Posts by Diogenesister

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A deeper examination of The New World Translation

by Terry in

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Diogenesister

Scholar I'd be interested to know your thoughts on Hebrews 2.9

So we all know Watchtower does not consider Jesus to be God. So one would think they would take any and all opportunity to translate the Bible to reflect this dogma, as indeed they are want to do.

However, it's pretty established that Hebrews 2.9 originally read "ASIDE from God" instead of "by the GRACE of God".

Watchtower translates it as "by the undeserved kindness of God" which we all know is Watchtower code for "by the GRACE of God".

This, to me, proves that the men who published the NWT were NO Bible *scholars.

In that they resort to inserting words not originally in the text, a rather clumsy attempt to prove Jesus is not God, rather than researching and translating the *genuine* areas where the Bible is very ambiguous on the subject.

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Total strangers are more loving than God

by pleaseresearch in

imagine this.

someone has been involved in a car crash or shooting.

total strangers usually rush to the aid of the victims.

Diogenesister

having a team of people who have trained long and hard and dedicated their lives to helping save lives

To be fair they are being paid bloody good money to do this AND get the acclaim, regard and power that has always come with the job.

Of course folks like St. John’s ambulance most definitely do what they do from altruistic motives.

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California Fires-Contact from elders

by SouthCentral in

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the fires have been hitting many areas of los angeles lately.

recently, i checked my home voicemail and noticed messages from several elders.

they were calling everyone on their “books” to ensure that they were ok.. i assume this is the protocol for a natural disaster.

Diogenesister

JP 1692 My wife and I spent the entire day Tuesday in our house waiting to see if we had to evacuate. We didn't, but we were ready with our car loaded with clothes, a "go bag" and other essentials just in case.

It seems to me Satan's good 'ol State cares more for the sheep than watchtower

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What was your favorite video game?

by LoveUniHateExams in

i've never been that big on video/computer games but i used to have a ps2 and my absolute fav game was star wars battlefront ii, released by pandemic in 2005.. you could choose to play as three different classes of soldier and fight for the rebels, the imperials, the republic or the battle droids.

as you played and gained points by killing the enemy, you could unlock a fourth and fifth class of soldier.

you could also play as a hero or villain - such as darth vader, luke skywalker, princess leia, etc.. there was something absolutely awesome playing as darth vader and cutting down or force-choking rebel soldiers on the tantive iv.. .

Diogenesister

Oh boy one of my sons was on the new one until 2 am last night he waiting for his brother to let him download it all day so...!!! ( they get two weeks off in autumn term)

Ok now I'm going to show my age.

The best game I ever owned was PONG. I had the original and I didn't know any other kids who owned it. I thought it was the most amazing thing ever ;)(my kids would say I am "Flexing" lol)

I got into Sega sonic when they came out. I'd get home from work and couldn't wait to have a go.

My favourite game now is Assasins creed Black Flag. And Telltales "The walking Dead"

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Do You Think Jehovah’s Witnesses Are A Threat To Any Government?

by minimus in

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russia believes they are a threat.

the usa has put witnesses in jail in the past.

other countries look at jws as a nuisance.. do you think the witnesses are a threat to governments?

Diogenesister

No. They are only perceived as subversive to dictators.

Anywhere folks have the right not to join the military or vote, in other words a democracy with reasonable rights and responsibilities, they are only a threat to the family unit.

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A deeper examination of The New World Translation

by Terry in

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Diogenesister

e: "their coming to know you: Or “their taking in knowledge of you; their continuing to know you.” The Greek verb gi·noʹsko basically means “to know,” and here the verb is used in the present tense to express continuous action. It may denote a process of “taking in knowledge about someone; getting to know someone; becoming better acquainted with someone.” It may also include the thought of making an ongoing effort to get better acquainted with someone who is already known. In this context, it refers to a deepening personal relationship with God brought about by ever-increasing knowledge of God and Christ and a growing trust in them. Clearly, this necessitates more than knowing who a person is or knowing his name. It would also involve knowing what that person likes and dislikes and knowing his values and standards. —1Jo 2:3;4:8.

Learning ABOUT someone (taking in knowledge of) and knowing or getting to know someone are completely different things.

I can “take in knowledge’ of Lady GaGa but it doesn’t mean I “know” her or I’m “getting to know” her.

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The only thing Jehovah gives Hurricane Dorian survivors is.....''the strength to cope with their difficulty and distress.''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

this article is from jw.org newsroom.

audioaudio download options historic hurricane dorian pummels bahamas.

hurricane dorian, one of the most powerful storms ever recorded in the atlantic ocean, made landfall as a category 5 storm on great abaco island in the northern bahamas on sunday morning, september 1, 2019. dorian is especially dangerous due to its slow movement, high wind speeds, and heavy rains.

Diogenesister

The only Kingdom Hall was destroyed (publishers all ok}

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 BWa ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!

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In Honor of Jimmy Olson October 31, 1973

by sparky1 in

in memory of jimmy olson, i have provided a link to his story below.

many who now post here are new to the forum and i felt it was necessary to honor his memory.

although i never knew him, his brother was my roommate for a time at watchtower farms.

Diogenesister

In memory of Jimmy 💐 My condolences to everyone who was a friend to him sparky , I know you always think of him on this day.

And all victims of suicide and the isolation this religion engenders still in

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Russian raid on 50 Jehovahs witnesses

by Diogenesister in

there has been a raid on a large jehovahs witness gathering in norilsk, above the arctic circle, according to the moscow times.. a building with 50 jws inside was surrounded by masked, armed special forces forces who burst into the building and demanded they surrender all electronic devices.. i'll link the article but it's obviously going to drive these witnesses deeper into the religion.

not to mention the images conjured up in the report are likely to be used by watchtower as more fear mongering, since its very much like last year's terrifying assembly videos where witnesses were huddled in a field and surrounded with similarly masked, armed men.. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/10/22/russian-special-agents-raid-jehovahs-witnesses-resort-as-crackdown-intensifies-a67855.

Diogenesister

Apparently they are pushing for one JW to get over 7 years in prison.

I mean this is exactly what Watchtower needs to up the levels of F.O.G.

One dictatorship riding roughshod over the human rights of the victims of another dictatorship.

And the poor sheep in the middle getting shorn by both sides.

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A deeper examination of The New World Translation

by Terry in

shorturl.at/ouakr.

Diogenesister

Scholar Your point? I did my undergraduate degree majoring in Religious Studies and Philosophy at Deakin University and a postgraduate Masters degree in Studies in Religion at the University of Sydney and i do live in Australia.

Your degrees in no way gives you expertise in either of the Biblical languages. Indeed your courses it dont even seem to require any Greek, let alone Koine or New Testament Greek. Im sorry I’m not being pedantic for the sake of it, it’s just you are dismissing the views of someone with specific expertise in Koine Greek on the basis of your scholarship.

However I do accept your point that this gentlemen’s religious beliefs may colour his understanding.

I recommend the you tube channel “Digital Hammurabi” with Dr. Josh, Megan and guests who, incidentally, state that Paul certainly had no conception of the Trinity and that it was a concept of the 3rd century on.