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  Was Jesus a hypocrite?

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jesus spoke of loving your enemy, matt.5:43, luke 6:26, but look what is said in.

  mark 16:51,16 "go preach but who ever does not believe his ass will be set on fire".. i don't think that is good news.

  hell if that is love, what the hell is hate.

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  Ahem....correction, their ASS would be set ablaze. Hardly fair to our four legged friend now is it?

  It always seems to me that the animal world has suffered horribly for our mistakes according to Biblical convention.

  As to Jesus being a hypocrite, we don't actually know that he said the stuff about the ass, fig tree, sword etc Who knows? A lot of the more extreme stuff, certainly against women, was said to be added in the 4th century by mysoganist monks jealous of the unusual power women in the early Christian church wielded.

  Sorry. Gone off topic a bit.
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  My First Birthday.....

  by The Marvster in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i awoken today and realised immidiately i'm 44 today... and after 3 years of being out, decided to acknowledge my birthday.... i'm off out to treat myself to a big hearty breakfast with cup of tea in the local weatherspoon's by the massive pond full of weird bird-life, later today i'm giving myself a gift of a 90 minute relaxation session in a float tank down by canary wharf in london.... only really have 2 close friends (it's a slow process trusting people agian) and they probably won't be able to see me today, but i'm sure i'll have a belated surprise from them both.... the first thing i did when i remembered was to rush to the computer, connect to the web and put on stevie wonder's 'happy birthday', as i listen to it, tears stream down my face... all those years of my life stolen ' but..... i'm free....'.

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  You know it doesn't make much sense
  There ought to be a law against
  Anyone who takes offense
  At a day in your celebration
  Cause we all know in our minds
  That there ought to be a time
  That we can set aside
  To show just how much we love you

  Happy birthday!!!!!!!🎉🎊🎁🍻🍹🍷
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  Update on Australian Royal Commission - Proposed Redress

  by Pants of Righteousness in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  apologies if this has been posted previously, but this news item has appeared today regarding the proposed redress for abuse victims following the australian royal commission:.

  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-27/labor-pledges-payments-for-sex-abuse-survivors/6886864.

  what's interesting is that in january it was proposed that the federal government contribute almost half of an estimated $4.3 billion redress scheme.

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  Only problem is, the witnesses will take that action as proof of "satan's people touching Jehovah's eyeball" and sit there waiting for the Big A to happen!

  Good. Because it wont.
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  Goodwill stores: A gathering place for Jehovahs Witnesses.

  by Joliette in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently started working at a goodwill here in wisconsin, and i've never encountered more witnesses ever in my life.

  every time i go to work, i see at least two or three people that i used to go to the kingdom hall with getting suits, dresses, etc.

  some of them say hi, but some of them i just ignore, or they ignore me.

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  James Mixon11 minutes ago

  Reverend Edgar L. Helms of Morgan Methodist Chapel in Boston started

  Goodwill as a mission of his ministry in 1902. Please don't tell them

  they will have no where to shop.

  In fact Do tell them, they need to have a lesson in real Christian charity.

  I try to buy clothes and products from ethical companies and I think if witnesses are recycling more power to them - at least that's one posative thing they do!
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  Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

  was it the wts and all its crap?

  was it something you read?

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  The most basic philosophy course for starters

  The bible is utter giberish

  The cruelty of the natural world

  All earth religons'have created god in mans' image and with his behaviours

  evolution rules out the abrahamic religons

  If there is a god he's entirely 'hands off' & would not be intetested in our worship or he would be an egotistical needy type which is not possible if he knows even half of what humanity knows
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  Paranoia after today's Watchtower

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  boy oh boy did i feel paranoid at today's wt.

  not only are we to watch our associations outside of the congregation, but also watch our associations 'within' the congregation.

  this was emphasised by the wt study conductor.

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  Even in the Christian congregation there may be an environment or association that is spiritually not most helpful. Some who recently came out of the world and symbolized their dedication to God by water baptism may tend to bring into the congregation something that still clings to them—a measure of worldliness. Let us remember that it was to a Christian congregation that the apostle Paul wrote: “In my [previous] letter I wrote you to quit mixing in company with fornicators, . . . But now I am writing you to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.”—1 Cor. 5:9-11.

  This is a damning extract indeed.

  Firstly it cruelly & selfishly recommends keeping away from new recruits who may really need Christian love & guidance.

  Secondly it proves that disfellowshiping is not scriptural as Paul does not talk about forcing the 'idolator, drunkard,fornicatie, greedy person ' etc out of the cong but rarther to stop socializing closely with such people, actually not even shunning them as JW 's practice (ignoring).

  They were busy looking after “orphans and widows in their tribulation”

  I've yet to find a JW as individuals or congs who follow the direction of James and the 1st century Christians here.
  
  
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  Talking with a young elder

  by biblexaminer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i had a discussion with an elder recently.

  it was interesting in a macabre sense.

  we were outside the kingdom hall on a nice sunny day recently.

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  Lieu6 hours ago

  Meh, Paul was a bit whiny. "Woe is me in these chains for Christ!" No one wants to hear that all the time. Others were being fed to lions and whatnot. "Me, me, me, me." Besides, he genuinely belonged in chains; after all, he was a murderer.

  Gotta remember he was a spoiled rich kid. Who he studied with wasn't cheap & is still revered in the Jewish community today. Also, he was a single Jewish male with Roman citizenship.

  /\ /\ /\ oh yeah
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  Hello everyone!

  by Planetsmashers in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ive been lurking for a while and finally got around to registering.

  about me: i was essentially born in & indoctrinated from youth.

  i was always a borderline "bad association" type because i always did the minimum and always disagreed with much of what was taught; even when i was a child.. luckily for me my father was never a jw so i never had to endure the male head pressure.

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  Hi Planetsmasher, so glad you are free happy young & healthy now ...most of the time anyway, we all have struggles with out cult selves, I also believe that some people suffer from ptss, especially those exposed to the preassure, guilt & fear as kidd and young people.

  Be happy and an example to your neices and nephews & let them know you are there for them - they are still young, there is always hope don't give up!😉
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  Confronting Parents About 607 vs 587

  by breezy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just thought i would update you guys since my 1st post last week.i haven't been to the meeting for about 2 weeks now, and maybe have like 1 or 2 hours of service combined within the past 2-3 months.

  i obviously get the love bombing from relatives when they don't see you at the hall for a while.

  " we missed you at the meeting last week.

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  I think the book "The gentile Times Reconsidered "by Carl Olav Jonsson proves using the Bible that the destruction of Jerusalem took place in 586 bce.

  Jonsson was an elder who send all his extensive research to the WT. Their response is shocking & telling.

  Finky Baby I read somewhere initially Russell landed on 1915 with his calculations which was changed well after WW I to 1914. Am I right in this?
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  Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christians. It's impossible.

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  good morning.

  i was just checking out the forum and something occured to me.

  jws simply cannot be christians.

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  Diogenesister

  DD prospective fraternity members enduring a hazing, just for the chance to be a member.

  Never a truer word written!