I always think if jews did proselytize and hence goys were informed real biblical truths (ie satans real role who messiah really is etc )there would be no christianity period.
Diogenesister
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Comparing JWs to Jews
by CalebInFloroda insome have asked how my views and convictions have changed over the past 15 years or so after leaving the watchtower behind to return to my familys roots and embrace judaism.
the best way to explain things is to allow both the religion of the watchtower and my life as a jew today to stand side-by-side for comparison.
while i cant guarantee this will help prove to others that the jehovahs witnesses are truly a crazy religious group, i am sure it will prove to most that jews probably are, and are quite aware of it.
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Index of acronyms : help for new forumers
by Mary J Blige inam finding a whole lot of acronyms that are really foreign to me and i now have an appreciation for what cult language sounds like to non-culters.
wondering please if you can post your definitions so i can get up to speed.
otherwise, as an indoctrinated ex-culter, i am inclined to create my own new light and swiftly it will be gospel.
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Thanks the listener you ARE the listener (And punkofnice ) I really didnt know what TTATT meant! But felt too stupid go ask!! -
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For those who gave their lives
by Diogenesister insorry if this is a bit of a bummer, folks, but i am feeling really down about this and had to post.
i took my life in my hands and checked out jw.org, initially to find out what the go was regarding the sarah as satan posts and the patronus spell lion ( although i was nearly crying with laughter when i real that all along the watchtower (spiritualist harry potter reading) flash of writing department madness, well the posts about it anyway.. anyway what made me feel so bad was something about being good to full time long term service people..in the caleb and sophia section for gods sake!
it was this sad picture of two elderly publishers ( god what a word!
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Sorry if this is a bit of a bummer, folks, but I am feeling really down about this and had to post. I took my life in my hands and checked out jw.org, initially to find out what the go was regarding the Sarah as Satan posts and the Patronus spell lion ( although I was nearly crying with LAUGHTER when I real THAT all along the watchtower (spiritualist Harry Potter reading) flash of writing department madness, well the posts about it anyway.
Anyway what made me feel so bad was something about being good to full time long term service people..in the caleb and sophia section for gods sake! It was this sad picture of two elderly publishers ( god what a word! Fucking publishing company) posed next to their happy younger selves. It was jusy the utter SADNESS, EMPTY YAWNING DEPRESSION at the thoughts of thousands of tender hearted, gentle souls who sacrifice their whole lives to a money making pyramid company - for the sake of love of their fellow man. Ok maybe they get a decent marriage out of it which many self centered worldly types don't.
Will I get a lot of amgry responses?
I saw the heartbreaking post by the in JW who watched a df'd, sincere young man hauled over hot coals by the w@#*y elders till he couln't take anymore and skiddadled. It saddened me beyond belief and I posted a reply which messed up. It was about the no of people we dont hear about, the ones whoose self esteem is so low because they 'miss the mark'(as my spiritual mother never tired of telling me) that they spend the rest of their (often short)life in self destruct. The ones who go from "the book" to Bedlam (or prison or rehab). Yes I hate the org that does this but I love the people, good good people, who have given their lives over to what they see as the highest calling. Not always, but sometimes, the very best folk you will ever meet, particularly pre internet age. Sorry to blather but just feelin' sad today- not my usual cynical self. So to all you lurkers out there, you ARE appreciated..and I am aware that some are suckered in because they have a BIG HEART. Just remember, education is ALWAYS the answer and never trust anything that denegrates an education.
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That's clearly the Patronus charm in action. That man just saved himself from a Dementor! The writer is obviously a huge Harry Potter fan.
If they only KNEW what we were laughing about - that their artwork is causing us to stumble - that guy is WAY more powerful than Harry and his mates obviously!! -
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Are we going to see a mass awakening?
by kairos inthe internet is the archive for civilization.. watchtower cannot hide it's history.. are we seeing the beginning of a mass exodus out of her?.
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NEW LIGHT ...latest! The FDS was right -the generation that saw 1914 has not completely past away ( Mr Nobby Gates of Chipping Sodbury turned 106 last tuesday) at 04.15 Greenwich mean time Armeggedon started INVISABLY !!!!!! -
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Caleb & Sophia RC badges
by oppostate intake a look at this caleb & sophia rc badge for children.. .
what's the motivation to make special childrens' badges?
i smell indoctrination!.
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I agree sir82, wbt$ is known for its fingers in the ear "nah nah nah nah I can't hear you" kids don't exsist attitude (as with everything else). Making kids sit through those interminable meetings is one of their proudest boasts. Without so much as a teddy to distract them and no complaints or they are out the back of the KH for 10 mins of the biblical ROD FOR COMPANY. -
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Today's watchtower a special kind of rubbish
by freemindfade inthe wt today was horrific.
i was jumping out of my skin.
the writing department has hot to have some lose cannons writing.
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Circular no #666. WTB$ writing dept. GB LESSON 101 : IF in doubt blame
1) a women
2) satan
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How to question
by Diogenesister inhi sorry but could anyone tell me how to highlight parts of an op when posting it within my reply please?
thank you
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Hi sorry but could anyone tell me how to highlight parts of an OP when posting it within my reply please? Thank you -
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JW's are semi-trinitarians and do not understand the Sacret Secret
by paradisebeauty ini have been searching pro and anti arguments for trinity, and found out there are anti-trinitarians who believe jesus did not preexist before his human life.
and i am thinking, it kind of makes sense.
what if yahweh created a second adam.
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Dear Spiritualbeauty I know you doing a bit of 'brain workout' only but here are my thoughts : However, Jesus' s pain and suffering was real and I am sure God's, too. If you think about, Adam was created an adult, Jesus was born a baby and grew up as a normal man, I am sure God took care of him all this time and loved him very much, just as human parents do with children.
Which is why blaming adam ( and more so Eve) was so unfair.. he was not a fully rounded man and had not had time to 'evolve' (my pun) in the normal way before being tested..no wonder they were fooled. Wonderofyou is right when he says it is allegory the story of Eden as Adam just means Earth man.
I think in the Bible there is a difference between guaranteed and foreseen. Maybe God foresees if He wants to do this but does not necessarily always does this.
This why philosophers say your Almighty God cannot exsist he cannot
Be all powerful
Be all knowing
Be all good
IF god could see into the future he could not CHANGE it as then he could not have KNOWN the future (because the future he knew is now different) Therefore he cannot be all POWERFUL (can change) AND all KNOWING at the same time.
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Exodus- Ridley Scott film
by Diogenesister inhi all, any thoughts on the ridley scott film exodus :gods and kings my people?
generally, its more or less as i would envision it.. love the representation of gods spirit/angel as a child of ?10 - great age, they have not lost their innocence but are aware of the dark side of life, question everything are bitingly honest in their assesments and you can often have surprisingly adult conversations with them.
of course in all this they are often very very funny(i may be biased as my kids are this age!!!).
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Yes, thank you Twitch for replying, I think you are right there about the voices. I saw 'The last Temptation' but somehow I think Scott would have portrayed God/spirit as child regardless. I recently saw a film about Jesus 'Killing Jesus'(with arab cast complete with ululations!) again the faithfull getting their knickers in a twist about the lack of 'miricles'.Like Exodus naturalistic portrayal of these events made them look more realistic -(at least these types of film give the nod that these events may have actually taken place!) but this is not popular with the literal minded religous groups.