36 publisher's were present in the hall with another 25 via zoom.
RaymondFrantz It was the police chief that said they thought the man suffered from a mental illness. Just reading excepts from his book and website makes that fairly plain, I think.
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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By everything I've read this man was severely mentally ill.
Any other religion would probably have seen the signs and referred him to mental health specialists etc. JW elders just disfellowship him for "apostasy".
Of course it's horrific and unconscionable. I'll get berated for saying this but I really do think the absurd obsession with sticking to "policy" rather than doing the compassionate thing has resulted in an absolute tragedy. Maybe this man was able to completely hide his mental illness from the elders, but I *very much doubt it*.
I'm not blaming anyone personally. I do think watchtower policy may have played a role.
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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I noticed the death toll rose to seven. Probably a victim refusing a blood transfusion. I hope if any are found unconscious the surgeons and paramedics administer blood before the HLC arrives (not sure if they function in Germany - aren't there a few countries which don't allow it?). I'll probably get slated for saying that but there it is. I don't want them to die so sue me.
How bloody awful. Of course Watchtower will be delighted to use this for propaganda purposes, completely taking any focus the publishers might have had toward the child abuse news away and reinforcing their persecution complex.
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How Many Masks Will You Wear?
by minimus inthere are recommendations that we should start doubling up on masks.
some have even suggested that tripling masks would even be better!
what’s your opinion of wearing numerous masks?
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Well Minimus, me dear old mucker .....sadly you may be no longer with us, but you were right about this one. The research is in - and the bloody things are useless.
Well I was told that in nursing school 30 years ago🙄Even the paper surgical ones are only good for three minutes then the moisture from your breath makes them useful to stop the surgeons false teeth from falling into an open wound, and not much else.
My old obsession hand washing and social distancing were only ever the really effective actions we could take to avoid getting, or giving, viruses including COVID.
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Why are people being born without wisdom teeth?
by Fisherman insometimes people are born with deformities but is the human body adapting to modern world with biological changes?.
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Me!!🖐️🖐️👋[hands up waving frantically at the back]
One of my kids also doesn't have them, one has the two upper☺️
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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Im amazed they haven’t scrubbed all those covid updates yet. These will not age well.
Does anyone think it's possible that some of the JW doctors at headquarters read research papers on COVID vaccine efficacy, side effects, efficacy/controversy around mask wearing, natural immunity etc and raised questions about the GB mandating this stuff? Perhaps Anthony being a paramedic was the main advocate mandating the vaccine for all permanent staff? Now some of the facts are coming out Watchtower bigwigs feel it raised the wisdom of so readily following Satan's system... with the GB wondering if Anthony still has Jehovah's holy spirit?
Especially if there's been any "incidents" reported to them around alcohol?
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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Maybe he decided his own pants were too tight?
Now that did occur to me 😂
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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Two days ago, a reliable source, who has connections to personal acquiantances of AMIII told me the real reason: Health issues.
The thing is "health issues" really does cover a multitude of things, these days. Alcohol issues definitely comes under the rubric of "health issues". Even a clash of attitudes, if the GB decide to put the disagreement down to "stress"- and we know how good at compartmentalizing JWs are. Any perceived erratic behaviour can easily be attributed to "stress" and therefore be passed off as a health issue.
I still say that Anthony Morris is very likely a poorly controlled diabetic (and they are prone to do some very bizarre things...such as removing clothing etc). It's possible there was some inappropriate incident triggered by extremely low or high blood sugar. Now that's definitely health.
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My fade story - how it all started
by Gorb inin the 90's my fading begun.
it had a great impact on me, and took a lot of energy.
later on it gave me a much better life, also for my wife and children.
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Gorb some of what you wrote I'm not familiar with - especially the France stuff. Is Johan Wrobel's website in German or Dutch?
What happened with Watchtower and Aid Afrique?
Very interesting! It's quite something to have four generations in Europe (especially As I'm guessing you're at least in your late forties/fifties?)
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Which sounds crazier? Tibor living there and Lloyd killing two birds with one stone by having a dedicated flat and allowing Tibor to live there as part of his compensation? Or Lloyd paying for an empty flat with only the studio section and toilet facilities being used regularly?
Yup. If Lloyd is pleading poverty but paying for his own pad and a two bedroom flat just to record in a few hours a week, not requiring anything more specialised than four walls and a roof - his own bedroom would suffice (...on second thoughts..maybe not🤔) then he's more of a fool than I thought. I think it's more than a fair bet it's Tibor's pad (except I think it always has been and Lloyds probably wangled it as a freebie from Tibor when considering a job cuts!!)
How do you know how much Tibor is paid? If it were that low I doubt hed stay.
I'd say it's difficult to get that all-important first job in any creative field these days, let alone the sticks in Eastern Europe?