Posts by Diogenesister

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Does anyone here want to be saved or have the urge to worship?

by Half banana in

i don’t know about any of you but does anyone else share my lack of impulse to worship anything?.

i became a jw when still at school and had been puzzled at the time by the posters outside of evangelical churches telling me to repent and come to jesus and be saved.. for me it was an irrelevance, i never felt like being saved...what from?

i was happy as an exploring type of child, i never knew of anything wanting to be worshipped and i didn’t need to worship anything either..

Diogenesister

I never truly understood the whole "worship" concept anyway. It always felt an odd thing for a highly intelligent being to require of us anyway. What exactly does worship entail? Doing what it asks? We do that for many people/ govts etc. Praying seems more or less a long list of demands and requests. Hymns? Well we enjoy music anyway usually.The bowing (done in prayer) is just a ritualised form of greeting a superior we continue in Japan, until recently in Germany and still when greeting royalty.

What is it about worship that differs from what we do in our lives anyway?

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A question to Non-US forum members.

by Spoletta in

now that trump is on his way to making america great again, will you consider moving here where you can get the best healthcare and education that anyone with a lot of money can buy, plus the ability to buy all the guns you need to protect yourself?

and it gets better!

if you are caucasian, you need never worry about discrimination.. am anxious to hear your replies.

Diogenesister

Average Joe I would have to agree with you but I'd add one point. The people are a definite plus point, nicest people in the world...and the health care system ( or lack)is absolutely terrifying.

However this home-state free university education for those who can't afford - if I understand that a arite - is great. In fact it seems to me in comparing the two an American education seems pretty damned good.

Perhaps someone from the US can confirm or deny, as they say?

Also Rainbow_troll why not try sunny Scotland...another place to get a free university education with the added advantage they speak your language ( well...usually LoL!!)

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Lots Of Whining And Complaining About Us JW's

by Deaconblues1914 in

in reading these posts, it sounds like a lot of you are very jealous of the wt.

society’s annual income and the money they/we have in the bank.

jehovah has indeed blessed us.

Diogenesister

Deacon blue I'd put money on you being a Scotsman. Only Scotsman have a lifelong obsessive DEVOTION to rubbish bands from the land of their birth like yours and " the wets" LoL!

Also I'm pretty sure Doubtful1799 means 40 years since his BAPTISM which would probably mean he's served longer than you or similar since back then they didn't baptise young kids. And you are definitely no older than 50.

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February 26, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Witnessing in Public Places

by wifibandit in

february 26, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: witnessing in public places.

and.

february 25, 2017 to all congregations re: magnetic boards and posters for public witnessing.

Diogenesister

Apparently there are JW's who do not enjoy nor promote god relations with others.....amazing.

Freudian slip Menrov!

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When Our Calendars Were Something Else

by compound complex in

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friends

remember this?

it was one of my first assignments, at bethel:.

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Diogenesister

The one good thing they produced and they stopped producing them! I was going to say I got my paws on the last one 2016 although I've been out for years. Little peccadillo of mine.

Compound Where else have I seen that picture it is so familiar. Not on a calendar wasn't around in those days CC

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THIS Is How Muslim Mother “Fixes” Rape Of 2-Year-Old Granddaughter By Grandfather

by Hecce in

saw this dated 2/26/2017, seems to be from 12/2015.. .

even in a religious culture that advocates the murder of victims as honorable, fathers and brothers are typically the perpetrators of horrific violence against female family members whose only crime was to be the victim of another, the killing of a child by its mother stands out as particularly unnatural and depraved.such a heinous act occurred recently in sohag, egypt when a mother of a two-year-old child took the life of her child rather than protect it from violent sexual assault by its own grandfather.. a muslim mother identified only as “merfat” was awakened by screams in the middle of the night and found her father, faraj, in the act of raping her daughter.. .

rather than acting out of a natural, protective instinct, the 23-year-old mother chose to shield her father from scandal as taught by muslim theology and sharia law.. merfat told authorities that she took her daughter, little grace ahmed, from the grandfather, placed her in a tub and held her head under water until the child drown.. alik akhmim, chief detective of the police in sohag told egyptian reporters that “traces of blood” had been found in the little girl’s anus, evidencing the degree of force and injury the child endured at the hands of her mother’s father.. this kind of act is referred to as an “honor killing” thought to place the reputation of the family above that of any individual member, and which is used to punish the victim rather than hold the perpetrator accountable.. murdering rape victims is common in countries and communities that adhere to sharia law where the crime is rarely reported for fear of exposing the family to shame.. “honor killing” is no longer limited to predominantly muslim countries or the middle east.

Diogenesister

t's reprehensible, but is being dealt with as crimes by the authorities, and should be prosecuted harshly. Hopefully, it will die out as the younger generations begin to assimilate into the general population.

Sadly most of the child grooming rings in the north of England are 2nd and 3rd generation Muslims. Huge Muslim communities have been around here since the late 1950's and early to mid 1960's.

I'm not specifying where the honour killings stem from, merely stating it has been a problem for some years.

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Sister at Kingdom Hall visibly upset "they took jehovahs name out of song"

by hoser in

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i went to meeting today and the sister in front of me was upset song 134 now song 139 no longer contains jehovahs name.

they took it out.

i never even noticed .

Diogenesister

Why didn't they do

"Thank you, Jehovah, for all you have done"

I can see how "how well you have done!!"

Sounds very patronizing though!

I heard a few recent prayers, too, that kept giving so much glory and praise to the Governing Body.

Really it's quite sickening...The elders go ON AND ON AND ON thanking the GLORIOUS ONES, the govbod, with a quick mention of God at the end. Anyone else notice that change recently??

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JWs and legalized Marijuana

by jws in

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i know this was probably covered before in some post, but i was curious.

what is the jw stance on recreational marijuana use in the states where it has been legalized?.

i would suspect smoking it, like cigarettes, would probably still be against the rules, but there are ways to use it that aren't damaging to your lungs.

Diogenesister

NotenoughwhiskeyImagine the mass exodus if they banned alcohol?

Forget bunker paranoia...now that would be a test of faith!!

Orphancrow Wow I had no idea jw's suffered from high levels of GI bleeds. If they get varicies though they need a blood transfusion, no question. Many must die. Another dangerous blood statistic they keep under wraps.

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JWs and legalized Marijuana

by jws in

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friends

i know this was probably covered before in some post, but i was curious.

what is the jw stance on recreational marijuana use in the states where it has been legalized?.

i would suspect smoking it, like cigarettes, would probably still be against the rules, but there are ways to use it that aren't damaging to your lungs.

Diogenesister

Oh yeah I can see

Greeks ( boo hiss) = intellectuals = Pharmakia = Spiritism

Like

Masturbation =covetousness = idolatory

Yup...same cock-eyed logic So I can believe it!!

See: jwfacts.com on Masturbation

( more like mass- perturbation!

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Bethel Library moving to Warwick, are older items 'vanishing'

by Lostandfound in

in a post re dates etc from fatfreek reference was made to huge library at bethel with items dating back to pastor rs day.

like the year 1975 which has vanished from wt theology, are gb using move to let them put all old and inconvenient items into some sort of cold storage and off library shelves.

already the revelation book has gone from the orgs website, and that was quite recent relatively, we studied it 3 times at congregation book study, yet now, like type and antitype it mysteriously was never there.

Diogenesister

LostandfoundI think you have a very good point. They had no worries offloading the old folks before the move to Warwick...don't want them making the place look untidy, do we? I wonder if they'll "loose" a few old text books on the move over, particularly the more embarrassing ones. Oh I know there are other copies, but those are in the 'world' and verboten to the faithfull.