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  New to this site....

  by TanCatLuvr in

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  i am so thrilled to find this forum.

  it is such a relief to know that all of us 'apostates' are normal people who had the nerve to question what has been crammed down our throats.. i am 4th generation ex-jw with family members at bethel, doing missionary work, and pioneering.

  even though i have been out for almost 20+ years, i still had guilt admitting to myself that this was a cult-like organization until just recently.

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  Welcome!
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  Would YOU Stop Wearing Cologne Or Perfume At A KH If Someone Had Allergies?

  by minimus in

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  we had a few that would start coughing if someone wore a fragrance.

  they would make a big deal about anyone wearing cologne and say such ones were not loving and considerate.

  some elders would recommend that witnesses should not wear any cologne or perfume, if they loved their brother or sister.

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  Undercover: "Open mind - use Axe body spray. According to the TV commercials (which never lie) it's supposed to make you irresistable to all hot babes within your scent."

  I don't know about the body spray but the axe body wash attracts cats.

  Back to the topic. There was a sister in my old hall who couldn't go to the meetings because she would get sick. She was sensitive to everything. I went in service with her one day and took a potty break. The soap that I washed my hands with made her sick for two weeks. Everyone felt bad that she couldn't go to the meetings so the elders arranged a new fragrance free bookstudy group. But it was all voluntary. Me and my mom went to support her.
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  Did the GB/WT said that the “Great Crowd” is going to heaven? May 1, 2002 WT - Question From Readers.

  by tjlibre in

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  in the april 15, 2010 wt study article that contains the new interpretation on the generation quagmire...hurgmm..hurgmm ...teaching.

  there is a box titled are you keeping up with increased light?

  one particular article sparked my interest, the one titled: in which courtyard does the great crowd serve?

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  Did you loathe going in field service, if so why?

  by HappyGuy in

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  i always felt like i was not a "spiritual" person because i loathed going in field service.

  i'm not even sure why i loathed it.

  i am very outgoing and can talk to anyone, anytime, about anything.

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  I enjoyed the time spend with "friends." But as for going to the doors, I hated it. I never knew how to respond to certain comments such as, "We're lesbians here" or "I'm a Satanist." People always said things like that to me. Even when I was pioneering I never felt adequate enough and I always went out with my mom so that she could take over when something like that happened.
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  Is it really okay for a JW to lie?

  by dissed in

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  been away from the wts for 13 years and noticed at jwn many are mentioning its now okay for jw's to lie, if....... its for the right reasons.

  like misleading the jw's and worldy people about district convention parking.

  to raise monies for the wts.

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  dissed

  You're right. It is wrong. I was using sarcasm. Maybe I should have noted that in my above post. People usually don't understand when I use sarcasm. I guess I'm not doing it right.
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  Is it really okay for a JW to lie?

  by dissed in

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  been away from the wts for 13 years and noticed at jwn many are mentioning its now okay for jw's to lie, if....... its for the right reasons.

  like misleading the jw's and worldy people about district convention parking.

  to raise monies for the wts.

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  When I was a teenager I heard a talk given by an elder where he used the scripture at Joshua 2:1-7 to show that lying, for the right reasons, is okay. In the scripture, Rahab lies to protect the spies. God actually looked with favor upon this lie and saved her for it. So there is biblical proof that lying is okay! Don't pay attention to that cognitive dissonance kicking in. Just pray and it'll go away.

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  1 And Joshua the son of Nun ( A ) sent [ a ] two men secretly from Shittim as spies, saying, "Go, view the land, especially Jericho." And they went and came into the house of ( B ) a prostitute whose name was ( C ) Rahab and lodged there. 2 And it was told to the king of Jericho, "Behold, men of Israel have come here tonight to search out the land." 3 Then the king of Jericho sent to Rahab, saying, "Bring out the men who have come to you, who entered your house, for they have come to search out all the land." 4 But the woman had taken the two men and hidden them. And she said, "True, the men came to me, but I did not know where they were from. 5 And when the gate was about to be closed at dark, the men went out. I do not know where the men went. Pursue them quickly, for you will overtake them." 6 But she had brought them up to the roof and hid them with the stalks of flax that she had laid in order on the roof. 7 So the men pursued after them on the way to the Jordan ( D ) as far as the fords. And the gate was shut as soon as the pursuers had gone out.
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  I told my husband that I'm going to throw away my no blood card

  by doublelife in

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  i discussed my view with him and he understood the point i made but said that until he receives further instruction from the gb he will still refuse a transfusion.

  i asked him if he would deny me a blood transfusion if i needed one and he said, "i don't know.

  i went to lunch with my non-jw aunt and cousin and told them about the conversation.

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  Thanks blondie. And yes, they don't have the no blood cards anymore but I never filled out the power of attorney so all this time all I had was the old card. I didn't fill out the power of attorney because the fractions issue was too confusing for me. The confusion prevented me from being able to make a decision. Everything is so much clearer now.
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  I told my husband that I'm going to throw away my no blood card

  by doublelife in

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  i discussed my view with him and he understood the point i made but said that until he receives further instruction from the gb he will still refuse a transfusion.

  i asked him if he would deny me a blood transfusion if i needed one and he said, "i don't know.

  i went to lunch with my non-jw aunt and cousin and told them about the conversation.

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  I discussed my view with him and he understood the point I made but said that until he receives further instruction from the GB he will still refuse a transfusion. I asked him if he would deny me a blood transfusion if I needed one and he said, "I don't know." I didn't say anything after that. I went to lunch with my non-jw aunt and cousin and told them about the conversation. My aunt said to use her as an emergency contact and I asked her if she would be willing to be my medical power of attorney and she said yes. She said that she likes my husband but I am her niece and if this is my decision that she will fight him if needed. So now I have to go through the process of making her my power of attorney and I'm not really sure how to go to about it. I don't have a primary care physician so I know I need to do that. Do I contact a lawyer? Is there a certain type of lawyer I should contact or will any one do?

  My aunt also talked about how her mom was so upset when my mom decided to marry into a jw family. Their worst fear was that they would never see my mom again and it came true. I had no idea how much my absense and my mom and brother's absense affected the family. They said it was like a loss as if my mother was dead. She also told me that they would buy christmas presents for me and my brother and they would get in trouble for it and wouldn't be allowed to give it to us. I had no idea that happened. It was upsetting for my aunt to remember all of this and was holding back tears. It made me upset.

  The way my aunt talked about my mom and the way she expressed her mom's view made me realize that my mom gave me a completely different perception of that side of my family. My mom always gave me the impression that she was always the black sheep of the family and she thinks that her mom doesn't really love her and always liked her sister better. It makes me wonder if that is really true or if that is the distorted reality my mom sees as a result of being in a cult. From my discussions with my mom it doesn't seem like she has any positive memories of her pre-cult life. I know Steven Hassan talked about that in his book but I didn't realize until today that maybe that's what happened with my mom.

  Well, during lunch, my mom called and I answered. I let it slip that I was eating with her sister and my cousin. Immediately, my cousin and aunt cringed and whispered to each other, "Oh no. We're going to be in so much trouble." And, sure enough, the first question my mom asked is, "Did you go to the meeting today?" So I got out of it by saying our meeting is on Saturdays. And it is, I just never told my mom. After I got off the phone I spent the rest of the day with them and we went to the movies. My aunt thought maybe we could invite my mom but it was rated R and I had to tell them that she wouldn't see it because of its rating. My mom called me about 6 times and I just knew I was in trouble so I didn't answer. I waited til I got home to call her and I was surprised that she didn't get onto me. She actually seemed a little jealous. She said, "I just wondered what triggered this meeting between ya'll because they never call me." It's weird because she is the one who pushed them away but she thinks they are the ones who don't like her. So I'm thinking that the three of us should start doing more stuff with my mom. Maybe my mom needs some association my her non-jw sister.
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  nightmares after leaving

  by myownlife in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello everyone, i have been reading the different topics and haven't seen this discussed..... i was raised in the 'truth' and decided when i was 19 this was not for me...but unfortunately it took years after that to finally make the clean break.

  during that time and up until about a year ago, i was having strange and disturbing nightmares..it finally came to a head when i dreamed that i cussed out the elders in the congregation i had left.,..woke up in a sweat but felt great!

  has anyone else experienced this?

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  I've never had problems with nightmares but my husband has a lot of demon dreams. It concerns me.
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  child molester reinstated

  by EmptyInside in

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  i'm rather sick inside right now.

  i just found out the sicko that molested my friend, his daughters, grand-daughter, and others just got reinstated.

  he's been disfellowshipped for awhile now.

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  doublelife

  I agree with cameo-d.