Dang, I feel so ignorant. This is the first time I've heard of eastern christianity. Just something else to add to the list of things to study. It seems like it never ends.
doublelife
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Why Do People Abandon the Christian Faith?
by leavingwt ini enjoyed reading these points.
in the second list of "real reasons", it was points #2 and #3 that first struck me, after leaving the jws.. .
why do people abandon the christian faith?.
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This good news of the kingdom
by sd-7 inif you'll open your 'benefit from theocratic ministry school education' books to page 279, you'll notice that it says, "the message jesus said would be preached in our time goes beyond what was preached in the first century.
" if you actually opened your books, i'm paraphrasing, but that's pretty close to the actual quote.. i remembered this quote from sometime ago, but couldn't understand how people overlooked this obvious violation of galatians 1:8: "even though we or an angel out of heaven should declare to you as good news something beyond what we preached, let him be accursed.".
of course, the answer is obvious: many jws don't pay attention to what they read.
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doublelife
sd-7, I'm glad you didn't leave the forum. This topic brought up something that I had never thought of before. It never occurred to me that "this good news of the kingdom" is something different than what jws teach. I need to take some time to read the NT.
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Does anybody else feel relieved that they won't be tortured during the great tribulation?
by doublelife ini grew up hearing about different ways people have been tortured in the past and was always scared of going through that during the gt.
it was always an unhealthy obsession of mine.
i always thought that i was more worried about it than other jws and that i would end up renouncing my faith to get out of it.
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doublelife
designs: Lol.
Edington: 'You think too much.' I remember hearing that myself. And it does give you something to think about when you realize that your real father would get himself killed to save you whereas Jehovah will just watch so that you can prove your loyalty.
QuestioningEverything: Amen.
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My mom got stumbled by today's Watchtower
by JerkhovahsWitless inthe photo on page 26. she noticed it and was wondering before i even brought it to her attention.. why is it ok for the jw posing as the "worldly person" to wear a cross necklace?
aren't jws suppose to destroy their crosses prior to becoming a jw no matter the monetary or sentimental value?
why can the watchtower keep cross necklaces on hand as props?
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doublelife
I wondered the same thing when I saw a fortune teller in the knowledge book. She had a crystal ball and on the same picture were tarot cards. Don't remember what page it was on.
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Does anybody else feel relieved that they won't be tortured during the great tribulation?
by doublelife ini grew up hearing about different ways people have been tortured in the past and was always scared of going through that during the gt.
it was always an unhealthy obsession of mine.
i always thought that i was more worried about it than other jws and that i would end up renouncing my faith to get out of it.
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doublelife
Outlaw, restrangled, and lancelink: Yes, it was torture being in the WTS.
dinah: I'm 27 and I don't remember Malawi specifically but I remember all the tortured stories from the yearbook that traumatized me.
Oceanblue: Very scary indeed. I remember wondering if we would be put in concentration camps again.
Cofty: It is very unhealthy for a child to worry about things like that. I always thought I was the only one but maybe others just didn't want to talk about it.
journey-on: That's why I never had kids. I was scared that my children would be tortured in front of me and I knew I would renounce my faith in an instant. I didn't want Satan to have the advantage so I decided against having children.
Out at Last: It's good you never believed it.
Lady Lee: Thank God it ain't happening.
dissed: Yes, I remember that scripture but for some reason it never comforted me. I remember one pioneer told me that because we live in USA, which is suppose to be part of the Anglo-American dual world power, we would get it worse than anyone else in the world.
pixiesticks: That's horrible. I, too, had the same fear of renouncing my faith and not being forgiven and losing out on everlasting life. Rest assured that we don't have to stress over that anymore.
leec: Unfortunately, you're right. But at least the threat of torture isn't coming from our religion.
Mad Sweeney: That's what I've always felt about the rank and file too. I just couldn't understand why other weren't affected by it as much as I was.
Jerkhovahs Witless: Wow! lol
badseed: Yes, being zapped is much less painful.
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Does anybody else feel relieved that they won't be tortured during the great tribulation?
by doublelife ini grew up hearing about different ways people have been tortured in the past and was always scared of going through that during the gt.
it was always an unhealthy obsession of mine.
i always thought that i was more worried about it than other jws and that i would end up renouncing my faith to get out of it.
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doublelife
Chalam,
Thanks for the scriptures but I'm not talking about the resurrection nor what the scriptures actually teach. I was talking about being relieved that there will be no great tribulation(as depicted by WTS), hence no torture, even if it means that you will die one day. A lot of ex-jws are troubled when they realize they will die but I feel more relief than anything. I'd rather die of old age than go through the great tribulation and I wondered if anyone else felt that way.
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Does anybody else feel relieved that they won't be tortured during the great tribulation?
by doublelife ini grew up hearing about different ways people have been tortured in the past and was always scared of going through that during the gt.
it was always an unhealthy obsession of mine.
i always thought that i was more worried about it than other jws and that i would end up renouncing my faith to get out of it.
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doublelife
I grew up hearing about different ways people have been tortured in the past and was always scared of going through that during the GT. It was always an unhealthy obsession of mine. I always thought that I was more worried about it than other jws and that I would end up renouncing my faith to get out of it. And I've heard that a lot of people who realize the WTS scam have problems coming to terms with their own mortality. But I feel like I had immediate relief. I realized I would die one day and I actually prefer that over the GT and armageddon. Even though I don't know what to expect after death, I don't know whether or not there will be an afterlife, I'm okay with not knowing and I don't fear it. Of coarse, I don't want to die right now. But I'm okay with living my life till I grow old and then dying. I no longer worry about having someone rip my nails off or poke my eyes out or drown me or anything else that someone could do to inflict pain on me. Does anybody else feel this way?
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New member Let me intro myself
by God Chick inhello all you scary apostates.
ill try to be brief, prob could do a whole topic on each point.. i was born a jw, one of 7 kids.
my mum ruled house with iron fist (whole story just there) we were the perfect jw family, never missed fs or meetings all baptised at magic age of 14, all pioneered.
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doublelife
Welcome!
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Cult expert S.Hassan speaks out on witnesses in Russia.
by koolaid-man inhttp://www.goddiscussion.com/18765/russia-to-drafts-law-to-ban-religious-cults-mormons-moonies-jehovah-witnesses-and-others-fear-persecution/.
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doublelife
Darn, I'm at work right now. Will watch the when I get home.
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How many of you were baptised at a young age?
by lepermessiah inone thing this site has made me reflect on the baptism practice in jw land.. many of us were raised in the religion, thus you were given the pressure early on to shoot for baptism as a goal.. i remember feeling bad because i waited until the ripe old age of 14 to take the plunge.. looking back, i realize that when i was 14, i didnt even know what my favorite color was, let alone have enough knowledge to make a life altering decision.
yet, growing up in that climate, i would say anyone who waited past their early teens to get baptised was viewed with great suspicion and was likely to be viewed as "bad association".
kids who took the dip at 8-9 years of age were viewed as "wise beyond their years" and the like.. how old were some of you when you were baptised, and what are your feelings on the matter?.
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doublelife
I was 17. Just under the age requirement to be able to sign a contract in USA. Too bad I can't get that contract nullified.