Diogenesister

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  Supreme Court ruling- refusing to photo gay wedding is discrimination

  by SadElder in

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  2. beliefs

  according to bloomberg news:.

  http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/wedding-photographer-rebuffed-by-top-court-on-same-sex-ceremony.

  "the u.s. supreme court turned away an appeal from a new mexico wedding photographer found to have violated a state anti-discrimination law when she refused to take pictures of a commitment ceremony for a same-sex couple.. the photographer, elaine huguenin, argued unsuccessfully that she was being unconstitutionally forced to convey a message conflicting with her religious beliefs.

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  Viviane Simply claiming that because the government COULD use force means everything they do is by force is the intellctual silliness of saying all men are rapist because they have the equipment to be a rapist, or that all women are prostitutes because they have the ability to be so.

  IOW, it's not true and intellectually vapid.

  What an absurd comparison.

  Viviane Absolutely untrue, see above. I highly doubt the threat of violence is there when you check a book out of the library or pay your car taxes.

  Library books are not the governments concern. Taxes are..you dont want to pay up, you with be forced to....threat of force constitutes violence ex vi termini
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  Some thoughts on guilt.

  by New day in

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  2. experiences

  had an interesting conversation with my wife recently.

  she struggles with physical, emotional and psychological problems which have often caused her to miss meetings.

  she mentioned how she is equally tortured by guilt if she misses meetings and ministry, and severe stress if she does them.

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  Diogenesister

  Dubstepped you are totally right...the org doesn't guilt you into doing more it shames you , guilt can on occasion be healthy shame never is.

  New day you could try looking up shame..and some ways to combat it. Mindfulness is another fantastic tool for combatting depression...and walking. Every day.And by the way I have known some wonderful elders who have had the most posative impact on my life, and I'm an atheist now but I'm still grateful - so don't worry about the past we can only do our best with the tools we have at the time.

  All the best.
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  I quit the Goodwill :(

  by Joliette in

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  2. friends

  i couldnt take seeing people from the kingdom hall.

  you guys wouldnt believe how many jehovahs witnesses shop in the goodwill.

  i couldnt take it.

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  Diogenesister

  Oh wow that must have driven you nuts. If the are shunning you it must have been agony. I'm so sorry. I hope you can find something else soon, the people that work there are usually great.

  Its funny all the different names we have for them.

  In the UK we call them charity shops and my New Zealand husband calls them op shops - short for opportunity.
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  My "best" friend (active JW) has just died

  by Terry in

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  2. friends

  johnny santa cruz and i met around 1959 at a movie theater in fort worth, texas.. the purpose of that meeting was to create a fanclub for horror movie director william castle.

  a week or so later, johnny stopped me as i was walking home from elementary school.. "hey--i think i know you.

  weren't you at the william castle fanclub thing?".

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  Diogenesister

  I'm sorry Terry...people think best friends are for primary school, the older I get the more I realize there are few joys like time spent with a best friend . Many condolences.
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  Swearing on the bible

  by Lost and adrift in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on the subject of truth.

  ..... i was always under the impression that one of the reasons jws couldn't do jury duty or go to court etc was that we were not allowed to swear on the bible.

  ..as in i swear to tell the truth the whole truth etc etc .

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  Diogenesister

  Smiddy Matthew 5:33-37 was used to support that belief ,particulary vs 37 which states

  " just let your word yes mean yes your no no for what is in excess of these is from the wicked one "

  Definatley Smiddy, in theUK 70s to 80s we were taught this very thing..no swearing or oaths period and definitely not on the bible..Blondie's quote is from 2003.. Tota!l about face from the GB
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  July 2016 W T Article Gives Reassurance to Aging Publishers

  by BluesBrother in

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  2. bible

  congregations are full of older ones who were led to expect the end when they were still young enough to work ,and stay forever young.

  now these ones face a sparse old age with little provision set aside.

  the article ""do not be afraid .

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  Diogenesister

  . You never see the unstable lady with the weird eye come in with an envelope and a note written in Hebrew

  You made me laugh with that one xjwsrock! Its so true what you say about Jah not providing that which couldn't logically be provided anyways.
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  New Light - Two Sticks in Ezekiel - July 2016 Watchtower

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
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  ezekiel 37:15-17 prophesies about two sticks being joined together to become 1. one stick represented the two tribe kingdom of judah and the other stick represented the 10 tribe of israel (ephraim).

  the article explains how the coming together of these two sticks meant the reuniting of these tribes in 537 bce.the modern day fulfillment was previously taught to mean that the anointed had once again come together in unity in these last days.the july watchtower now explains that one stick, the stick of judah, represents the anointed and the other stick, the stick of ephraim, represents the other sheep.

  they further explain that since 1919 god's people have gradually reunited to become one flock.they are now saying that the other sheep are represented by 10 tribes of israel.

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  Diogenesister

  The Listener his may just be one more step forward to eventually stating that the other sheep are members of the spiritual Israelites (and therefore in the New Covenant with Jesus as their mediator).

  
  This wouldn't surprise me as this is huge for most Christians and comes as a massive shock when they find out, or to JWs when it really sinks in or someone shows them from the bible that their current teaching is utter rot.
  
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  Trying To Leave - Im Going Crazy

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is my first post.

  i really feel i need to leave the jw's rather than go along pretending everything is perfect etc.

  no friends, me at work.

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  Diogenesister

  Mica that post should have its own thread...its fantastic and would be useful for many people. Might be worth a pm to pale emperor to make sure he sees it. You are so right about his poor wife too, I have great sympathy for them both. 😊👍
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  Satan & Disasters

  by Hadriel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  was told by someone that a receipt article eluded to the fact that satan can cause natural disasters.

  i don't see how i could have missed this.

  doesn't anyone remember this?

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  Diogenesister

  So why have they found dinosaurs with cancer...or animals fossilized in sediment very quickly...the victims of natural disasters, floods or volcanic eruptions..all this way before humans were on the scene...according to science AND the witnesses!
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  Disturbance during Memorial 2016.

  by Ben131895 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  two documented disturbances during memorial 2016. type 'memorial 2016' on youtube.

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  Diogenesister

  Hmmmmm...don't agree with lying to the brother...

  After all one of our primary issues with the org is that they lie...we can't be doing the same..