Posts by Diogenesister

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"exjws" and money making Ponzi schemes.

by Thisismein1972 in

ok i want to pose a question to those who care to discuss this.. imagine a scenario.

you hear of a exjw writing a book, however, before writing this book this exjw is requesting money to publish said book.

you go along with it and help to get this book out to the public as you think that it will be beneficial.

Diogenesister

Newly Enlightened Please explain how money will help Deborah Do get Crises of Conscience out faster. Please.

People have offered to edit the book and a publisher offered his services free of charge.

I thought the issue was health. How much does she need? A breakdown on go fund me is ALL it would take and believe me shed have all the money she requires.

Please can you fully explain or else admit you were wrong about this one situation. Nothing wrong with believing the best of people. People on this forum DID send money, but have received no explanation as to what's happening.

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Out of the world, into the Truth

by apalro in

for some background - i studied on & off as a child with a jehovah's witness who has been patiently working on lots of our family for more than a decade and never gave up on any of us.

as a middle-schooler and a highschooler, my love for jehovah and any association with my childhoood bible teacher... faded.

disappeared.

Diogenesister

Scratchme 1010 the only thing I would say;add a caution if you like, is that this forum is called Jehovahs-Witnesses.net and folk may, and often have, assumed it is for practising Jehovahs Witnesses only. So she is not necessarily a troll.

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I'm so confused, help?

by Ponyo in

i want to share my story.

(might be a tad long).

i have no idea where i stand anymore regarding being a jw and where i stand in my marriage.. im 28 years old and the years are certainly ticking by.

Diogenesister

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restorationism

Have a look at this wiki article on how your Faith began, where it descended from, know also there are many jw splinter groups, contrary to Watchtower claims. Please, please have a look at jwfacts.com before you make any decisions.

I also want to leave you this poem, it's called the cloths of heaven by w.b.Yeats."Tread softly because you tread on my dreams". I will post more later....but please don't rush into things, and know the GOD of the watchtower should play no part in your decision making because he does not exist.

Had I the heaven's embroidered cloths,
Enwrought with golden and silver light,
The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
Of night and light and the half-light;
I would spread the cloths under your feet:
But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.

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Facing Existential Dread

by Brokeback Watchtower in

the watchtower corporations main appeal is a everlasting life, this makes it possible for one to avoid existential dread.

this type of anxiety is a part of the human condition, and it explains the appeal of many religions to the human condition as it offers some relief from the anxiety about our life ending.. psychologist show the importance for facing this dread/anxiety.

my feeling is that the more you can accept the fact that your life is very very temporal, the better you will live your life as you accept that you are very temporary and try to live life to the full and not be duped by religions appeal to calm this anxiety.. https://www.calmclinic.com/anxiety/types/existential .

Diogenesister

Thank you Brokeback Watchtower I love Woody Guthrie he calms me and makes me feel at peace like no one else. Which is funny since he's so mad with the world and cynical half the time!

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Facing Existential Dread

by Brokeback Watchtower in

the watchtower corporations main appeal is a everlasting life, this makes it possible for one to avoid existential dread.

this type of anxiety is a part of the human condition, and it explains the appeal of many religions to the human condition as it offers some relief from the anxiety about our life ending.. psychologist show the importance for facing this dread/anxiety.

my feeling is that the more you can accept the fact that your life is very very temporal, the better you will live your life as you accept that you are very temporary and try to live life to the full and not be duped by religions appeal to calm this anxiety.. https://www.calmclinic.com/anxiety/types/existential .

Diogenesister

I have that dread in bucket loads.

But it's pavlovs dog with me, I'm come close to death a few times ( I actually did stop breathing this year and ended up in ICU). But I am only just 50 and I have young children...I also wasted much of my life being controlled by a religion and a god who never existed.

I finally come to the realization religion plays on this fear and uses it to control people. Its absolutely true.

People were more religious when they are poor and or live in precarious environments and death comes at any time.

The young of the 1st world don't fear death as it's so far away from their every day experience.The elderly become tired, they reach their peace when they know death is inevitable. Being a nurse I have seen the fear of death is so many eyes.

I have some older family members who used to tease me for being religious. Now, in their early 70s they start attending church. Hypocrites. The older I get the more of an atheist I become....when I see how unfair the world is. I defy any GOD who has allowed this to happen to judge ME.

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The boys in Pennsylvania- The real power behind Watchtower

by UnshackleTheChains in

i am quite interested in something mike and kim said in their video when talking about why their you tube videos are being taken down.

in their video below, at around 35 seconds.

mike say's that he has being trying to tell people that the boys in pennsylvania are the real power behind watchtower - not the governing body?.

Diogenesister

These men are also the ones making big bucks in the form of wages/and or dividend pay-offs on investments.

I note that William Malenfant has been on JW Broadcast , I think a couple of times.

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Out of the world, into the Truth

by apalro in

for some background - i studied on & off as a child with a jehovah's witness who has been patiently working on lots of our family for more than a decade and never gave up on any of us.

as a middle-schooler and a highschooler, my love for jehovah and any association with my childhoood bible teacher... faded.

disappeared.

Diogenesister

Please look at jwfacts. Com

If it's the truth you've got nothing to loose right?

Except it's a cult that prays on the young vulnerable and unhappy....and you fit the bill. Everything you've achieved has been YOU 100%. If you think god helped you pass a driving test but that same god let 40 Phillipino jws in a Kingdom Hall die getting swept away in a typhoon, what does it make that God? Or the other millions of praying suffering hungry children?

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Are there any KH in Israel????

by James Mixon in

curious , i was thinking about serving where the need is great..that would be a hard sale, that would be like me setting up a lemonade stand at the gate of a kkk rally...

Diogenesister

See this JW getting what for from a Rabbi in the STATES let alone Isreal. Tells jw that they've got gods name wrong!

https://youtu.be/ILOXsXVzPw4

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Happy 1st PIMO Anniversary To Me: A Look Back

by neat blue dog in

it was just about a year ago exactly that i really and truly decided in my mind where i stood and as rutherford would say "face the facts".

before that, there was a period of about two years where i almost felt like i had a dual personality, vacillating between pro and anti jw, a very confusing, draining mental state to be in.

and it all started over seven years ago in 2010, when i read "apostate" material on the internet.

Diogenesister

Happy PimO birthday to my apostate sister with my favourite name:

Neat Blue Dog

Always wanted to ask where the name idea came from?

Edit: love uncle punks name for you: Neatster. ...punkys such a 70s kid, I can just imagine him at school with his mates, all with silly nicknames!

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Only 144,000 saved in 2000 years?

by LevelThePlayingField in

so i phoned an elder in the cong and asked him: "when did the calling for the great crowd start, was it 1935?

he said, "no, i think i remember a convention talk about 1950.

" so anyway, i said, "so then let's say in the 20th century right?

Diogenesister

Simon2 years ago2 years ago

I think some estimate well over 200,000 early Christians were martyred.

The WTS decides that a large proportion of those must have been fake and died for their fake beliefs.

But all their guys now are 100% legit. Yup.

Yup. I think Nero martyred 40,000 in one purge alone.

But if you happened to be at a conference at Cedar Point, Ohio in 1929 you're automatically in, no matter if your the biggest sod out there.