................for all their sinners - but make it mandatory that all j.w.
alleged criminals are promptly reported to the relevant authorities.
problem solved.
Trying to pin them down on non-reporting is very difficult as they lie about it, deny it and cover it up.
The reason we focus on the two witness rule is because we have them on record, and in print, that they will take an allegation of CSA no further due to this policy.
It also leads to victims being silenced within the community and/or being forced to face their abuser.
The real issue is Witness Culture of no individual's suffering being more important than the reputation of the organization.
hi everybody.i am new to this forum.i have grown up as a christian in a christian family, but i recognized that jehovahs are more positive about peace on earth.
i believe in peace on earth too.
i believe in god and jesus and angels.
astmanstanding12 hours ago12 hours ago
I’m still trying to wrap my head around this fella in his “sleepingbag on the beach in Marseillan Plage” building websites...
Did the Jehovahs offer to charge your laptop battery or bring you a generator? That would have been swell of them. You gotta be careful not to get beach sand in your keyboard. It makes the keys stick.
I was thinking about doing some website building on the beach myself, can you give me a tip on what kind of connection you find best. I was going to buy a 1000ft piece of fiber but I still need some hardware with that.
He used to be on a beach in a sleeping bag - he didn't say he is now - you're obviously not too good at reading comprehension.
I know we get our fair share of true blue conservatives on this site, but surely you must know that it's possible for hippies to become successful? I'm sure Richard Branson slept on his fair share of beaches when he was young.
And even if he doesn't become a website designer...even the homeless can dream, can they not? Or are dreams only for rich, privileged kids now?
fantastic news!
louise palmer, the lass recently interviewed by a major british newspaper and a csa survivor, has tweeted the following:.
what a busy couple of days!
Fantastic news! Louise Palmer, the lass recently interviewed by a major British newspaper and a CSA survivor, has tweeted the following:
What a busy couple of days! But great news, it looks like the ridiculous “Two Witness Rule” Will be raised in parliament in a few weeks time! #NoMoreSilence #AgainstCSE #ForTheKids
You can catch it on Twitter @loopyloupalmer
All credit goes to Louise for her brave stand in waiving her right to anonymity in order to expose Watchtower's evil two witness rule. Her abuser was given a 15 year sentence reduced to 10, and the link to her story was posted on here a few days ago by our own Darkspilver.
i was walking out of the store and i passed a former jw associate of 20+ years.
"keith"he was an elder, got df'd, lost his wife, got reinstated and last i heard started pioneering!so i see him as i'm walking to my parking spot.. i stop, look him straight in the face and yell from 20 feet away, "you're in a cult.
you're in a cult, dude!".
If you want to try and reason with them
Good for you!
If you want to just get on with your life
Good for you!
If you want to yell It to them straight!
Good for you!
To each, their own. We have all suffered enough to have the right to do what feels best!
unmovable, i stand motionless; it is not chains that bind me.. my eyes, fixed steadily upon cheerful passersby on the street below, peer through darkly transparent curtains.
in contrast to my languid self, these happy souls are at peace with the world.
not so long ago, i was a companion to all, democratic in the society i kept.
As beautiful as Dorian Grey is,
I think, of all the books that Oscar Wilde wrote, the one that reminds the most of being a witness, ANY Witness, is "The Little Prince".
I love Oscar Wildes children stories. I think those 7 men should read ' The selfish Giant' and they may get a better idea of Jesus. Don't you?
so i recently moved back to my really really really small hometown in the south.
it was the place that my parents moved to from a major city up north in the early 1970's.
when we lived here times were very tough financially and i was always told that the reason we did not attend meetings was due to the fact that we had no car / no gas for the car / could not afford repairs for the years we were there.
Fisherman, dear Fishy Show me where in the Bible it says anything about 1914, or 1919 when Watchtower ( or that crook Rutherford) was supposedly chosen by Jesus.
And if you try to bring up Daniel, you do know that Jews consider the book of Daniel as " writings" don't you? With the song of Solomon, it's considered a fictional story, it didn't happen. Not historical at all - by the guys that wrote it.
And they should know. They are the ones that put the books of the OT together, in 300BC. In fact many Jews only consider the Tanakh as sacred. Some historians query when/if the OT was put together at all by ancient Jews.
nightmare on elm street.
mother to elder: tiffany, my daughter, shocked me last night.
she told me she was fondled by our hispanic neighbor after she babysat for their children.. elder: that is terrible to hear, sister.
And the absurd thing is, they are saying the supreme, loving creator of the universe can get HIS good name soiled by the actions of one human??!!
When Judas betrayed Jesus did they say " oh, you gave Jehovah a bad name!!"
When David murdered Bathshebas husband, did they say " oh, you gave Jehovah a bad name"( etc etc for all the bad behaviour in the bible)
No. Its about a human cult worrying they will get found out.
replace one word in a song title with the word 'elder/s'.. eg.
the elders are back in town' (boys).
smoke on the elder (water).
I'm too drunk to Elder
(On second thoughts. Scrub that one!)
can anyone give me a valid reason for it?
growing old is a drag.
the witnesses idea of ever lasting life, that you will come back to your most youthful state is such a bs answer..
I wouldn't want to live in their idea of paradise, with ruddy Watchtower studies...can you imagine that??? We never used to perceive it like that...Watchtower has got more and more controlling with their pictures of paradise outdoor kingdom hall meetings, and talking about elders being the " princes" of the realm. How puke worthy. No princesses mind you, we were warned. Cult. Cult. Cult.
I thought female subjection was a consequence of sin. That's all out the window matey in the New world!! So there Mr. Garlic bread!!
after looking through doug mason's "ransom" thread, i noticed a little discrepancy between dub doctrine and the bible; i.e.
lazarus.. if the wages of sin is death, lazarus paid the wages in full by dying, and when resurrected by jesus, he should then have been a "perfect" man.
after all, he paid his wages for his imperfection -- he died.
I'm not 100% sure it's got anything to do with Jesus. Has it?
As far as I know the wages of sin being death, and having paid for your sin, you should in theory be perfect is an old testament idea, before they'd even come up with the idea of a redeemer who would be killed to pay for the sins of all.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think our fully formed idea of jesus is really there initially. Debate anyone? Maybe @David_Jay would be able to tell us more?
