Let's hope they accept the conclusions that law courts of other commonwealth countries have come to, regarding the absolute authority those 'taking the lead' within Jehovahs witnesses wield over children.
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New Zealand - JWs head to court on Abuse in Care Inquiry - RNZ news story
by EasyPrompt inhttps://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jehovahs-witnesses-head-to-court-on-abuse-in-care-inquiry-victims-feel-a-kick-in-the-guts/hwjsnshi5vfv7ghjztr63goseu/.
"by bill hickman of rnz.
the new zealand branch of the jehovah’s witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the abuse in care inquiry today.. in the high court at wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in new zealand.. abuse survivor advocate and former church elder shayne mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.. .
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Encouraging scriptures for the day
by Kosonen inhello my friends,.
here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.
revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).
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Farewell to this land's cheerless marshes
Hemmed in like a boar between archers
Her very Lowness with her head in a sling
I'm truly sorry, but it sounds like a wonderful thing"I say, Charles, don't you ever crave
To appear on the front of the Daily Mail
Dressed in your Mother's bridal veil?" Ooh, ooh, ooh
And so I checked all the registered historical facts
And I was shocked into shame to discover
How I'm the 18th pale descendant of some old queen or otherOh, has the world changed, or have I changed?
Oh, has the world changed, or have I changed?
As some 9-year-old tough, who peddles drugs
I swear to God, I swear, I never even knew what drugs were
Ooh, oh-oh, oohSo I broke into the Palace with a sponge and a rusty spanner
She said, "Eh, I know, and you cannot sing"
I said, "That's nothing, you should hear me play the piano"
We can go for a walk where it's quiet and dry
And talk about precious thingsBut when you're tied to your Mother's apron
No one talks about castration, ooh, oh-oh, ooh
We can go for a walk where it's quiet and dry
And talk about precious things
Like love and law and poverty, ooh-ooh
(These are the things that kill me)We can go for a walk where it's quiet and dry
And talk about precious things
But the rain that flattens my hair, ooh
(These are the things that kill me)
All their life, they make love and then pierce through mePass the Pub that saps your body
And the church who'll snatch your money
The Queen is dead, boys
And it's so lonely on a limbPass the Pub that wrecks your body
And the church all they want is your money
The Queen is dead, boys
And it's so lonely on a limbLife is very long when you're lonelyLife is very long when you're lonelyLife is very long when you're lonelyLife is very long when you're lonelyThe Queen Is Dead(1986) The Smiths -
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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Oh wow!
It's possible he may be sued (by the lawyer he named I presume?) Good!!
Actually the lady has confirmed that he at least believed what he said, though, which is interesting. Since I wasn't sure if he was lying or not?🤷🏼♂️
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Encouraging scriptures for the day
by Kosonen inhello my friends,.
here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.
revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).
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Queequeg They have scorn for their brothers of the right-hand path because their religions carry different labels, and somehow this animosity must be released. What better way than through "prayer"! What a simperingly polite way of saying: "I hate your guts," is the thinly disguised device known as praying for your enemy! Praying for one's own enemy is nothing more than bargain-basement anger, and of a decidedly shoddy and inferior quality!"
- The Satanic Bible
Indeed.
Proverbs 25:21/22 In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head, and the LORD will reward you.
I always thought that was a terrible concept....be kind to someone so that in doing so God will punish them? 🤨 How sinister!
If you were a good person it's therefore better to not be kind - so that God does nothing cruel on your behalf!!
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Encouraging scriptures for the day
by Kosonen inhello my friends,.
here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.
revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).
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Easy prompt that was kind of you to offer friendship like that.
Edit: Punky 🤣
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Are You Raising An Introvert?
by darth frosty inits not easy being an introvert in an extrovert worldespecially when youre a kid.
it is even more difficult if none of the adults in the kids life recognize that the child is an introvert.
this doesnt happen only when the childs parents are extroverts, but also with introverted parents who have never understood their own introverted nature.. .
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Nathan hi mate. ADD for me in my self diagnosed opinion
Although when my son was diagnosed with Asperger's, for part of the day the team of pediatricians and psychologists took me aside and questioned me about my son. So many of the questions they asked rang true for me, also, much more so than for my son, in many cases.
However trauma responses to ACE (adverse childhood events) mimic autism and ADHD & some who know me think it's the former. Hard to unpack if you've had an abusive childhood.
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Whatever happened to JW paedo Michael Porter?
by LoveUniHateExams ini remember reading about this guy in a national newspaper in 2010 after he had had his trial for child sex abuse.
porter avoided prison, despite being guilty of some acts child abuse.. the local elders defended him and were on his side and didn't df him, from what i remember.
then after an outcry porter was was df'd, and i think sent to prison.. anyone up-to-date on this?.
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Peter Bell, presiding overseer of Jehovah's Witness centre, at Kingdom Hall, East Barnet Road, denied media reports that Porter had ever been an elder there. He said: "The courts misreported the facts. Porter has never been an elder here and never will be. He will not be an elder anywhere.”
Yes Watchtower. Perhaps that's so. But only because of the "Worldly Outcry"....in fact Watchtower has only amended it's rules and mandated sex offenders no longer qualify to become elders because of the public's outrage!
Although the judge admits being too lenient initially, I would hazard a guess it was Watchtower who vouchsafed those "endeavours not to reoffend" - because we know abusers hide under Watchtower's veneer of respectability in these cases.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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Hey, Lloyd.
I was also raised a JW, and not allowed to have sex with anyone.
I left, met my lovely 'worldly' spouse, slept with and married them
Guess what?
I haven't cheated on them, I haven't paid any vulnerable people to access their bodies for sex.
👏👍👍Exactly Tamalam
Not to mention he met and married a beautiful, sweet natured woman who clearly loved him & had two little girls.
He doesn't know how blessed he is.
There are people on this thread, even, deeply grieving the loss of a beloved spouse would give the world to have back what Lloyd has right now. 😞
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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TOH The most effective liars are the ones who are convinced that they are being honest. Not about every detail, but about the overarching narrative.
Indeed. He's also a liar because he's a total a total nonsense merchant! His overall presence (especially his height), his even vocal tone and earnest delivery fooled people into believing him sober minded and reliable. Instead of the pompous, self indulgent fantasist he is.
And that's on a good day😒😂
Thisismein72I've been saying this for a long time, he has nothing that has not been said before by people who were far more intelligent than he ever was. Come on, this man decided to publish a copyrighted book.
Yup. He mostly used Paul Grundy's hard work on JWfacts.com as his source material. That's about as far as his own research has stretched. That and what he learned from JWdotnet.