Posts by tjlibre

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Making the leap - lurker to member - Hello!

by Hadit in

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ive been lurking here for the past couple of months since i started researching the organization.

i dont have many people to talk to and its been a saving grace to read your posts.. i dont really know where to start so here i go.

its been a long journey getting here and it looks as if i still have a long ways to go to get somewhere healthy, stable and strong.

tjlibre

Welcome to the forum! Welcome to reality.

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I had a nightmarewhat does it mean?

by tjlibre in

i had a very vivid dream last night that i would like to share it with you.

i wonder if any of you have had the same type of dream.

i believe that dreams are used by subconscious mind to communicate with the conscious mind, so im sure that this dream has a meaning.

tjlibre

Thank you for your insightful and funny comments.

Journey-on : I think that you are on to something. If I get away with not getting DF/DA, most likely I’ll still be around the JW for a little while, but I know that it will be a matter of time before I face straight on confrontation with the WT or the Elders.

I’ll keep looking for answers in the chickpeas, next time I’ll add more jalapeño cheese to the hummus; then top it with ice cream. Maybe all the compressed gas will be strong enough to kill the monkey and the hippo.

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I had a nightmarewhat does it mean?

by tjlibre in

i had a very vivid dream last night that i would like to share it with you.

i wonder if any of you have had the same type of dream.

i believe that dreams are used by subconscious mind to communicate with the conscious mind, so im sure that this dream has a meaning.

tjlibre

Mad: Yup. I had a feeling that’s what the “jail” means.

highdose: monster= elder = WT henchman. makes sense.

Sylvia: I had chickpeas with brown rice.

I watched a documentary on MLK assassination and read a portion of Steve Hassan’s “cult mind control” before going to bed.

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I had a nightmarewhat does it mean?

by tjlibre in

i had a very vivid dream last night that i would like to share it with you.

i wonder if any of you have had the same type of dream.

i believe that dreams are used by subconscious mind to communicate with the conscious mind, so im sure that this dream has a meaning.

tjlibre

I had a very vivid dream last night that I would like to share it with you. I wonder if any of you have had the same type of dream. I believe that dreams are used by “subconscious mind” to communicate with the “conscious mind”, so I’m sure that this dream has a meaning.

Here it goes….

I dreamed that I was unjustly put in jail and facing deportation (but the thing is that I’m a naturalized US citizen, which means that technically I can’t be deported to my country of birth). In the dream, my wife visited me and at times stayed with me in my jail cell. I was allowed to move about the prison yard, but was restrained from fully enjoying many of the activities that I usually like to do, like reading books. From my jail cell window, I was able to have a small view of the city streets. There was a parade on the city street in which they had a huge hippopotamus, this hippopotamus got out of control and very angry and it grew to a size of a five story building. The hippopotamus head/face changed to that of a turtle. I was scared…but thankful that I was in the jail cell as it provided protection from the charging “monster”. But that sense of security was lost at the moment that the monster looked at me right in the eye…it charged at my jail cell, I felt that I was being crushed by this animal…but then I woke up, thankful that it was just a nightmare.

I’ll appreciate your thoughts and comments on this dream…I feel like talking about it.

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New here...

by hereiam! in

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friends

sorry if this starts off as a kind of a downer.. i am 29, and my husband and i have stopped going to meetings since last october.

we live in mexico and used to attend the english.

long story short, after realizing how many much we've been lied to we stopped going to our meetings, moved out of the territory, switched to spanish, and after a month of attending just vanished.

tjlibre

¡Biebenida hereiam! Estamos aqui para darnos apoyo mutuo y sincero. Enviame un PM (mensaje personal) para conocernos mejor. Welcome hereiam! We are here to support each onther. Send me a PM to get to know each other better.

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More from the June 15th WT on the Love at the meetings.

by life is to short in

this wt just keeps getting better and better, ok well the start of it was the worst the generation change but man this whole wt is really ticking me off.

i must just be in some mood right now.

it has taken me the whole week to listen to it.

tjlibre

JW's on their way to the meeting/service/etc...

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Highlights from Circuit (2 days) Assembly Be Afraid Very Afraid!!!

by tjlibre in

the content of the program presented at the circuit assembly: safeguard your spirituality served as a re-affirmation that the wt/gb is loosing the grip of rank & file.

they are becoming boulder and boulder in their blatant use of mind control techniques; in my opinion, their mind control techniques used to be more subtle.

but the content of the program in this past assembly clearly reflected that they are acting out of frustration and desperation.

tjlibre

WTWizard

In many of the interviews they mentioned preaching outside the USA as a theocratic goal.

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Highlights from Circuit (2 days) Assembly Be Afraid Very Afraid!!!

by tjlibre in

the content of the program presented at the circuit assembly: safeguard your spirituality served as a re-affirmation that the wt/gb is loosing the grip of rank & file.

they are becoming boulder and boulder in their blatant use of mind control techniques; in my opinion, their mind control techniques used to be more subtle.

but the content of the program in this past assembly clearly reflected that they are acting out of frustration and desperation.

tjlibre

Thanks for the complements FLIPPER…

There were many “gems” in my circuit assembly. The district and the circuit overseers were exactly the same persons. Same tone, same charisma almost the same speech pattern. They used a lot derogatory terms to refer to the apostate, calling them animals, beasts, dogs, fleshly men, rats, fools, and of course demon possessed. There was a sketch/demonstration showing a brother using a social-network website and the internet to find information about the WT, his name was brother “gullible” his father’s name wasbrother “overly confident”, they were both mocked.

They called academics and financial goals a false dream and an illusion. Because those “things have made some of our brothers leave our Real Home…The Organization” (those were the exact words from the speaker).

One of the talks mentioned that doubts, bad association, materialism, technology, cell phones, computers, etc have become or could become a danger to our “spirituality”. That if we perceive that those things are affecting us, to act in accordance to the advice from the GB/FDS, “IT IS A MATTER OF LIFE OR DEATH” (exact words from the speaker).

Another thing that I noticed was that in certain talks they raised the volume to extremely high levels, specifically for the public talk.

Oh…also they said that we might know some FADERS that have wandered off the flock who might appear to be doing well financially and looking happy and content! My jaw dropped for like the 1,000 th time when I heard this.

Again, this is what played out in my circuit…but it was actually fun to hear and notice the GB’s desperation, I read to my wife selected portions of Steve Hassan’s (combating…) chap 4 & 5 and she said… “those things described what I’ve been noticing…and that’s what this assembly was all about”. (Pg 78 Doctrine is reality, Pg 80 Elitist Mentality, Pg 82 Manipulation through Fear and Guilt.)

But after I read the following quote to my wife, she stopped for a moment to think and meditate…I noticed that something sunk in her mind:

Pg 45 parg. 4 “What do phobias have to do with cult groups and mind control? In some cults, members are systematically made to be phobic about ever leaving the group. Today’s cults know how to effectively implant vivid negative images deep within member’s unconscious minds, making it impossible for the member to ever conceive of ever being happy and successful outside of the group. (bold mine).

So keep’em coming WT…LOL

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Highlights from Circuit (2 days) Assembly Be Afraid Very Afraid!!!

by tjlibre in

the content of the program presented at the circuit assembly: safeguard your spirituality served as a re-affirmation that the wt/gb is loosing the grip of rank & file.

they are becoming boulder and boulder in their blatant use of mind control techniques; in my opinion, their mind control techniques used to be more subtle.

but the content of the program in this past assembly clearly reflected that they are acting out of frustration and desperation.

tjlibre

Hello All,

Please excuse me for posting this again…I was under the influence of benadril last night (I think I’m becoming allergic to the WT crap) and thought the first post did not went trough.

Thanks to all for your comments.

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Highlights from Circuit (2 days) Assembly Be Afraid Very Afraid!!!

by tjlibre in

the content of the program presented at the circuit assembly: safeguard your spirituality served as a re-affirmation that the wt/gb is loosing the grip of rank & file.

they are becoming boulder and boulder in their blatant use of mind control techniques; in my opinion, their mind control techniques used to be more subtle.

but the content of the program in this past assembly clearly reflected that they are acting out of frustration and desperation.

tjlibre

The content of the program presented at the circuit assembly: Safeguard Your Spirituality served as a re-affirmation that the WT/GB is loosing the grip of Rank & File. They are becoming boulder and boulder in their blatant use of “mind control” techniques; in my opinion, their “mind control” techniques used to be more subtle. But the content of the program in this past assembly clearly reflected that they are acting out of frustration and desperation. It is obvious to me, that their self imposed authority is being challenged like never before in the history of the WT Organization. All thanks in part to the flow of information from the Internet, among other things.

Here is a summary of what the ENTIRE program was about:

· Pioneer, Pioneer, Pioneer, Pioneer, Pioneer, Pioneer, Pioneer, Pioneer, Pioneer, Pioneer, Pioneer, Pioneer, Pioneer, Pioneer, Pioneer, Pioneer, Pioneer.

· Pioneering elevates our spirituality. Pioneers are the happiest, wiser, most matured, Christians=JW you’ll ever meet. They contribute to the peace and unity of the congregation.

· The World outside the WT Org is an evil place, Satanas El Diablo!! is out to get us. There is nothing of real value in any activities other than theocratic activities. In almost every talk they bashed non-JW and depicted the word as a living hell, I mean in every single talk they did this in so many different way.

· If you are Single: stay single, don’t preoccupied yourself looking for a mate..Pioneer; if Married: don’t have children they are a stumbling block on your pursue of a theocratic career as a Pioneer. If you are Parent/s: Pioneer and train your children to become a pioneer one day…just like daddy and mommy or both.

· Praise the GB and the Organization.

· “Don’t look for water from other fountains” all that you need to know about God and the Bible we are providing it to you. We know that some are doing this, and it is wrong.

· If you have doubts…it’s your fault, there is something wrong with you. You should not questions the truths provided by the GB.

· Stay way from the Internet, Facebook or any other social network.

They honored the wonderful work that evil apostates are doing at planting seeds of doubts in many. They mentioned apostasy several times. They also advised to stay away from doubting active JWs…including elders! The opening prayer included a plead to protect the “Organization from the intense attacks launched by their enemies”.

At the end of the program, the Circuit Overseer ask the audience, “Are you afraid?...if not you should be”. Because there are only two outcomes to all of this, you’ll ether enjoy a wonderful everlasting life in the new world or you’ll be fertilizer (manure)”.

Well…I’m that is why I’m presenting my formal dissociation from this Forum or any other apostate website. “Mother” is calling, I’ll fill out my Pioneering application because I want to be among the happiest people in the world.....

Yeah...right!

TJ Libre