blondie - thanks for that, good idea. Somehow i dont think they will call if they had to go thru my daughter.
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Elders in my cong are unbeleivable!!!
by nearlyfree ini havent been to a meeting for over 3 months now, i wanted to do a slow fade, going to a meeting everynow and then just to keep the elders of my back but couldnt face going to another meeting..... anyway my daughter still is attending the meetings, and in that time that i have not been there no one has asked her how i am, until last night at the meeting an elder comes up to her and asks her why i havent been to the meetings, and if he and a new elder in the cong can come over tonight and talk to me!!!!!
i couldnt believe it when she told me!!!!!
!how sneaky are they to try and organize through my daughter to come and see me, you would think that they would ring me and talk directly to me, i was so mad, that i felt like ringing up the elder and telling him exactly what i thought of him, but decided it was not a good idea incase i started going on about "apostate stuff" i tend to get bit carried away when i am angry........ .
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Elders in my cong are unbeleivable!!!
by nearlyfree ini havent been to a meeting for over 3 months now, i wanted to do a slow fade, going to a meeting everynow and then just to keep the elders of my back but couldnt face going to another meeting..... anyway my daughter still is attending the meetings, and in that time that i have not been there no one has asked her how i am, until last night at the meeting an elder comes up to her and asks her why i havent been to the meetings, and if he and a new elder in the cong can come over tonight and talk to me!!!!!
i couldnt believe it when she told me!!!!!
!how sneaky are they to try and organize through my daughter to come and see me, you would think that they would ring me and talk directly to me, i was so mad, that i felt like ringing up the elder and telling him exactly what i thought of him, but decided it was not a good idea incase i started going on about "apostate stuff" i tend to get bit carried away when i am angry........ .
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nearlyfree
I havent been to a meeting for over 3 months now, i wanted to do a slow fade, going to a meeting everynow and then just to keep the elders of my back but couldnt face going to another meeting..... Anyway my daughter still is attending the meetings, and in that time that i have not been there no one has asked her how i am, until last night at the meeting an elder comes up to her and asks her why i havent been to the meetings, and if he and a new elder in the cong can come over tonight and talk to me!!!!! I couldnt believe it when she told me!!!!!!How sneaky are they to try and organize through my daughter to come and see me, you would think that they would ring me and talk directly to me, I was so mad, that i felt like ringing up the elder and telling him exactly what i thought of him, but decided it was not a good idea incase i started going on about "apostate stuff" i tend to get bit carried away when i am angry........
Now I am waiting to see if he calls me........ and thanks to all the advice ive read on this board, i will know exactly what to say to them to stop them coming aroud - but will still have a go at them for the underhanded way they acted!! Im looking forward to that bit (hehehe) :)
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How Many Here Actually "Studied" The Publications?
by minimus inwhen i was a teenager i extensively studied nearly every publication.
i especially enjoyed looking up the root words meanings in the hebrew and greek of the bible language.
it gave me the flavor of a word and its origins.
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nearlyfree
no.... but I had to look like I did so I used to do the watchtower by reading the question first and then skimming the paragraph for the answer. Could do a study article in about 10 minutes. Same for the bookstudy as well!! Its was always the same boring crap. Sometimes i didnt even bother doing that and used to underline a few lines in each paragraph - usually the middle - as thats where most of the answers were most of the time.
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Do you regret confessing your sins to the elders?
by asilentone inyes, i do!
i did it 20 years ago, but the elders still remember what i did, sometimes i wish they never knew about it.
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nearlyfree
okay Gregor, without going into to much detail - i had a JC about 17 years ago....... my ex's was a year and half ago. Two sepearte issues his was for imorality mine was not. Im fading fast - as for him i dont know what his thoughts are or if he is still in or not..
Hope that clears things up for you :)
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wife took it pretty well i guess...it's over...
by oompa ini guess it only took three years, but they were hell in so many ways for both of us...she was not happy and lived in denial as much as possible...i was not happy and lived in a bottle as much as possible and glad that is over for me....but it was one of the saddest things i have ever experienced in my life....as was the visit to my parents before i told her....but yes...she said she kind of expected it...was thinking something was going to happen soon as she noticed i had more and more trouble saying i love you back to her when she said it on the phone at the end of goodbyes...and when i was leaving the house...i had noticed it for over a year and it was killing me..... i told her how sorry i was for changing so much again....and that she still walks on water...and is a great person and so pretty....and that she will be ok because she was happy single before me for many years and had all she needs for that again...her closeness to jehovah and her freinds in the congregation...she is very close to both and will be ok i hope...it was very surreal....very calm...very sad.
my bitterness and disdain for wt rules came through when talking to my parents and i was very open about how i feel as to their upcoming shunning of me, and how it feels to my son since he was just 17....and how the fear of losing them had kept me trying in my marriage for the past few years...dad was firm in his position of future action....mom said they will still always love me...and will still talk to me until i get dfd.....oh how this hurts.....dad said there is a name for people who only live for themselves and deny god but could not think of what it was....i told him i was not living just for myself...that i am a good person and there are values from him and the bible i hope i always have....i cry so hard as i type this and tell you just so you can know how painful this is....i told him i so loved the rule of treating others how you want to be treated and have always done that...even allowing myself to be wronged on so many occasions to keep peace....... he said that was a good rule....i agreed and said it was a big one too....and that while i could do it...treat him the way i would like to be treated...he would not be able to!.......left as i became emotional...big hug from mom, but i just barely put an arm on dad............oompa.
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nearlyfree
Hi Oompa - my heart goes out to you. I know things feel realy bad at the moment and the pain is all consuming and unbearable.... but it does get better and life will get better. It is early days yet, and life has a funny way of turning out, not as we expect, but nevertheless sometimes better than we expect. In the meantime though - keep positive and look after your self :)
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Do you regret confessing your sins to the elders?
by asilentone inyes, i do!
i did it 20 years ago, but the elders still remember what i did, sometimes i wish they never knew about it.
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nearlyfree
Yes definately, i had no choice as i was dobbed in by my ex, within minutes of telling my hubby of my sins! he was on the phone setting up a comittee case ( come to think of it now - i think he wanted me to be DF which i wasnt). When it was his turn - he begged me not to tell the elders, i gave him 2 weeks . I think it was harder for him as he was a MS. - Oh the Shame!!! ( he didnt get DF either)
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According to bookstudy, it's ok to beat wife.....occassionally
by JWinprotest ini apologize if this has been mentioned, but i don't have the time to come on here as often.
yesterday's bookstudy on divorce got my shorts in a bit of a knot.
apparently, according to the god's love book, a wife could consider legal separation from her husband if she is physically abused, but (get this) only in the case of extreme physical abuse, and if the wife's life is in danger.
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nearlyfree
I cant believe that they encourage wives to stay with their husbands - its criminal. I grew up with a father who was emotioanlly abusive with us kids and mum and swore to myself that if my hubby ever him me i would leave him. Well one time he did and what did i do...... I turned around and bashed him over the head with a plate, ( good memory) but should have left him, becuase he was verbally, mentaly and emotionaly abuse to me, and i stayed!!! ( yes i was a JW idiot)
This kind of abuse is just as bad if not worse than physical abuse because the bruises are not visible - and in my case no one would believe me as he was a MS. Anyway the second time he hit me was after we had split up - i reported to the police, took him to court, got an AVO out against him, and have never been more proud of myself for finally standing up to him. I will never let myself be subjected to that kind of treatment ever again and never let anyone tell me what Im supposed to put up with or not . I feel sorry for those sisters ( or brothers)who are putting up with abusive relationships and feel/told the right thing to do is to stay and put up with it - it doesnt make sense.!!!! They need to take action - not stay and put up with more abuse!!!!
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I stumbled upon this anagrams website....
by lisavegas420 ini typed in:.
jehovah's witnesses .
and it came back:.
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nearlyfree
This website is so cool........... heres a few i did - the last one is interesting!!!!!
webuser: my name
sternest: Jar as antiknock.
. webuser: my ex
sternest: Not junk a psychoanal
webuser: special pioneer
sternest: Coarse pipeline.
webuser: giliead graduate
sternest: Ideal, aged guitar.
webuser: pioneer school
sternest: Nice hero loops.
webuser: ministerial servant
sternest: I am transient silver.
webuser: presiding overseer
sternest: Deprive regression.
webuser: special assembly day
sternest: Measly as despicably.
webuser: district convention
sternest: Strident conviction.
webuser: memorial evening
sternest: Grim, mean Evil one.
And the best one yet....................
Top of Form
webuser: elder
sternest: You don't make sense. (Message is too short.)
Bottom of Form
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Hi - new kid on th block
by nearlyfree ini have been looking at this website for about 2 months now and feel i am now ready to say hi and intoduce myself.i dont want to give out too much info at this point in time as i still am in the org, but have only been to 2 meetings since the district convention in august and last time i went out on service was in march.
i was basically raised in the truth as my parents became jw when i was 2. i was married in my late teens and after 21 years of being married to a total control freak he left me (yay).
anyway since me ex left, i had been doing a lot of thinking about being a witness, and i wasnt really going to a lot of meetings - just didnt feel like it.
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nearlyfree
Hey guys - a big thanks to you all for making me feel so welcome here. Its great knowing that you guys understand and get what im saying and going thru. I appreciate all your comments and advice ( satanus i liked your suggestion of someone impersonating the secretary from another cong and sending my records to them - has this been done before??), and I look forward to getting to know you all.
I dont know if any of you felt a sense of exitement or anticipation of what your life will be like when no longer a witness, but that is how i feel. Im looking forward to experiencing life on a whole new level! I feel as if i have been given a whole new lease on life - a second chance and im going to make the most of it.
And yes - a meetup ins sydney sounds great - Ill definately be in that. :)
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Hi - new kid on th block
by nearlyfree ini have been looking at this website for about 2 months now and feel i am now ready to say hi and intoduce myself.i dont want to give out too much info at this point in time as i still am in the org, but have only been to 2 meetings since the district convention in august and last time i went out on service was in march.
i was basically raised in the truth as my parents became jw when i was 2. i was married in my late teens and after 21 years of being married to a total control freak he left me (yay).
anyway since me ex left, i had been doing a lot of thinking about being a witness, and i wasnt really going to a lot of meetings - just didnt feel like it.
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nearlyfree
Hello to everyone here. I have been looking at this website for about 2 months now and feel i am now ready to say hi and intoduce myself.I dont want to give out too much info at this point in time as I still am in the org, but have only been to 2 meetings since the District convention in August and last time i went out on service was in March. I was basically raised in the truth as my parents became JW when i was 2. I was married in my late teens and after 21 years of being married to a total control freak he left me (yay). Anyway since me ex left, i had been doing a lot of thinking about being a witness, and i wasnt really going to a lot of meetings - just didnt feel like it. I guess being finally free to be able to do what I wanted when i wanted was quite a new experience for me - my ex was a MS and so desperatly wanted to become and elder. ( I guess the elders in our cong got one thing right when after 10 years my ex still wasnt appointed as an elder much to his disgust). Ha ha......
Becuase he was trying so hard we were the perfect JW family - never missed a meeting - service every weekend - answered at every meeting - used for parts on the service meeting- etc etc - you get the picture. So when he left I was left wondering - why am i doing all this. Is it because I want to or this is just so ingrained in my life that i just did what i always did. Well then i started to slacken off with the meetings - virtually stopped going out in field service overnight - still could count 1 hour for the supposed family study i did with the kid, ( still using that avenue now ) and came to realize that I didnt want to do it any more. I had a few doubts about a few things along the way, but nothing really major - and besides i didnt have the time to investigate anything. Anyway, i wasnt looking at any sites about JW or anything like that, just happy to be a real slacker, and the elders were really good at doing their job of not coming to visit me or enquiring as to why i wasnt coming to anymore meetings or going out in field service - they were avoiding me like the plague -due to circumstances surrounding me ex's comittee case ( he wasnt df) and and events that followed after - but that is another story in itself. Suffice to say - they were in the wrong and they knew it. Back to the story - I was on the net one day - and accidentaly came accross freeminds web site - Well..........I was glued to the computer for the next 3 weeks.... I think i read every article, blog on that website... ordered Crisis of Concience - In search of Christian Freedom, Captives of a concept, combatting cult mind control and read those too.!!! When I read Crisis of Concience I literally broke down and cried...... I coudnt believe I had beleived a whole bunch of crap for all my life. I often used to wonder if I wasnt a witness and witness came to my door would i listen. Well i now know i would not listen to them and I know exactly what to say to them!!!
When I went to the meeting 2 weeks ago - It was the service meeting - i had to leave half way through - i was sitting there thinking to myself how on earth i could have sat there for all those years and not realize i was being brain washed. I literally felt like getting up and screaming that i just couldnt take this crap anymore more Once you realize its not the truth anymore it all seems so ridiculous! - It felt so good to hop in my car and drive home. I never want to go back!!! I have been having a reoccuring dream that I am at the meeting and all of a sudden the doors close and these wrist and ankle clamps come out of the chairs when everyone is sitting down and they cant move, and i go around and gag everyone, so no one can talk and then i get on the platform and tell every JW dub the truth about the truth. ( ha ha...... i like that dream makes me laugh).
The thing is I dont want to DA myself or get DF because I still have some family in the truth, and I dont want to lose them. I dont have any real friends in the cong (my ex was a walking advert for how to lose friends and alienate people! )- since i have not been there - all my so called bros & sisters have not called, come by to see how i am doing. Oh well i am spiritually weak now i guess.... cant hang around someone like that.......bad association.... and all that crap. my youngest doesnt want to go to any meetings either, She told me that she never believed any of the stuff she was taught and thought it was a load of rubbish!!!!! ( smart kid , only 12). My family all live in other states than I do so I am finding it a bit hard having no friends ( or so called friends ) to hang out with, but I know that in time i will make new friends..... Any of you guys live in Sydney???
Anyway, I just wanted to know if I can tell my elders that Im changing congs - and if they can send my records to the new cong - and never show up, or do i actually have to go to the new cong for a week or two??? dont know what the protocol with this is??? Its just that my eldest daughter is concerned that i have been missing so many meetings - I told her that i couldnt go back to that hall - with everything that happened there - and that i will be going to a new cong - but taking a break for the moment. She is okay with that for the time being.
Hope this is not too disjointed, as im writng this at work.