Diogenesister

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  Alternative Military Service is Now OK

  by Sea Breeze in

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  but i wonder: how many jw's went to prison during the years that the wt did not allow them to perform community service as an alternative to military service?.

  anyone care to take a stab at the numbers?.

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  Diogenesister

  I knew some french JWs who were imprisoned for 2 years for refusal. Including one I knew pretty well and used write to in jail

  Terry on our board has experienced this.
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  JW Expanded Volunteer Activities?

  by doinmypart in

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  2. friends

  i think the gb needs to expand publishers' volunteer activities beyond door knocking.. gb has shifted away from door-knocking to more varied forms of witnessing and no longer counting time for publishers.

  my prediction is that the gb will start encouraging jws to participate in broader community volunteer efforts: clean-up drives, food banks, senior citizen support, and other non-proselytizing activities.

  this move could help them gain goodwill with government agencies and the public.. expanding volunteer activities could significantly shift how jws are perceived by the wider community.

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  I agree they need to come up with something seeing that world governments seem to be on to their worldwide Scam plcwork
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  Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  looks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.

  why don't the jw's do the same?.

  from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).

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  How did you get to that complex concept of hell in your head Sea Breeze??

  And seeing that you did, how are you so sure that you're willing to believe a loving God would design a system of such exquisite torture ??
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  Beautiful photos

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  so, i thought i'd start a thread about any beautiful photos of places you've been to, or just beautiful photos.. i'll go first .... .

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  copyright: daniel burton.. this is bøur, a little village in the faeroe islands, population 74.. i've never been there but i'd love to visit one day.

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  Do they have a connection with you?

  Married to one.

  Husband wants to know what school you went to. PM me if you don't want to say here.
  
  
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  Beautiful photos

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  so, i thought i'd start a thread about any beautiful photos of places you've been to, or just beautiful photos.. i'll go first .... .

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  copyright: daniel burton.. this is bøur, a little village in the faeroe islands, population 74.. i've never been there but i'd love to visit one day.

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  Diogenesister

  PeteBeautiful places, thanks for sharing. Most of our photos are printed. I've tried pasting them in the box but doesn't work.

  Pete take a photo of the photo? We'd love to see them!
  Bribie did you know anyone called Hume? A pilots family?(Not dubs)
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  Beautiful photos

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  so, i thought i'd start a thread about any beautiful photos of places you've been to, or just beautiful photos.. i'll go first .... .

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  copyright: daniel burton.. this is bøur, a little village in the faeroe islands, population 74.. i've never been there but i'd love to visit one day.

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  SlimThis is Bruges last year. Going again soon. It’s once of my favourite places

  Mmmmm I understand it has some of the best restaurants and reasonably priced for what they are.

  Boy would love to visit (went as a kid).
  
  
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  Do COs and Branch Officials Have A Rulebook?

  by NotFormer in

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  2. beliefs

  elders have a rulebook.

  do cos and their superiors have a similar written set of guidelines setting out everything they're supposed to be on top of?.

  what prompted the question was a statement by jehovax that there is a new elders manual coming out due to the new changes.

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  TOHThey all sound alike, though. Hung up on vaccines and 'JW Lite.'

  😂😂

  I'm guessing they use VPN's? Would a mod know if they were using one?
  
  
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  Elders or any higher ups at Bethel get paid?

  by TxNVSue2023 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i found this while googling.

  i thought elders and/or high rankers don't get paid.

  is there something i don't know?

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  Diogenesister

  Surely that is just their earnings from their secular job?

  If correct, these are surely earnings Watchtower professionals earn. Lawyers, doctors, IT specialists, accountants etc etc. As someone mentioned many of them have famillies and couldn't possibly support them on the Bethelites stipend.

  I believe these are the people at the top who really keep watchtower in business - ones for whom Watchtower's continued success as a business is really in their interest.

  The figures sound right for them, no?

  Another example are the JWs who run businesses/are contractors, with the organisation as their main customer. They won't be listed but will lobby on behalf of the org when required. They're not interested if "The STruth"©NF 2024 is the truth or not.
  
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  Is there really a Bible rule against sex without marriage?

  by Halcon in

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  regarding the poster from jw headquarters, who claimed that the gb would eventually loosen the rules regarding sex.

  the question is, is there really a bible rule explicitly prohibiting sex without marriage?

  because this would be the only possible reason why loosening those rules would even come up in a discussion.

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  Diogenesister

  Ancient rules around sex essentially evolved to protect human offspring, whether in patriarchal or (the admittedly few) matriarchal societies. Because human children require extended periods of devoted care in order to thrive. Both mother and child are vulnerable during this period, both from predation (animal & human) and from lack of resources. Since the mother has to spend so much time caring/nursing the infant it is difficult for her to meet her own nutritional needs without help. Example: most mammal babies can walk soon or even immediately after birth. Human babies can take up to two years to do so.

  This is why our family structures developed - with marriage at its centre. Even in modern times, with social welfare protections in place, a male who deserts his offspring faces censure by the community.
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  Open letter to all JWs

  by EdLogan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it is useless for you to contact me, i already know that according to the new update of the governing body, you can contact me.. but the problem is... you can only invite me to meetings, and at most say "hello" once i'm there.. i already know.. so, if you really want to know how i'm doing, even if it's irrelevant for the purposes of this contact, i'll tell you.. i am not well.

  i'm depressed and full of psychotropic drugs.

  of course, being isolated from everyone i knew and loved didn't help.. here's how i am.. and for a thousand reasons, there is no question of becoming an "associate" in the congregation again.. ergo, it's useless.. there's no point in contacting me, because that's the only goal.. it's not out of a rush of love.

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  Diogenesister

  What a heart rending letter.

  I feel for you. So many of us can relate. It seems to be the thing that exjws who have moved on and up after leaving. Who have left young, healthy, full of ambition and thrived out in the world, are interviewed publicly everywhere.

  Not so much those of us whose pain is such that we haven't. That's not so say our success stories don't feel pain because every damn one of us does and then some😡

  You have my sincere best wishes and empathy for what you're going through.