southern Russia. The Empire of Energy now seemed to only have one obstacle left in its way.
End of Chapter Two
http://www.brojon.org/frontpage/bj050701-2.html
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(a snip from "Chapter Three")
The whole 20 year Viet Nam “war” from 1955 to 1975 was an oil scam. And all during the "war," Vietnamese General Giap fought the Americans with weapons he got from Laurence for a dollar. Did you ever wonder why the US, despite, greatly superior weapons, and the loss of 57,000 Americans and half a million Vietnamese, never won the "war?" Ever wonder why the US President issued such strange “rules of engagement” for the American troops that made sure they didn’t win? Ever wonder why Henry Kissinger, a personal assistant to Nelson Rockefeller spent so much time in the Viet Nam/Paris Peace talks which never went anywhere but simply dragged on for years.
http://www.brojon.org/frontpage/bj050701-3.html
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(snips from "Chapter Four")
In the early days of the discovery of large oil fields, the first being in Arkansas, followed quickly by discoveries in Texas and California, all three of those states were swiftly made "safe" for the oil business. All of the candidates for legislators and governors were bribed with handsome political campaign war chests filled brimming with oil profits. In those three states the only way to get into state office was to buddy up with the oil companies and then make sure all the laws you passed were kindly to your benefactors.
Thus Arkansas, Texas and California have been "Oil Company States" since about 1920. Did you notice in the last 21 years, all the Presidents of the US were governors or senators from Arkansas, Texas or California? And before that, "Viet Nam War" Johnson was a Texas oilman, and "Viet Nam War" Nixon was a California oil senator. Just a coincidence? The oil business is non-partisan. It makes no difference whether a Republican or Democrat wins an election. Just as when you go to fill up your tank at the gas station, somebody else has already chosen for you whether you buy foreign or American gas. Likewise, who you select on the voting ballot doesn't matter. Somebody else has already chosen for you. The Fascist Oil Party always wins either way.
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The Big Four Rockefeller Brothers, the grandsons of John D, each took a different slice of the world pie. Laurence Rockefeller took the Asian region as assistant regent of Japan under General MacArthur after WWII, which lead to the Vietnam "war" and the vast oil profits there.
Nelson Rockefeller became governor of New York, based on his childhood home on the vast Rockefeller estate in Terrytown on the Hudson, just north or Rye. Nelson had his eyes on stealing his way into the presidency, not by election, but by simple appointment using something he created, and slammed through Congress in 1967 in a matter of weeks. It was called the "Rockefeller Amendment," also known as the 25th Amendment to the US Constitution. It happened so fast, most people never even noticed. And the source of that amendment is not taught in schools.
The 25th Amendment allows any person, qualified or not, to become president of the US, by simple appointment, not by election. And which Nelson Rockefeller used to become vice president only 7 years later. But he had hoped to be appointed 4 years earlier by an agreement with Richard Nixon. But Nixon reneged, which lead to Nelson getting rid of Richard through the Watergate scandal set up by Nelson. Ever wonder who the deep-throated gravely voice belonged to, who spoon fed the Watergate information against Nixon to Woodward and Bernstein in the darkly lit underground garages? Go ask Woodward, he knows. But he's not telling. Ever wonder what happened to the American press?
The baby brother of the Big Four, David Rockefeller, set himself up as the monetary head of the world, using his control of the monetary system in the US through the Federal Reserve System, and then later expanded around the world by using the newly created World Bank and the International Monetary Fund to control the central banks and economies of most, and now all, nations. And what of the fourth grandson, Winthrop? Winthrop and his vast inherited wealth and power only took over a state. The state of Arkansas. Winthrop owned Arkansas and everything in it. But it was such a minor state, with many uneducated people and who would want such a puny job? Winthrop did. Winthrop owned Arkansas.
In 1973 during the Watergate Scandal hearings, Nixon was being maneuvered out of the Oval Office and a Rockefeller friend, Jerry Ford who had been "appointed" by Nixon, was being maneuvered into office as interim president. Then using the Rockefeller 25th Amendment, Jerry in turn "appointed" Nelson Rockefeller as his Vice President. This would seem a rather strange game of Rockefeller musical chairs, and even more strangely the American press and the public never even noticed.
The press was too busy with the "leaked" Nixon Watergate scandals to notice what was happening just behind the scenery. The fascist energy empire was learning how to use outrageous scandal as a cover for the next phase of political activity. Even though the political activity is in plain sight for all to see, it simply is not reported by the press, therefore it disappears.
It was a young Hillary Rodham Clinton, as one of the lead congressional law counsels during the Watergate hearings, who helped put Nelson Rockefeller in position. As payback, Hillary's husband would be made Governor of Arkansas, with the assistance of Winthrop Rockefeller, who owned Arkansas.
That deal was a slam dunk and William Clinton became Arkansas governor. But Bill Clinton was such a scandalous ruffian, even the simple folk of Arkansas wanted to quickly impeach him and toss him out of office. So Winthrop had to save the day and step in for a while as interim Governor of Arkansas until the scandals quieted down. Then Clinton returned for a second term as governor. And why would Winthrop do all that? Because Rockefeller-BP-Standard was grooming "scandalous" Bill Clinton to take over as their man in the Presidency. Bill Clinton had been a Rockefeller oil man ever since his college days as a Rhodes scholar, and his trip to visit the oil men in the USSR back in the 1960's.
http://www.brojon.org/frontpage/bj050701-4.html
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Gulf Oil Spill More Than 10X Greater Than Thought: Experts
by leavingwt inthe news from the gulf just keeps getting worse.
gulf oil spill more than 10x greater than thought: expertsby frank james and allison richards.
npr has learned that much more oil, 70,000 barrels a day or more than ten times the official estimate, is gushing into the gulf of mexico from the deepwater horizon pipe, based on scientific analysis of the video released wednesday.. that's the equivalent of one exxon valdez tanker full every four days.
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Oil Spill May Be Pushing Sharks Toward Fla. Beaches
(June 11) -- The appearance of a huge man-eating shark near a Florida beach on the cusp of the summer swimming season would not usually evoke a sympathetic response from either beachgoers or local tourism boosters. But the discovery of a weakened, disoriented tiger shark -- measuring more than 11 feet and weighing some 800 pounds -- in the surf of Nokomis Beach last month has become something of a poignant symbol for what scientists fear most from the gulf oil spill: the unknown effects of the massive underwater oil plume and dispersants on marine life beneath the waves. "When we see deeper-water sharks this close to shore, it leads me to believe that something is going on," said Robert Hueter, director of the Center for Shark Research at the Mote Marine Laboratory in Sarasota. "The tiger shark was still alive, but disoriented and lethargic. That matches what toxicologists tell me are the effects of oil on other invertebrates.".....................
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Gulf Oil Spill More Than 10X Greater Than Thought: Experts
by leavingwt inthe news from the gulf just keeps getting worse.
gulf oil spill more than 10x greater than thought: expertsby frank james and allison richards.
npr has learned that much more oil, 70,000 barrels a day or more than ten times the official estimate, is gushing into the gulf of mexico from the deepwater horizon pipe, based on scientific analysis of the video released wednesday.. that's the equivalent of one exxon valdez tanker full every four days.
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Dear NaturalNews readers,
"The U.S. government has been conspiring with the oil industry to keep the ingredients of the Corexit chemical dispersant a secret. But now, under intense pressure, the EPA has finally gone public with the list of chemicals that have been dumped into the Gulf of Mexico to the tune of over a million gallons. The toxicity of these chemicals is disturbing, and it now seems like this chemical dispersant may be worse than the oil it's supposed to be dispersing. Read more in my report today:" -
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Mr. Flipper Talks with Bethel Legal Service Desk Rep About JW Child Abuse
by flipper inwell - i had been wanting to do this for a long time , to question a legal department representative at bethel about the child abuse settlements and jw child abuse, since last year when the news came out about it.
especially since my dad , an elder for years was never aware of it and has on his own taken steps to see that families with children are informed if a former pedophile is in their congregation.
i was curious as to what the current views and policies in place are .
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Well done Flipper. Here's something from freeminds to add. http://www.freeminds.org/life-stories/bethelites/there-s-something-rotten-in-brooklyn-crisis-of-conscience-confirms-an-elders-suspicions.html
"..........For the first time in my life, I started questioning and researching the Watchtower Society's history, beliefs and practices. Having been raised as a Jehovah's Witness, I guess I had just accepted everything my parents had told me. Plus, my parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, etc had all been Jehovah's Witnesses -- wasn't it presumptuous of me to think something was wrong with the organization that had been trusted by so many generations of my family? Probably, but I still had to know for sure.
So I was stunned by what I discovered. Almost everything I had thought was 'truth' turned out to be lies. Not only were the Governing Body promoting flawed child protection policies, but they appeared to have deliberately introduced loopholes that allowed alleged molesters to avoid investigation. For example:
- the elders were not to investigate an allegation of child molestation unless there were two witnesses to the alleged abuse, apart from the complainant. As if any molester would ever wait for eyewitnesses before engaging in his shameful acts;
- on the rare occasions when an alleged abuser was investigated by the body of elders, the Society instructed the elders not to report the matter to the police unless they were legally required to (though this appears to have been widely ignored);
- despite assurances by the Society that a 'known' abuser would never be reappointed as an elder or ministerial servant, a further loophole was introduced that permitted such a man to regain a position of trust in a congregation, so long as his activities had not become public knowledge.
Victims of child abuse were threatened with expulsion from the congregation and shunning by all Jehovah's Witnesses if they told anyone about their experiences. Elders were told not to warn the ordinary members of the congregation when a child molester was in their midst, though of course, the elders all knew and made sure their own children were never alone with him. Meanwhile, the Watchtower Society's leaders continued to insist they had the best child protection policies in the universe..................................."
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Ten Warning Signs of a Unsafe Group/Leader to Watch out For
by thetrueone inten warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader.absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.
no tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.
no meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.
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Ten warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader.
1. Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.
4. Unreasonable fear about the outside world,
9. The group/leader is always right.
Happened to pick up the 5/1/10 wt yesterday and happened to open to p26-7 where two articles appear side by side that illustrate the mind control technique/dangerous leadership characteristics. The first article, "Will You Walk in Loyalty" talks about trusting Jehovah with no mention of organization. Only trust in him, "no matter how others may let you down." Translation trust the borg no matter what. The second article, "How Do JW's View Interfaith?" Translation - trust only the borg - all others are evil.
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If I'm so intelligent how did I get drawn in to it all?
by Lozhasleft ini consider myself an intelligent woman...maybe not strong on the 'common sense' front, but academically i've done pretty well...so...how on earth did i not see through it all when i was studying in the beginning???.
i remember worrying about their 'sales pitching' styles and their arrogance of believing they had the 'truth' ...but still i got involved and became totally immersed in it all.
i feel like i sacrificied our whole family to them, who now shun me.. yesterday, my new son in law, he's a lawyer, asked me how i could have believed it wasnt a cult (topical word this week here) he said he didnt understand how i could have been persuaded to believe it all and trust them with so much and for so many years...... i feel ashamed of myself that i did and that i brought all this upon our family...anyone else relate?.
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Intelligent people are often most susceptible to emotional manipulation, as they tend to try to ignore that side of the brain. There are many very smart jw's who give in to the corruption like attorneys and police because compromise is demanded. They make meetings, field service and personal Bible Sudy (none of which is Scriptural) requirements or else you cannot join the group that challenges your intellect. So you ignore those nagging little suspicions and go all in. And it's not all bad. The problem is getting out. i remember a young man who refused to be baptized. But he came to every meeting and went out in field service. The eldertrons couldn't touch him. He obviously understood what was at stake.