Posts by peacedog

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Armagedden Suitcase

by Magwitch in

my mother let it slip the other day that all the families in their hall are putting together a small suitcase.

inside this suitcase are to be things that you will take with you if given a 5 minute warning that the great tribulation is starting and you need to leave your home.

my father seemed quite embarrassed that this slipped.

(Mark 13:14-16) 14 "However, when YOU catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation standing where it ought not (let the reader use discernment), then let those in Ju·de´a begin fleeing to the mountains. 15 Let the man on the housetop not come down, nor go inside to take anything out of his house; 16 and let the man in the field not return to the things behind to pick up his outer garment.

The preparing of a suitcase is in direct violation of this scripture.

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"Bearing Thorough Witness" book and Jason David BeDuhn quotes

by sd-7 in

the beduhn book, truth in translation, finally arrived today at the office.

here's a comparison with what the faithful slave says and not even the half of what beduhn says:.

bearing thorough witness about god's kingdom, box on page 105:.

peacedog

"This movement [Jehovah's Witnesses] has, unlike the Protestant Reformation, really sought to reinvent Christianity from scratch. Whether you regard that as a good or a bad thing, you can probably understand that it resulted in the Jehovah's Witnesses approaching the Bible with a kind of innocence, and building their system of belief and practice from the raw material of the Bible without predetermining what was to be found there."

This shows how IGNORANT Beduhn is about the JWs. Only an idiot would make such a blanket statement in the absence of any evidence to support it.

The entire Russell/JW movement was based on Russell's PREDETERMINED views on Christian doctrines such as the Trinity and Hellfire, and the NWT was created for the simple reason of supporting the movements PRETERMINED anti-Christian views.

If I'd had any respect for Beduhn I would have lost it when I read that statement.

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JW mother makes sick video.....comments please.

by koolaid-man in

jw
friends

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyakn5ediju&feature=email.

peacedog

In my experience most jw mothers would do this... The minority would not. But that's just my experience.

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Some questions for the JWs here

by Mickey mouse in

can you prove the following watchtower teachings using nothing other than the bible?.

1. jehovah has an earthly organization today and that the governing body is being directed by jehovah.

2. only the remnant have the heavenly hope.

peacedog

"The great crowd is not 'in' heaven in the book of Revelations."

Actually......

After these things I heard what was as a loud voice of a great crowd in heaven (Revelation 19:1 NWT)

After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands....That is why they are before the throne of God; and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them. (Revelation 7:9,15 NWT)

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Congregation "Bible Study" Comments - Week Commencing 2 November 2009

by LUKEWARM in

*** lv chap.

12 pp.

133-143 speak what "is good for building up" ***.

peacedog

"Jehovah holds us accountable for our words"

I wonder if he'll hold the WT$ accountable for these words:

Jehovah's prophetic word through Jesus Christ is: 'This generation [of 1914] will by no means pass away until all things occur.'

the Creator's promise of a peaceful and secure new world before the generation that saw the events of 1914 passes away

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underling++ = spirtuality++

by highdose in

jw
friends

dos anyone remember how the dubs used to try and show how spirtual they were by how much they had underlined their watchtower?.

this also happened to their bibles too, i saw one that was almost unreadable due to the mass of neon coloured highlighters and scribbles in the margin, myself i used to think "oooh they must be sooo spirtual!

" but really... how hard is it to agree with brain washing when your brain washed yourself?

peacedog

A DF friend of mine is trying to get reinstated (for family). He approached the elders about it a couple weeks ago after attending meetings for six months. One of the reasons they gave him for their NOT reinstating him was that they had noticed his Watchtowers were not underlined........

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Antichrist?

by mouthy in

watchtower ,aug 1st 1981 say.

your attitude toward the wheat like anointed "brothers"of christ will be the determining factor as to whether you go into "everlasting cutting off"or to receive "everlasting life ( math 25:34-36.

watchtower,july 15th 1991 says.

peacedog

Actually the Society even referred to themselves as "The Christ". Crazy that they'd do this in the face of Matt 24:4,5:

Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many.

Accoring to the WT$, "The Christ" is themselves (the 144,000) plus the man Jesus:

The word Christ signifies anointed. Anointing means designation to official position in God’s arrangement. The Christ is the instrument or channel for the blessing of mankind. The Christ is composed of Jesus, the great and mighty head, and 144,000 members. ---The Harp of God, 1921, p 187

They are slightly more subtle about it in recent years - probably because of Matt 24. Now they refer to themselves as "the anointed" instead of "the Christ". Yet, as they acknowledged in the Harp of God quoted above, "Christ signifies anointed"; so the doctrine hasn't changed, just their choice of words.

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Antichrist?

by mouthy in

watchtower ,aug 1st 1981 say.

your attitude toward the wheat like anointed "brothers"of christ will be the determining factor as to whether you go into "everlasting cutting off"or to receive "everlasting life ( math 25:34-36.

watchtower,july 15th 1991 says.

peacedog

Amazing!! Thanks for bringing this to the top.

Original post reposted here:

Watchtower ,Aug 1st 1981 say
Your attitude toward the wheat like anointed "brothers"of Christ will be the determining factor as to whether you go into "everlasting cutting off"or to receive "Everlasting life ( Math 25:34-36
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Watchtower,July 15th 1991 says
these anointed Christians are ambassadors for Christ, SUBSTITUTING for Christ.
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Deliverance,p202,1926 WTB&TS says
Antichrist is that which is offered as a substitute for Jesus Christ
The Messiah,therefore in opposition to the Messiah
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In Mouthys eyes- they just called themselves the antichrist.Right?

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Valley Farms Corp. What do they protect with it?

by MinisterAmos in

most already know that watchtower corp atty phil brumley uses a patterson, ny address as his residence.

using google maps, 131 brimstone road, patterson ny is starting to shape up into a veritable mansion.

maybe they are planning another rutherford (also an atty) style beth sharim but this time close to wallkill?.

peacedog

Makes me wonder whether other WT$ lawyers are also living high on the hog.......

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From Noah's Ark to Australia - Awake! Jan. 8, 1969 pp. 5-8

by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

so, how did the kangaroos get from noah's ark to australia?

i'd never found any references in watchtower litteratrash, until i stumbled upon this farticle "from noah's ark to australia" in the 1969 awake bound volume.

most of it is wordy and rather pointless, so i only typed two middle subheadings for consideration:.

peacedog

"So, how did the kangaroos get from Noah's ark to Australia?"

This question plagued me as a (jw) kid. Ironically, it's essentially this same question that caused me to lose faith in the Bible as an adult.

Great post.