Posts by Diogenesister

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Starting a 'Bible Study' - The Basics

by Joe Grundy in

i never was a jw.

i was brought up in a fairly fundie sect (pb) and have been for many years an interested atheist.

i am an admirer of the work of bart ehrman (and recommend his blog).. from time to time, jws call at my door and invite me to partake in a 'bible study'.

Diogenesister

I think the majority of JW's would know the language Jesus spoke and that the bible was written in, but the last names of Jesus and Paul? Wouldn't have a Danny. Unless it's a trick question and they had a system like the Russian patrynomic - so Jesus Josephus, for example?

Btw didn't know you where Plymouth Brethren!Very exotic!You must tell US more about it....similarities, differences that sort of thing.

Fully agree that these so called Bible teachers have very poor knowledge, but what can you expect when all their critical facillities are locked down...they are spoon fed only what they need to know to recruit more workers, no more no less.

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Crisis of Conscience - The Movie

by cedars in

i know... how cool would that be??!.

having just commented on the post by trailerfitter about the situation with his wife, and how i have personally found the book crisis of conscience by ray franz to be the perfect antidote to the society's perception of itself as being god's earthly organisation, the thought occurred to me: what if there was a movie about ray franz and his life?

obviously the society would be in uproar, and letters would be read out to all congregations all over the world not to go and see it, but just imagine!

Diogenesister

If you wanna do casting for looks, Ray Franz has to be played by Rusell Crowe

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Crisis of Conscience - The Movie

by cedars in

i know... how cool would that be??!.

having just commented on the post by trailerfitter about the situation with his wife, and how i have personally found the book crisis of conscience by ray franz to be the perfect antidote to the society's perception of itself as being god's earthly organisation, the thought occurred to me: what if there was a movie about ray franz and his life?

obviously the society would be in uproar, and letters would be read out to all congregations all over the world not to go and see it, but just imagine!

Diogenesister

Sparky1Hate to tell you this mate, but Alan Rickmans dead.

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Crisis of Conscience - The Movie

by cedars in

i know... how cool would that be??!.

having just commented on the post by trailerfitter about the situation with his wife, and how i have personally found the book crisis of conscience by ray franz to be the perfect antidote to the society's perception of itself as being god's earthly organisation, the thought occurred to me: what if there was a movie about ray franz and his life?

obviously the society would be in uproar, and letters would be read out to all congregations all over the world not to go and see it, but just imagine!

Diogenesister

I also think a good director would be Duncan Bowie, David Bowies son.

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Crisis of Conscience - The Movie

by cedars in

i know... how cool would that be??!.

having just commented on the post by trailerfitter about the situation with his wife, and how i have personally found the book crisis of conscience by ray franz to be the perfect antidote to the society's perception of itself as being god's earthly organisation, the thought occurred to me: what if there was a movie about ray franz and his life?

obviously the society would be in uproar, and letters would be read out to all congregations all over the world not to go and see it, but just imagine!

Diogenesister

I personally think the right screenplay could really make a film based on Rays life a real critical success. He was a very bave and principled man who gave up much lost potential to become a witness( as do we all), then at the end, when he had most to gain by remaining a witness, he left for reasons of loyalty, decency and conscience. He remained a Christian, don't forget. The public would love it.

And Matt Damon...absolutely.

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

Diogenesister

Notsurewheretogo Imagine a child needing a blood transfusion now to save their lives and the parents have just read that WT study article that the GB may get doctrines wrong. How can they obey them by refusing a blood transfusion when the GB MAY be wrong about their interpretation of the meaning of that scripture about blood?

You don't suppose those weasels are attempting to extricate themselves from potential lawsuits now that the Canadians are on to the pressure HLC's bring to bear on vulnerable patients. "Well they don't have to listen to us, we don't say we never get things wrong"

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Anyone else a fan of Red Letter Media?

by schnell in

probably my favorite band of cinephile miscreants on youtube is red letter media, which has, among other things, a series called "best of the worst".

they have a sub-series of that called "wheel of the worst," where a bunch of crappy old vhs tapes, either sent in from fans or added by the guys, are stuck to a plywood wheel and 3 of them are randomly selected for forced viewing.

here's the thing.

Diogenesister

Think some charity shop's doing a special on cult vhs's ?!(and not in a good Nosferatu, Rocky Horror way)

Those guys are hysterical.

Edit Bardamu "I was hoping so hard for the wheel to stop on it"

Maybe another time...let's request it !

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A sister at my door today

by careful in

i suppose it was just a matter of time till it happened.

i've faded, not been dfed or daed, for years now.

once they tracked me down and tried to reactivate me, but then i moved, and hopefully lost them.

Diogenesister

James, just a question. Have you actually told any of them not to call? Just that it seems to me they are so desperate these days unless you specifically requested a DNC they wouldn't necessarily stop coming no matter what you told 'em!

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New movie by Mel Gibson 'Hacksaw ridge'

by barry in

jw
friends

i just went to a pre screening of this movie about an adventist guy who didn't want to kill but joined the army as a medic on the front line.

desmond doss saved 75 men in one operation singlehanded on the island of okinawa where desmond worked lowering men down a 400ft cliff to safety.. i thought this may be of interest to jws because of the pacifist stand they also have.. the movie comes out on the 4 th november..

Diogenesister

Dying to see it. Lucky you!

Edit would bible students have joined the Ambulence corps or equivilent back during the Great war?I'm thinking yes, would I be correct?

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Petr Muzny: A Law Professor Explains His Faith

by konceptual99 in

this is absolutely feckin' priceless.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/videos/viewpoints-origin-of-life/petr-muzny-law-professor/.

in yet another appeal to authority, jw.org has trotted out a professional to vouch for creation.

this guy is a law professor.

Diogenesister

Not to be unpleasant but this guy's no "law professor". In French un profeseur is merely a teacher. Ok he has a PhD, that May make him a Dr of Law, but not necessarily a professor. Where does this dude teach? It could be an adult education institute, the local community college as you Americans call it. Not putting anyone down who is a teacher, where ever they teach. Just saying. it's not beyond most people's Ken, given the time and money, to get a PhD. It certainly doesn't make him an "expert" in evolution.

But even a teacher at high school, teaching logic, would not make such a poor analogy ....effectively he used the old watchmaker on the heath and turned it into a bench in a forest. It's been utterly debunked by philosophers long ago. How can an expert in logic not know an undergrad example such as that.

I reckon he fell for one of his JW community college students ...and had to convert to marry her.well that's my story and I'm sticking to it!