Diogenesister

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  Q about Jesus' sacrifice

  by oncebitten in

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  i have several jw family members.

  i have been shunned many years now.

  i was not baptized, but i was indoctrinated as a child.

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  Diogenesister

  May I ask Christians on the board, I once asked a Jew if there's any record of the temple curtain being 'ripped in two' during an eclipse around the time of Jesus crucifixion....he said no.

  Surely there should be a record of such a shocking event?
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  VERY NEW AT THIS BUT LOST IN SPACE

  by stephenlettclownface in

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  i apologize if this post ends up in the wrong place.

  i have been a lurker here for several years.

  i thoroughly enjoy this site, have for years, and read something or another on this site many times a week.

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  Hi !

  I thought I'd help out be saying:

  Your login name is stevenlettclownface

  You have a password but it's clearly stored on your PCs cookies and you've forgotten it. BUT you CAN change your password and write the new password down somewhere....make a note of it, so that if your phone /laptop/PC or whatever you're using konks out you won't be locked out of your account (unless Google sync has stored your password which may be the case)

  Great first post :)
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  Oompahh

  by Gorb in

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  summer evening in holland, just oompahh, our friend here at this board, long gone, crossed my mind.. did not forget him 🙏.

  g..

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  Diogenesister

  I didn't know him but I've read many, many of his posts. Gorgeous summer day across northern Europe. It's so fleeting....life. Ephemeral... It can be so beautiful, Why the pain???

  St. George of England my brother's a biker. Scrambler, too.
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  Materialistic and Soon

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  i was reading a bart ehrman book, .

  armageddon: what the bible really says about the end.

  no, i won't bore you with complicated various theories i was reading.

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  BB The stuff about living in nice places left behind by the dead always struck me as quite gruesome. But we grew up in a poor and downtrodden area, and the homes weren't ostentatious or in good shape. The thought of it all being crushed and buried would have been more to our liking. I guess that's just about as creepy.

  Yes...I wasn't born in a poor and downtrodden area but I was born in the UK and believe me, if any of us had mentioned that whole thing about inheriting worldly mansions it would have gotten us in the back room so fast our feet wouldn't touch!!😳🤯Maybe it was a British thing. Life was less materialistic back then anyway.

  In fact, despite our homes being modest, they were comfortable and homely and many of us were saddened we would loose them when everything worldly was destroyed. Even the treasures in the Louvre etc, let alone a 3 or 4 bed semi in the shires.
  
  
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  Vomit Eaters and Filthy Whores

  by Sea Breeze in

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  the watchtower characterizes christians not affiliated with the watchtower corporation as vomit eaters and filthy whores: .

  “how well they pictured the spiritual drunkards of christendom at the present time!

  besides actual wine and intoxicating liquors, there are other things to intoxicate the priests and preachers in christendom so as to induce drowsiness in them, to make them reel, to confuse things before their religious vision, to induce them to belch out the vomit of spiritually filthy things” - w59 3/1 pp.

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  They're certainly the most judgemental mofos, considering they are specifically commanded NOT to judge.
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  Leaked Info: Watchtower Received $497 Million From One Country (Britain) In Last Six Years! [Must Watch!]

  by Golden4Altar in

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  leaked info:watchtower received $497 million from one country (britain) in last six years!

  [must watch!].

  this video was just released with documented proof, see this link: https://jehovahstruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=187#p187.

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  NF I think one of the scandals about WT back in the day was that as a religion, they didn't have to pay property taxes on their Brooklyn Heights properties. Not sure if they were exempt from NYC rates/taxes/levies, whatever. Critics saw what everyone here knows: the WT was a tax exempt publishing company

  Interesting. Thank you!
  
  

  Having the WT move out of NYC was probably a huge boon to the city and the state.

  Yes actually didn't think of that, it's certainly a drain on local government and therefore local residents (ie other businesses that big would be paying large sums in taxes).

  Have you researched the finances of other denominations?

  Vienne, with the exception of cults, you cannot compare Watchtower's opaque and frankly dishonest business model with most religions, who do at least give back to their community and to that of the poor and disadvantaged worldwide.

  Watchtower donations are our business when those donating are being deceived (lies at convention's re: deficits ) and stolen from (Kingdom Hall snatches).
  
  
  
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  How does the Govering Body get enlightenment?

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from the earliest of times of the catholic church's ecumenical councils were used to make major changes to its doctrinal direction.

  decisions were made by bishops, they were ratified by the pope ... and it was done.

  and the laity had to accepted them or not.. and while splinter catholic religions accepted most of these councils, non-trinitarian faiths which developed latter (of which jehovah's witnesses are apart) did not.

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  The Great Replacement Theory ;)

  This seemed to be confirmed when almost all who were baptized after 1935 felt that they had the earthly hope. Thereafter, any called to the heavenly hope were believed to be replacements for anointed Christians who had proved unfaithful.

  This always confused me. Given that anointed ones by their very definition are unlikely to "fall" out of grace undeserved kindness, the number of replacements must have always been mighty small. Ok. Maybe we can accept there'll be a few (we did). But even in the 80s and 90s (when this theory was still believed by many) those numbers must have dwindled to nothing simply because all the anointed had mostly died.

  So how are there still being "replacements" created? And in such numbers!! Surely you have to be alive on earth to sin?! Or did this mean those with the heavenly calling were sinning up in heaven ??!!😳
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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff May 2024

  by DerekMoors in

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  time for this month's patreoff!

  the fat one's numbers seem to be leveling off a bit, but we all know someone with his gravitational pull can't keep up momentum for long.. i made up another chart and used 356 for april because that's where he was on the 2nd.

  also, this time last year was when he put out his "things are bad and i don't just mean what i look like naked" video and got a +187 bump.

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  Diogenesister

  Is there a thread for the next PatreOff yet?

  Derek said he's really busy with work this month & can someone else run it for June?

  I will if Toblerone5 can't do it. I think she's our natural for the job but I'm happy to if she's busy because she always does our charts so fabulously.

  Congratulations Ozzie the maths whizz!🥰😂🍷🍷🍷Nice Shiraz for you (Barossa?)!
  
  
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  Leaked Info: Watchtower Received $497 Million From One Country (Britain) In Last Six Years! [Must Watch!]

  by Golden4Altar in

  1. jw
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  leaked info:watchtower received $497 million from one country (britain) in last six years!

  [must watch!].

  this video was just released with documented proof, see this link: https://jehovahstruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=187#p187.

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  Mark W. It may be a relatively small amount of money, but it's currency permanently leaving my country for no benefit. Year after year.

  Yes all the cash ($30,000,000 annual estimate) flows to "Mother HQ". May explain why the USA govt isn't in a big hurry to curtail the shenanigans of it's (not a few) home grown cults.

  Ok they're not paying income tax BUT they're spending that cash on US businesses & other forms of indirect taxation (Ant Mo's Scotch bill?) . Also land taxes/council taxes etc, I presume?
  
  
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  Leaked Info: Watchtower Received $497 Million From One Country (Britain) In Last Six Years! [Must Watch!]

  by Golden4Altar in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  leaked info:watchtower received $497 million from one country (britain) in last six years!

  [must watch!].

  this video was just released with documented proof, see this link: https://jehovahstruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=187#p187.

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  Diogenesister

  It was estimated Watchtower earns 30 billion dollars per year in total donations (including legacies and share dividends etc) TAX FREE!