Diogenesister

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  Is There Going to be Money in the New System?

  by NotFormer in

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  if not, what's in it for the gb?.

  but seriously, how is it supposed to work?

  pictures of jws in paradise show them raising crops, wearing clothes and building houses.

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  Others have said the answer is DiY/self sufficiency etc

  But...

  no money = time cannot exist, then

  Because : there's only so much in a 24 hour day one person can accomplish. In a world where ALL your material needs are satisfied, you cannot possibly have enough time yourself to make everything you need. Even basics such as food and clothing. Therefore you'll need a barter system of some kind.

  (Saying we have forever doesn't work because humans still require a certain amount of food etc in a given period in order to live. The only way it works is magic)

  Unless, of course...socialism👍😂
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  Request!----Atlantis Is There Anywhere Else The Watchtower Admits?

  by Atlantis in

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  atlantis, is there anywhere else that the watchtower admits that disfellowshipping or excommunication is pagan?.

  sure, they said the same thing back in 1880 about a lot of churches being like the beast for practicing excommunication.. as papacy established the priesthood over the church, soprotestantism has established almost the same, and there isno opportunity for the body to edify itself, every joint takingpart.

  true, there is a seeming show of liberty at prayer meetings,&c., but it is only upon the surface, for the ordainedpastor is to watch zealously lest anything contrary to theteachings of his church should be expressed, and if so tosilence the audacious member at once, for the church creedis the rule, not the word of god.

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  Unbelievable Atlantis that's incredible. Can you imagine in your average Witness read this today???!!

  Thank you 😊I'm only sorry I can't help you find more but I'll surely keep an eye out💝🤘🏼👩🏼‍🍳🥘 Digital spaghetti meatballs I made my son's tonight winging over to you
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  Governing body

  by moley in

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  are the governing body really in charge or are they just a figurehead with the real power being behind the curtain .

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  more suitable accommodation.

  Lol😂
  I think they're being "managed", but they're not aware of it if that's what you mean Moley. They're being managed by the legal and the finance dept.
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  New meeting format

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  just watched november broadcast very different order to the leaked agm .

  be good if someone did a deep dive on the difference and why the changes?

  i didn’t time the items but it should be easy to see if edited?.

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  DropofyourkeyLee and set yourself free...They made a distinction of different requirements from regular Israelites (giving the 10% tithe) and Nazirites, who are compared to present pioneers and special servants. This seemed to be their justification for requiring pioneers, etc to continue to report hours, while regular publishers simply check a box

  Aha! Thank you! Always got to have their theocratic rationale. You've discovered it👍
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  LMsA I think the judge should see this. Dismissal on jurisdictional grounds would actually be doing Lloyd a favour.

  Totally

  It's also easy to see why Lloyd focused on Cora for doing literally nothing. A beautiful woman, happily married.

  Johnathan has more vitriol aimed at him than almost anyone, despite being very peripheral....ok he was first to give Kim a platform, but that doesn't account for it all. Again....to me it seems clear jealousy plays a part in his grudge against Johnathan - aside from good looks he had Lloyds dream life imho. ;)
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  LMsAIn that article he even quoted Dijana’s response to looking “beat down” - “Well thanks a lot!”.

  Ha!(and a heads up for KimB.) In the UK we say "down beaten" for the same thing - just a word reversal - to mean emotionally 'put upon'. I reckon even DIJANA took it to mean her face looked haggard and exhausted, hence the "Gee....thanks" type response.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Me😂Others have pointed out he's targeted people who didn't even name him at a time he wasn't well known and who re tweeted videos they didn't make.

  I'm quoting myself now🤪😂but (it just occurred to me)......boy....can that man bare a grudge!😱😱...9 years!!🤪🤪😭😭
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  T5 The thing for me i would love to know is how much that Narcissistic Ego trip tantrum cost Him! the lawyer fees, the translation of the documents , the cost of sending this not to one but 7 people, What an Idiot.

  I'd say it was clearly enough to annoy a tightwad like him, but bugger all in the scheme of things.

  As Simon pointed out, he went to the nearest local yokel's in Sisak. For a potentially International case around the emerging area of digital media - that's odd. It doesn't engender much confidence.

  Others have pointed out he's targeted people who didn't even name him at a time he wasn't well known and who re tweeted videos they didn't make.

  I wouldn't place much confidence in lawyers prepared to submit that kind of 'evidence', regardless of their knowledge of Croatia's idiosyncratic libel laws.
  So did he pay 'eyewatering' sums? I doubt it. Headed note paper and a couple of tipsy conversations in the local boozer about 'fighting on' for the sake of a 'life saving work'probably didn't cost what he claims it cost.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  They are calling me a wife beater!” So it comes as ZERO surprise he’s brought up a decade old video pointing to the son-in-law saying his wife looks “beat down”.

  Wow Lloyd said that??

  Well I come from the same part of the world(ish) as Lloyd and that wasn't my take away at all! I knew exactly what Kim's son-in-law meant....it didn't even enter my head that he was insinuating Lloyd got physical with Dijana.🤔🤔🤔

  I think Lloyd purposefully misrepresented sons words.
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  My daughter got married last weekend and I haven’t had time to look three all the rubbish yet

  congratulations Kim and Mr & Mrs. Little Kim!