Posts by Diogenesister

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The Motive of the Governing Body

by jwfacts in

i have been quiet of late, developing other interests, happy that there are a whole group of people producing great resources.

however, i found some old emails from ray franz that promoted me to write an article that answers a question i regularly receive.

it is in regards to the motive of governing body members.

Diogenesister

Fantastic article, Paul. Very captivating reading....particularly your reminiscences of Ray. Ray holds a special place in all our hearts and we lap up everything he says, regardless of subject. But I think we’re all fixated on the topic of how much of it’s own BS the GB actually believes. It’s probably the number one thing your average exjw thinks about when contemplating our former religion....can they really still believe they are gods true org, whilst at the same time testifying at a Royal Commission into institutional child sex abuse??? How Is that even possible?!

I think Vidiot is right. When he says they are able to justify the chequered history of the org by compartmentalising incompatible beliefs.

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Has Anything Positive Come Out Of This Coronavirus Isolation For You?

by minimus in

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i guess you could make a case of more families being together although that might not be the best situation.

less cars and pollutants mean we can breathe better.

if you were ever uncomfortable in crowds, this could be good news.

Diogenesister

I doubt many if any will make fun of me using alcohol to sanitize everything now, like some used to.

Hey Caves! I use alcohol to sane-itize everything, too, especially me🤣

I’m also hoping this drives the cost of housing down too as the price of housing for the regular working class was unacceptable and had gotten to dangerous levels of inequality.

I fully agree and was hoping the same thing!! I’m hoping city life will seem seriously unappealing and that consequently people will not be prepared to pay outrageous levels of rents to sheister landlords and mortgages that young couples and those with ordinary jobs simply cannot afford. Meaning wealthy Chinese and Arabs buy up all the local housing stock for short term rent to businessmen and not for real homes!! Hear hear caves

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Has Anything Positive Come Out Of This Coronavirus Isolation For You?

by minimus in

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i guess you could make a case of more families being together although that might not be the best situation.

less cars and pollutants mean we can breathe better.

if you were ever uncomfortable in crowds, this could be good news.

Diogenesister

You look back on stages in your life and only realize later it was the best of times. My favourite moment was going to pick the kids up from school (which she would remind me to do!) and see her staring intently out of the window looking for "her people" to appear

They always say you’re often not aware of when you actually are truly happy.....but my life has not been easy so believe me I was fully aware that when I would pick my kids up from school with my dog by my side, all the regular dogs all lined up waiting for the kids, I knew it as the happiest time of my life. I had to wait until my 40s but it was worth it llol!!

Benefit of lockdown has been my siblings having time to speak with me lol. Getting to know what my kids are learning at school instead of having to wring it out of them!! And getting to know teachers better, secondary school communication with parents is usually appalling!!

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The Fundamental difference between Islam and Christianity

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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ever since i came out of the witnesses, i've become very political.. i've heard lots of arguments back and forth for many things.. in the u.s. there is the argument that it is "racist" to want to deny entry to muslims.

while there is freedom of religion, there is also the very valid concern of maintaining democracy and a justice system that is based on modern values.we as exjw's constantly quote the pew center for statistics on jw's such as: they are last place in the us for members of a religion that go to university, and second-last for poverty levels of members of a religion.

we accept those statistics and mention them as proof of how damaging the jw's are.now, let's use the same center for some very scary statistics on islam:http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/22/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/.

Diogenesister

Wow Anna M that was some smorgasbord of random historical links.

😂😂😂

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Simon's Board!

by Atlantis in

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the watchtower witch-hunters are still sending out subpoena's and closing down websites.

it is safer for simon, this board, and us if we send out internal confidential documents privately.. from time to time i will let you know something has arrived that you might want.

just send us a "pm" and we will give you the download links.. you do not need to include any personal information.

Diogenesister

If they’re targeting websites they must now be aware their main enemy is not Satan....but the internet.

And they’re not wrong!

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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

by Simon in

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this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

Diogenesister

everyone who made steps toward outsourcing things to China in the last 30-40 years with the sole decision hinging on $, always cheapest wins.

We need to get back to making things ourselves, everything, but especially critical supplies.

And we need to blame the right people for what is happening. That is the lying shits that are the Chinese Communist party.

There is currently a class action suit, suing the govt of China. The USA, Australian and British citizens involved. One lady has suffered devastating losses with 10 family members either dead or currently very sick.

i wish them all the luck in the world. This was no “accident” in a Wuhan wet market, half of the initial affected patients had zero connection with that market.

This is not incompetence. This is evil.

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My ExElder Best Friend Has Coronavirus

by minimus in

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this has been a horrible month.

my best friend’s wife just called to tell me that my friend had to be hospitalized due to severe coronavirus complications.

he has severe pneumonia, is put on a ventilator and is in a coma .

Diogenesister

Min I wish them all the very, very best. I don’t know them but they are in my thoughts. The most difficult thing to bear is this separation. It’s devastating.

I wonder why it seems to affect men the worst? Unless he contracted it first and was inflicted with a greater viral load.

iI think the term to use to help his breathing is “prone” its more facing downward on the tummy. Just an educated guess, though.

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Disunited States of America?

by jwleaks in

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recognizing that their states have one integrated regional economy, delaware governor john carney, new york governor andrew m. cuomo, new jersey governor phil murphy, connecticut governor ned lamont, pennsylvania governor tom wolf, and rhode island governor gina raimondo today announced the creation of a multi-state council to restore the economy and get people back to work.

this announcement builds on the states’ ongoing regional approach to combatting the covid-19 pandemic.. the coordinating group – comprised of one health expert, one economic development expert and the respective chief of staff from each state — will work together to develop a fully integrated regional framework to gradually lift the states’ stay at home orders while minimizing the risk of increased spread of the virus.. https://news.delaware.gov/2020/04/13/governor-carney-and-five-governors-announce-multi-state-council-to-get-people-back-to-work-and-restore-the-economy/.

meanwhile on the west coast:.

Diogenesister

Those powers include sidelining parliament and giving Orban the power to rule by decree indefinitely. The law would punish those who spread false information about the pandemic with up to five years in prison.

Hungarians presidents new laws of ruling by decree indefinitely are frightening....

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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

by Simon in

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this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

Diogenesister

. although they really don't appear to be under much strain - many are less busy than usual and nurses have time to do dance routines for social media posts. In fact, the few times I've been in hospitals they have never looked busy - it's always lots of people sat around chatting, never like the TV shows.

yes funny my brother was recently in Addenbrookes and he said he’d never seen it so quiet. The ward was practically empty.

cancelled elective surgery notwithstanding, I think it goes to show how many consultations are not necessary, in particular many casualty and GP visits. Lets be honest all know someone among that minority who repeatedly badger their doctors unnecessarily!! (having said that I don’t doubt there are folks with serious conditions not attending when they should)

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Find the Beatles Songs in the Picture

by Simon in

some light entertainment ... there are apparently 39 beatles songs hidden in the picture, but depending on how to interpret some of them you may come up with more.. please post one each, to give everyone a go, and describe where the song is in the picture (so it's not just coming up with a list of beatles songs).

also, check for existing answers - i'll post summaries to show the ones already identified.. .

Diogenesister

O’ay I’ll do the obvious one, then.

Helta skelta

Did someone do that one? Sorry.

Glass Onion then.