As a former Catholic alterboy, I had an idyllic childhood so I am even more shocked at perverted wrong-doing in the Church and feel that all guilty of such gross evil must be presecuted to the full extent of the law. The pope has expressed his disgust and hopefully justice to the victims will be done. I am deeply ashamed of elements of my Church
maputo95
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Catholic Sex Abuse in Germany
by leavingwt ininside germany's catholic sexual abuse scandal.
.. as shocking as the revelations were, they are merely "the tip of the iceberg," says the current director of canisius college, father klaus mertes, who made public the sexual abuse of students.. for decades, german bishops tried to look the other way when their pastors engaged in sexual abuse, as well as to downplay the problem by characterizing it as isolated incidents.
now they are finally revealing their own figures, though hesitantly.
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Elton John says Jesus was Gay!!
by spawn inin a us interview elton john says "i think jesus was a compassionate, super-intelligent gay man who understood human problems".
what do you in the us think of his comments?.
we in the uk find him to be a sad old queen with a bitter and twisted view on life!.
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maputo95
I love Elton's musicianship. Also, he is free from drugs and booze, reportedly because of the Twelve Step Programme which I recommend to all ex-JWs.
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Christians: Is Military Service Wrong?
by leavingwt inchristians: is military service wrong?.
imho, there are times when individuals/famlies/communities/states/nations must take up arms to defend themselves.
otherwise, they will cease to exist.. .
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maputo95
There are many non-Witnesses who become conscientious objectors such as the quakers and there were the Seventh Day Adventists who joined up but in non-fighting units. Many Catholics took non-combative roles such as chaplains and medics. An example of this is John Bradburne of Mutemwa Mission,Zimbabwe who was a medic in the British Army in Burma during World War Two. During some fire fights between the British and Japanese, he went around, singing Bach, taking care of the wounded and dying from both sides. He was later murdered by a guerilla in Zimbabwe and many miracles are associated with him during his funeral and beyond the grave.
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A JW's Exposition On WT's Beliefs on the Afterlife
by maputo95 inmy personal view on the nature of the soul and the afterlife are almost diametrically opposed to those of the wt.
below is my jw's friend justification for the wt belief that the dead are extinct and conscious of nothing.
please comment on the strength of the explanation he gives:.
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maputo95
Thank you everyone. Mary, I'll follow the tread you mention.
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A JW's Exposition On WT's Beliefs on the Afterlife
by maputo95 inmy personal view on the nature of the soul and the afterlife are almost diametrically opposed to those of the wt.
below is my jw's friend justification for the wt belief that the dead are extinct and conscious of nothing.
please comment on the strength of the explanation he gives:.
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maputo95
I am not an ex-JW but have been affected by family who were in the cult.
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A JW's Exposition On WT's Beliefs on the Afterlife
by maputo95 inmy personal view on the nature of the soul and the afterlife are almost diametrically opposed to those of the wt.
below is my jw's friend justification for the wt belief that the dead are extinct and conscious of nothing.
please comment on the strength of the explanation he gives:.
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maputo95
Hi All
My personal view on the nature of the soul and the afterlife are almost diametrically opposed to those of the WT. Below is my JW's friend justification for the WT belief that the dead are extinct and conscious of nothing. Please comment on the strength of the explanation he gives:
The dead are conscious of nothing.
He keeps all names in his book of life and knows everything about everyone.
That’s when he will call out their names and they will be resurrected – just like Lazarus was resurrected by Jesus
(Lazarus didn’t go to heaven for the 4 days he was dead and tell everyone about his experiences in heaven). Jesus resurrected him back to life fro the common grace (he was asleep in death)
Thank you
Ken
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My JW Friend's Justification for the WT Being God's Chosen Organisation
by maputo95 inbelow is my jw friend's "proof" that the wt is god's only organisation and mouthpiece on earth.
he has yet to reinforce his strange story by biblical text or the church fathers or any historical evidence.. please, suggest how i may respond to his assertion.
i believe that this is the fundamental doctrine of the 'borg' and the one on which wt credibility rests.. thank you.. .
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maputo95
Hi All
Below is my JW friend's "proof" that the WT is God's ONLY organisation and mouthpiece on earth. He has yet to reinforce his strange story by biblical text or The Church Fathers or any historical evidence.
Please, suggest how I may respond to his assertion. I believe that this is the fundamental doctrine of the 'borg' and the one on which WT credibility rests.
Thank you.
IN 1919, THE “2 DEAD WITNESSES WERE BROUGHT TO LIFE” (SYMBOLICALLY) AND STOOD UP AGAIN TO START THE WORLDWIDE PREACHING WORK AFTER BEING INACTIVE (IMPORISONED,ETC IN WW1)
THESE WERE THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE CLASS WHO WERE GIVEN THE COMMAND TO AWAKEN AND RE-STARTT THE BOLD WORLDWIDE PREACHING WORK - AS PROPHECIED IN REVELATION…
1919 WAS ALSO THE BEGINNING OF A TOTAL CLEAN BREAK FROM CHRISTENDOM AND HER BABYLONISH TEACHINGS AND DOCTRINES
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Please Suggest An Answer to This Conversation Stopper
by maputo95 inplease suggest an answer to this conversation stopper: i sent the first statement and he responded with the 2nd statement:.
equivocation:.
the bible forbids "taking in" blood.
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maputo95
Hi Chris, (Black Sheep)
My JW friend responded to my request for biblical evidence that God chose the Watchtower in 1919 to be the sole mouthpiece for "Jehovah" on earth with this flight of imagination:
IN 1919, THE “2 DEAD WITNESSES WERE BROUGHT TO LIFE” (SYMBOLICALLY) AND STOOD UP AGAIN TO START THE WORLDWIDE PREACHING WORK AFTER BEING INACTIVE (IMPORISONED,ETC IN WW1)
THESE WERE THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE CLASS WHO WERE GIVEN THE COMMAND TO AWAKEN AND RE-START THE BOLD WORLDWIDE PREACHING WORK - AS PROPHESIED IN REVELATION…
1919 WAS ALSO THE BEGINNING OF A TOTAL CLEAN- BREAK FROM CHRISTENDOM AND HER BABYLONISH TEACHINGS AND DOCTRINES
Plesae comment on this proof he submits as evidence he is right and everybody else is wrong.
Thank you.
Ken.
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Please Suggest An Answer to This Conversation Stopper
by maputo95 inplease suggest an answer to this conversation stopper: i sent the first statement and he responded with the 2nd statement:.
equivocation:.
the bible forbids "taking in" blood.
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maputo95
Please Suggest An Answer to This Conversation Stopper: I sent the first statement and he responded with the 2nd statement:
Equivocation :
The Bible forbids "taking in" blood
This is FALSE LOGIC-BIG TIME!!!
LOOK UP "EQUIVOCATION
Please let us discuss History and Theology in a friendly and logical manner.
Stop cutting hairs !!!
Abstain from blood _ end of story
How you take it in doesn’t matter – blood is blood , whether it’s thru mouth or into vein
Heroin can be ingested in mouth and in vein
End of story
No more discussions on this please and don’t’ keep berating my beliefs (which are bible-based)
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Logical Fallacies Jws Use to Win Debates
by maputo95 inplease feel free to contribute any experience you may have on dishonest tricks jws use to put their fallacious, moronic agenda across.
i have not touched upon 'red herrings' and 'circular arguments' below:.
the best way to ge through to a jw is to pray for him.
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maputo95
Excellent. Thank you all for the insights you provide!