Posts by Diogenesister

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2021-08-06--Cappuccino Please!

by Atlantis in

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when we scrub these letters we also rename them.

this one you might want for your records.

besides, who would turn down a free cappuccino?.

Diogenesister

hoser11 hours ago

I call bullshit on the 20,000 deaths as well. Statistically being one of Jehovah’s witnesses puts you at a higher risk for respiratory illness. Unless many had a secret cigarette smoking habit and never got caught.

The reason Jehovah's witnesses have a higher rate of respiratory illnesses (and I don't doubt a higher rate for heart disease, diabetes, osteoarthritis and probably certain types of preventable cancers) is explained by evolutionary medicine.

The problem is Watchtower's historical aversion to sports and any form of regular exercise that takes time away from the organization.

Exercise in youth lays down bone mass which is a preventative in osteoarthritis. Exercise helps prevent respiratory illnesses, heart disease and diabetes. Exercise and maintaining healthy weight lowers risk of some forms of cancer (colorectal, uterine and breast for eg).

I think, given their demographic, 20,000 deaths out of 8 million JWs sounds a more than reasonable number.

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Before you judge anti-vaxxers

by David.L.Henson in

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Diogenesister

According to Director Walensky, the only benefit from the vaccine now is presumably that it reduces the severity of symptoms.

But Vidqun when we say the vaccine "only" reduces severity of symptoms, what we're really talking about is death.The difference between having the vaccine and not having the vaccine is between feeling really ill and dying.

That's a pretty big "only".

However I'm not allowing my 15 year olds to have the vaccine. Particularly since they've already had Covid. So they're already carrying some immunity, which protects any elderly they may come in contact with. They are also super careful with hand washing, hygiene and mask wearing.

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I'm now turned off by this site

by purrpurr in

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in one form or another i've been a member of this site for almost 10 years.

in the past this was a great place for debate, news and support for ex jws.

i logged on several times a day and posted several times a week.

Diogenesister

Meanwhile Over at Reddit it's 95% total crap with stupid kids asking dumb question

You won't get any argument from me on that score.

There's absolutely zero freedom to express your views unless it accords with prevailing beliefs and even though those beliefs often do coincide with my own, it drives me mad that people can't express differing opinions!!

There's so many knee jerk responses if you even BEGIN to say anything positive about Jehovah's witnesses, even if it's A) True and B) almost totally unrelated to cult life.

For example I dared to suggest that I've known some damned good Jehovah's witness marriages (or ones that began as such) and that the basis for many worldly marriages are just as superficial as watchtower ones (ie lust, money, what kind of motorbike, music, job or tattoos someone possesses 😜🤣) and even though I assured them it was a big generalisation you would have thought I'd suggested that everyone get married by watchtower moonie style!!!

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Please how do someone become an Anointed Christian in Watchtower Organization.

by bola in

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please how do someone become an anointed christian in watchtower organization.

i informed my elders in my congo that i am an anointed christian..

Diogenesister

You just partake of the emblems at the lord's evening meal or what watchtower calls the memorial. Nuff said. If you're baptised they have to suck it up 😜

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2021-08-August-S-147-Announcements And Reminders!

by Atlantis in

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2021-august-s-147-announcements and reminders.

in english and german.

see number 10.10. experienced attorneys and paralegals needed: .

Diogenesister

Kimmy reads the important points here on the letters.

Only the elders get to read most of this and I find it incredible that they can't see Watchtower is now simply a Real Estate business. No doubt about it.

https://youtu.be/cM-f4m-1Ljs

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Jesus, without sin and a perfect human being ?

by smiddy3 in

how could he be, regardless of how god impregnated mary, as she was a sinful human just like the rest of us according to the bible.. mary was subjected to the adamic sin like all other humans, so jesus had to at least be part sinner himself.. to believe otherwise is just deluding oneself imho .. the only way jesus could have been really without sin is if god created him the same way he created adam.. what do you think ?

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FFghost

The Catholics figured this one out many centuries ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaculate_Conception

Why bother making Mary free of original sin? If God can do that, Why not get straight to the point and just make Jesus free of original sin? It's just not logical!!

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David Splane's apostate warning convention talk

by neat blue dog in

i know this recent video has been talked about already but i just watched it and here are a few things that got me annoyed as usual:.

splane says that if a bible student says he saw some negative information from apostates and asks us to explain it, we shouldn't look at it or address anything specifically, but instead we should tell them to go to meetings and hear what we have to say about ourselves and also tell them to befriend people at the hall.

for any person with integrity and/or intelligence, this is not a satisfactory answer.

Diogenesister

Psalm 32:9

Do not be like the horse or the mule, which have no understanding but must be controlled by bit and bridle or they will not come to you.

Great scripture to read to a JW Asp59 !

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David Splane's apostate warning convention talk

by neat blue dog in

i know this recent video has been talked about already but i just watched it and here are a few things that got me annoyed as usual:.

splane says that if a bible student says he saw some negative information from apostates and asks us to explain it, we shouldn't look at it or address anything specifically, but instead we should tell them to go to meetings and hear what we have to say about ourselves and also tell them to befriend people at the hall.

for any person with integrity and/or intelligence, this is not a satisfactory answer.

Diogenesister

Re: the Texas abuse lawsuit

Why are two Kingdom Halls listed as defendants, yet not these eight men. I am, however, really glad they state the it was the Governing Body who did Not report the abuse to authorities and that they were reached out to for comment. Unlike the elder, the GB get to hide behind a wall of heavy security and a wall of expensive a$$orney's.

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Statements or Comments Made By JWs That Were WRONG

by minimus in

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jehovah’s witnesses claim to be the only religion that has the truth.

they claim to be representing god himself.

can you think of anything that you could use to prove that the witnesses do not have the truth?.

Diogenesister

Jehovah's Witnesses sometimes get details wrong that are not essential to their faith (Like what an equinox is for example) but this does not fall into that category.

Hi TD I just wondered how they got this wrong. I'm guessing it may be connected to how they date the memorial?I know it may be quite complex, so maybe a link to something? Thank you!

As a faithful Witness serving as a Ministerial Servant who was given every privilege possible I was rejected by Witnesses because my father professed to be of the Annointed.

Hi truth_be_known If you want to could you explain what you mean please? Again if it's something you're comfortable to go into and won't identify you too much

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Statements or Comments Made By JWs That Were WRONG

by minimus in

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jehovah’s witnesses claim to be the only religion that has the truth.

they claim to be representing god himself.

can you think of anything that you could use to prove that the witnesses do not have the truth?.

Diogenesister

Min Dio please explain

The Golden Age (now Awake! Magazine) claimed that the medical profession descended from "Satan worshipping Shamans" and that that it was disease itself that caused germs, not vice versa. Just one item among many in a long list of quack ideas was the following:

"Disease is Wrong Vibration. From what has thus far been said, it will be apparent to all that any disease is simply an ‘out of tune’ condition of some part of the organism. In other words the affected part or the body ‘vibrates’ higher or lower than normal. . . I have named this new discovery . . . the Electronic Radio Biola, . . . The Biola automatically diagnoses and treats diseases by the use of electronic vibrations. The diagnosis is 100 percent correct, rendering better service in this respect than the most experienced diagnostician, and without any attending cost.” (The Golden Age, April 22, 1925, pp. 453-454).