Posts by Diogenesister

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Why is Enoch referenced in the bible but his book omitted?

by Ursula in

why is enoch referenced in the bible but his book omitted?.

Diogenesister

SBF The book of Enoch is accepted... by the Ethiopian Orthodox Church.

I believe the E.O.C. accepts the most comprehensive list of apocryphal works. Interesting since it's the most ancient church.

I like the book of Enoch. It explains the real reason Soddam and Gomorrah was so reveiled. Apparently they did not follow the deeply venerated middle Eastern practice of HOSPITALITY. God became enraged when they condemned a daughter of Lott for rescuing a starving stranger in the town square. These were the crimes that cried out " clear up to heaven".

They gave no charity in the midst of their wealth, and had blood on their hands because of it.

Much like the WTBTS.

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So how did JF Rutherford function...?

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

every picture i have seen at him at beth shirim and other private places are with a bottle of alcohol.. while for me personally i couldn't care less anymore.... for jw's this is low moral character.

so i'm an going to guess he was a functioning alcoholic... how did that work with his closest workers?

was he gay too?

Diogenesister

Jaydee Is that you? Or anyone else on this forum?

Very interesting about the shipping manifest- that she definitely travelled everywhere with him.

Regarding the video: Absoltely facinating. He reminds me of Jack Nicolson, the way he talks! Nice looking guy I imagine the women are real lookers in the family!

People are Definately more forthright these days. Sometimes that's a good thing, though, as it's very easy to bury the truth when you couch things in flowery language.

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So how did JF Rutherford function...?

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

every picture i have seen at him at beth shirim and other private places are with a bottle of alcohol.. while for me personally i couldn't care less anymore.... for jw's this is low moral character.

so i'm an going to guess he was a functioning alcoholic... how did that work with his closest workers?

was he gay too?

Diogenesister

JWleaks I bet prison sobered him up a bit!!He looks mad as hell there...you just *know* what's going through his mind "Dang! hope I can bribe me some guards to smuggle some liquor in here..."

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So how did JF Rutherford function...?

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

every picture i have seen at him at beth shirim and other private places are with a bottle of alcohol.. while for me personally i couldn't care less anymore.... for jw's this is low moral character.

so i'm an going to guess he was a functioning alcoholic... how did that work with his closest workers?

was he gay too?

Diogenesister

I think it's partly because the cultural norms around drinking were different then (prohibition in parts of the USA notwithstanding). Also, remember he was very well off and from the upper middle classes and the rules are completely different for them.

Its like the old cliché of poor people are mad, rich people are eccentric.

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A Short Life Story - Part 1

by pale.emperor in

in the spirit of some great life stories i've read on here i'd like to share mine.

sitting comfortably?

good, then we shall begin.. i was born into a jw family in 1984. dad, mum, two sisters (twins) and two brothers.

Diogenesister

Were you me in trousers?? I was the kid that went to other people's houses for *their family worship* and I too would read those dang books ( including the insight books) as bedtime reading. I was also cripplingly shy and became a clown in order not to get too close to people.

I look forward to hearing the rest. Very enjoyable!

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Anyone recall someone disfellowshipped for gluttony???

by James Mixon in

gluttony seems to be a sin that jw's like to ignore .there are several scriptures that point out that gluttony is a sin, proverbs 23:20-21 "do not join those who gorge themselves on meat".....also i read somewhere that 1% is the number of disfellowshipped jw's each year......how do prove someone is a glutton and not just a person who love food???

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Diogenesister

Approximately 4 out of 5 citizens in Samoa, Tonga and Kiribati are obese or overweight, US is 37th on the list....An obese person in my mind one who can not get out of bed, unable to walk, 400-500 pounds...
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There's a good physiological reason for that. Polynesian's need to exercise around 3 times more than Europeans to loose the same amount of weight.
Another reason why weight is not a barometer of how much food you eat/gluttony.

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Anyone recall someone disfellowshipped for gluttony???

by James Mixon in

gluttony seems to be a sin that jw's like to ignore .there are several scriptures that point out that gluttony is a sin, proverbs 23:20-21 "do not join those who gorge themselves on meat".....also i read somewhere that 1% is the number of disfellowshipped jw's each year......how do prove someone is a glutton and not just a person who love food???

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Diogenesister

I don't how historically accurate it was but I have read that wealthy Romans, during New Testament times, would hold days long banquets where they would routinely make themselves sick in order to cram more food inside.

Perhaps this is why gluttony was such an issue for 1st century Christians, especially given that poor people routinely went hungry.

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There is always one!

by Isambard Crater in

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i am pimo but attended the r.c yesterday for family pressure reasons.

a "sister" i've not seen for a while told me her husband is overjoyed because a man he called on recently in the field service suddenly told him he wanted to attend the r.c.

the unusual thing is, this man is a millionaire having built a property portfolio.

Diogenesister

moreconfusedthanever, and all newbs

PIMO: Physically in mentally out

PIMI :hysically in mentally in

POMI: physically out mentally in

POMO:Physically out mentally out

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Has the Governing Body /Jehovahs witnesses ever distanced themselves from the Williams Sisters claim of Beng a JW ?

by smiddy in

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i bring this up because of an article in the supplement of the sunday mail in victoria australia "stellar" that pregnant serena williams is a devout (ihate that word ) jehovahs witness.

i have sent a letter to the editor about it ,i wonder if it gets published.. has the wt ever distanced themselves from the claims that serena herself has claimed to be a witness ?

when accepting a win in one of her succesful matches ?.

Diogenesister

konceptual99 It wouldn't surprise me if she was never that regular even as a young person.

To get that good at tennis you have to devote an incredible amount of time to the sport, so you couldn't possibly be attending to all the usual Watchtower demands in full, or anywhere near. I would hasten to add neither could her parents, who would have had to have been very committed to helping them reach such a standard. Ferrying to practice, tournaments and the like.

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Todays WT, study with worldy kids if you can

by purrpurr in

according to today's wt, jws are now encouraged to start bible studys with worldy kids even if their parents dont want to join in.

the wt suggests that the study should take place with the parent present or with another mature jw present.. the wt suggests that studying with the kid may make the parent eventually want a study too.. ...

in what situation would any worldly parent allow some stranger from a werid cult to come jnto their house and convert their children?

Diogenesister

In a situation where the parents are neglecting the child and either don't know, are not around or are happy to offload their kids on someone else.

Watchtower knows full well we're talking about vulnerable kids here who are probably desperate for any kind of adult attention.

This happened to me.