this is probably going to unnerve some on here or make them uncomfortable.we always hear, why didn't the elders call the cops first instead of the wt society (lawyers/attorneys).
in cases of child molestation or other incidents.this video is why and if you're smart you'll follow their example.i'm not taking the wtbts side on this just so you know in advance because i do not agree with the two witness rule at all.but be that as it may,this is by far the best lawyer/attorney and law professor i've ever heard on the subject of why you should never talk to the police and always let an investigation be made through counsel.this is why in the usa you have the right to remain silent when talking to police/authorities but even more important what the fifth amendment really entails and why it would behoove us all to understand what can happen even if you are totally innocent and have nothing to hide but how things can go horribly wrong.if i ever have to go to court for anything i can only hope that i got a lawyer as competent as this one the vid is approx 46 minutes long but well worth investing that time because if you had to talk to a lawyer it would cost you a lot to receive what this professor covers in this.the majority is from the law professor and the remaining minutes are of a former police captain/investigator with his insights and opinions.and just to be clear, i'm not suggesting that the elders not call the police because they should in cases of child molestation but rather they better get legal advice to protect themselves so that they don't have to answer for the wtbts decisions.look how many former (ex) elders we have on sites like this one and others and i'm so happy they got free of the wt but also they didn't get in trouble by accidentally saying/doing the wrong thing.all of us can benefit by following this advice in the video and i hope you enjoy it and to know what your rights arehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xyp7ee.
Stupid Australian women in US rang police and got shot by cops.
Chook I appreciate your sentiments, but I don't think you can call this poor women stupid. She thought an assault was taking place and she did the neighborly thing, what I have certainly been trained since childhood to do, call the police. I live in the UK where these days most cops are there to help their community and no policemen can carry firearms without extensive training and psychological testing.
why is enoch referenced in the bible but his book omitted?.
SBF The book of Enoch is accepted... by the Ethiopian Orthodox Church.
I believe the E.O.C. accepts the most comprehensive list of apocryphal works. Interesting since it's the most ancient church.
I like the book of Enoch. It explains the real reason Soddam and Gomorrah was so reveiled. Apparently they did not follow the deeply venerated middle Eastern practice of HOSPITALITY. God became enraged when they condemned a daughter of Lott for rescuing a starving stranger in the town square. These were the crimes that cried out " clear up to heaven".
They gave no charity in the midst of their wealth, and had blood on their hands because of it.
Much like the WTBTS.
every picture i have seen at him at beth shirim and other private places are with a bottle of alcohol.. while for me personally i couldn't care less anymore.... for jw's this is low moral character.
so i'm an going to guess he was a functioning alcoholic... how did that work with his closest workers?
was he gay too?
Jaydee Is that you? Or anyone else on this forum?
Very interesting about the shipping manifest- that she definitely travelled everywhere with him.
Regarding the video: Absoltely facinating. He reminds me of Jack Nicolson, the way he talks! Nice looking guy I imagine the women are real lookers in the family!
People are Definately more forthright these days. Sometimes that's a good thing, though, as it's very easy to bury the truth when you couch things in flowery language.
every picture i have seen at him at beth shirim and other private places are with a bottle of alcohol.. while for me personally i couldn't care less anymore.... for jw's this is low moral character.
so i'm an going to guess he was a functioning alcoholic... how did that work with his closest workers?
was he gay too?
JWleaks I bet prison sobered him up a bit!!He looks mad as hell there...you just *know* what's going through his mind "Dang! hope I can bribe me some guards to smuggle some liquor in here..."
every picture i have seen at him at beth shirim and other private places are with a bottle of alcohol.. while for me personally i couldn't care less anymore.... for jw's this is low moral character.
so i'm an going to guess he was a functioning alcoholic... how did that work with his closest workers?
was he gay too?
I think it's partly because the cultural norms around drinking were different then (prohibition in parts of the USA notwithstanding). Also, remember he was very well off and from the upper middle classes and the rules are completely different for them.
Its like the old cliché of poor people are mad, rich people are eccentric.
in the spirit of some great life stories i've read on here i'd like to share mine.
sitting comfortably?
good, then we shall begin.. i was born into a jw family in 1984. dad, mum, two sisters (twins) and two brothers.
Were you me in trousers?? I was the kid that went to other people's houses for *their family worship* and I too would read those dang books ( including the insight books) as bedtime reading. I was also cripplingly shy and became a clown in order not to get too close to people.
I look forward to hearing the rest. Very enjoyable!
gluttony seems to be a sin that jw's like to ignore .there are several scriptures that point out that gluttony is a sin, proverbs 23:20-21 "do not join those who gorge themselves on meat".....also i read somewhere that 1% is the number of disfellowshipped jw's each year......how do prove someone is a glutton and not just a person who love food???
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gluttony seems to be a sin that jw's like to ignore .there are several scriptures that point out that gluttony is a sin, proverbs 23:20-21 "do not join those who gorge themselves on meat".....also i read somewhere that 1% is the number of disfellowshipped jw's each year......how do prove someone is a glutton and not just a person who love food???
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I don't how historically accurate it was but I have read that wealthy Romans, during New Testament times, would hold days long banquets where they would routinely make themselves sick in order to cram more food inside.
Perhaps this is why gluttony was such an issue for 1st century Christians, especially given that poor people routinely went hungry.
i am pimo but attended the r.c yesterday for family pressure reasons.
a "sister" i've not seen for a while told me her husband is overjoyed because a man he called on recently in the field service suddenly told him he wanted to attend the r.c.
the unusual thing is, this man is a millionaire having built a property portfolio.
moreconfusedthanever, and all newbs
PIMO: Physically in mentally out
PIMI :hysically in mentally in
POMI: physically out mentally in
POMO:Physically out mentally out
i bring this up because of an article in the supplement of the sunday mail in victoria australia "stellar" that pregnant serena williams is a devout (ihate that word ) jehovahs witness.
i have sent a letter to the editor about it ,i wonder if it gets published.. has the wt ever distanced themselves from the claims that serena herself has claimed to be a witness ?
when accepting a win in one of her succesful matches ?.
konceptual99 It wouldn't surprise me if she was never that regular even as a young person.
To get that good at tennis you have to devote an incredible amount of time to the sport, so you couldn't possibly be attending to all the usual Watchtower demands in full, or anywhere near. I would hasten to add neither could her parents, who would have had to have been very committed to helping them reach such a standard. Ferrying to practice, tournaments and the like.
