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  'I have great freeness of speech toward you.' 🤐 But remember, Saint Paul never wrote that at Bethel.😉

  by was a new boy in

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  'i have great freeness of speech toward you.'.

  2 corinthians 7:4. i had snuck into bethel with absolute perfect timing, had been taught that armageddon was likely coming either in 1974 or 1975, probably in sept. or oct. .

  n h knorr invited me by letter, asking me to show up monday august 12, or was it the 19th?.

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  Fantastic post new boy and probably the most basic problem about this religion there is.
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

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  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  Probably in his easy chair today nursing his scotch and possibly teasing a grandchild.
  

  Lovely image ExBethelitepima but sadly he doesn't have any because his kids were Bethelites for many years. Do you know if Watchtower didn't destroy families (& prohibit having kids) I probably wouldn't have half the resentment toward them I do 😔
  
  
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  My favourite female protagonists: Ellen Ripley

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  and my next favourite female protagonist is ellen ripley, played by sigourney weaver.. ripley only just survived in ridley scott's alien (1979).. the sequel, james cameron's aliens (1986), was mostly about ripley overcoming her trauma from the first film.. she also ends up seriously kicking ass.. ripley is probably my favourite protagonist of all time.. the following clip is lovely.

  newt calls her mommy 🥰.

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  😂😜Love it LUHE.....carry on!!!
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  Thisisme Hee hee hee!!!👍
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  A Jehovah's Witness in a relationship with a non-Jehovah's Witness

  by KShelton in

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  my name is kevin shelton.

  my wife is a jehovah's witness.

  my two children are jehovah's witnesses.

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  ExBethelitepima I notice you have a 14 year marriage and a 13 year old son, you may not want to answer this but did you remain chaste before your wedding day?

  For goodness sakes that's cheeky, inappropriate (and frankly not relevant)!!! You say some proper off the wall stuff sometimes

  Kev Shelton I apologise on behalf of the forum.
  
  
  
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  Just read that Carl Olof Jonsson died yesterday

  by slimboyfat in

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  for newbies, who was carl olof jonsson?

  he was a jw in sweden who was challenged by a householder in the 1960s, who pointed out to him that secular history books don’t agree with watchtower that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, but instead place the event 20 years later.

  the reason the date is important is because it is the starting date for jw chronology which leads to 1914 as the end of the gentile times, and the beginning of the last days, as jws understand it.

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  The honest thing to do would have been to move 1914 forward one year to 1915 (is that right?) but that would have spoiled the coincidence of World War One beginning on their favoured date. Does scholar have an answer for that one?

  Slim I thought they did do that originally? Was it Russell? Someone had the date as 1915...then it was moved to 1914 because of the war?

  If they moved the date to 607 I'm sure they know it's utter rubbish. If they initially believed Jerusalem fell in 606, well...it fell in 606. The logical thing to do when you find out about the zero is to move the prophetic year to 1915. Surely that's the more flexible date?!

  Talking of prophetic dates, David Aspinall's video is very interesting here.

  https://youtu.be/_jdrBEgTLp4
  
  
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  "Look at the Artwork!"

  by FadeToBlack in

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  from the back cover of the july 15th, 2013 study edition.. "look at the artwork!".

  how many times have you said that to yourself or to others when you opened a new issue of this magazine?

  i didn't use the same wording, but needless to say, i was stunned.

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  Thom.M I sometimes wondered if the doctrine drove the artistry or the artistry drove the doctrine?

  Interesting.....!
  
  
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  AP NEWS - Charges put focus on Jehovah’s Witnesses’ handling of abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  https://apnews.com/article/jehovahs-witnesses-child-abuse-pennsylvania-investigation-01660ed00de1f2a02f87c0597c9ae0af?fbclid=iwar0f8whtbzsjnyzze0p3xg8t1qcprtvjh9wfe2zzryv1pnr-ospnejxri0o.

  charges put focus on jehovah’s witnesses’ handling of abuse.

  by mark scolforo and peter smith - yesterday.

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  Interesting that their own lawyer states the religion is no different to other religion's when it comes to child abusers within the congregation's.

  To a Jehovah's Witness that's about the worst thing anyone can say! It's as likely to wake them up as anything.....Jehovah's Witnesses are not special or different to any other religion!
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  Just read that Carl Olof Jonsson died yesterday

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. beliefs

  for newbies, who was carl olof jonsson?

  he was a jw in sweden who was challenged by a householder in the 1960s, who pointed out to him that secular history books don’t agree with watchtower that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, but instead place the event 20 years later.

  the reason the date is important is because it is the starting date for jw chronology which leads to 1914 as the end of the gentile times, and the beginning of the last days, as jws understand it.

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  Further, he overstated the case of VAT 4956 as providing solid evidence for the date of 587 BCE as an Absolute Date for the Fall of Jerusalem rather than the preferred date of 539 BCE for the Fall of Babylon advocated by WT scholars since 1963. A Semitic scholar and former Winess, Dr. Rolf Furuli has since published scholarship that shows that VAT 4956 can also be interpreted to prove a 20 year gap in the NB Chronology which supports 607 BCE rather than 586BCE or 587 BCE.

  Scholar This is taken from Ralf Furuli's Wikipedia page (I realise it may not be the best source, but I have read elsewhere that Furuli is no expert in the area he weighs in on here). Also, you can hardly decry Carl Olaf's scholarship, whilst calling Watchtower researcher's "scholars" in the same breath. Neither being qualified in the traditional sense.
  
  

  " In response, in a 2004 issue of Journal for the Study of the Old Testament, Lester L. Grabbe, professor of Hebrew Bible and Early Judaism at the University of Hull, said of Furuli's study: "Once again we have an amateur who wants to rewrite scholarship. ... F. shows little evidence of having put his theories to the test with specialists in Mesopotamian astronomy and Persian history."[14]"
  
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  Just read that Carl Olof Jonsson died yesterday

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for newbies, who was carl olof jonsson?

  he was a jw in sweden who was challenged by a householder in the 1960s, who pointed out to him that secular history books don’t agree with watchtower that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, but instead place the event 20 years later.

  the reason the date is important is because it is the starting date for jw chronology which leads to 1914 as the end of the gentile times, and the beginning of the last days, as jws understand it.

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  Thank you for the post Slim , . Beautiful eulogy for an incredible man. Rest in peace Carl Olaf, we all owe you a great debt of gratitude.🥀