Michelle365

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  Do they still do the "Special Talk"?

  by Michelle365 in

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  and if so when is it this year?.

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  and if so when is it this year?
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  Anniversary of our being egged by JWS, decide to show you all the letter we sent to 200 JW families!!! Enjoy!!

  by Lady Liberty in

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  i hope this letter finds you and your loved ones both happy and well.

  one day, before the summer assembly, my parents informed me that they had serious doubts.

  i just wanted it to go away, and for things to be the way they used to be.

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  Thanks for the bttt! That was awesome. Very well done. I'd like to send something similar to my brother. Did you get anyone who was upset that you broke their faith? I feel my bro may respond that way. Like I offended him by ruining his life. lol.
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  Has anyone tried to prevent ex-spouse from training the kids as JWs?

  by Michelle365 in

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  2. bible

  i am at the point in my custody battle where i need to decide if i'm gonna "go for the gold" and bring religion into the fight.

  my lawyer thinks i have a chance based on the parental alienation aspect of the religion.

  i'm df'd and my kids are being raised to turn against me.

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  GL Tirebiter--you said "If he doesn't want to go, you go anyway and talk with Parenting Coordinator. Make his absence show up in a paper trail." Absolutely. I'm creating the paper trail and letting him hang himself. The whole "my house my rules" is hard. I agree with you and I really don't want to encourage the kids to disobey their father but the only other choice is to let him control our lives and to run my household as well. It's very draining and frustrating and leaves me feeling on edge at all times.

  JWDaughter--Thank you for sharing your experience. That is what I need to hear but it still is the endless battle. How do I assert my beliefs without badmouthing the Dad or the religion? You know? In practical application it is just non stop drama & stress. My ex will never agree to let them not be JWs at school. He is a freaking zealot. This is why I'm back in court. It's such a fine line between low key and passive. I have to be ready and be "on" every day all the time for when this shit comes up.
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  Is anyone on this board going tonight........

  by cantleave in

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  and partaking of the emblems?.

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  If so, will you wear one of those button cams and post the video of the horrified elders' faces?
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  New Program ?

  by man in black in

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  this afternoon my wife received aphone call from an old elder friend, she was quite surprised.. we da'd ourselves a little over a year ago.. he basically invited us to the memorial on tuesday night, and he went into some story about how many people in the hall.

  are inactive/da'd/ df'd.

  and he launched into some info.

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  Very interesting, Man In Black. I'd be interested in that info as well. Although if it was some new "program" wouldn't most of us have gotten a similar call?
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  How many DF'ed on this board have actually had...

  by tenyearsafter in

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  2. experiences

  how many disfellowshipped ones on this board have actually had follow up elder visits "encouraging" them to return to the meetings?.

  i have been df'ed for 15 years now, and i have never had one visit (i am not saying that is a bad thing!

  ) from an elder encouraging me to return to the organization.

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  I've only been df'd for 4 months but no memorial invite for any of the 3 years I've been "gone". The only Elder contact I've had since I left is the hounding and trying to get proof of my evil. No encouragment type visits at all.
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  Terry's New Article on Freeminds

  by sweet pea in

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  2. beliefs

  terry has come up trumps once again - a great article for doubting witnesses, reassuring them they are not alone and encouraging them to face their fears and explore further .

  http://www.freeminds.org/support/cult-survival/when-the-truth-is-not-enough.html.

  email it to any jw you know having doubts.. thank you terry..

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  Great article!
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  Has anyone tried to prevent ex-spouse from training the kids as JWs?

  by Michelle365 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am at the point in my custody battle where i need to decide if i'm gonna "go for the gold" and bring religion into the fight.

  my lawyer thinks i have a chance based on the parental alienation aspect of the religion.

  i'm df'd and my kids are being raised to turn against me.

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  Thanks GaryNeal. I appreciate the surport & encouragement. I'll keep you guys up to date. The next thing we have to do is to meet with the Parenting Coordinator on April 7th. That's IF my ex decides to show up.
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  Has anyone tried to prevent ex-spouse from training the kids as JWs?

  by Michelle365 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am at the point in my custody battle where i need to decide if i'm gonna "go for the gold" and bring religion into the fight.

  my lawyer thinks i have a chance based on the parental alienation aspect of the religion.

  i'm df'd and my kids are being raised to turn against me.

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  Garyneal—I just don’t know how to prevent him from controlling me. Everytime I stand up to him, he makes the kids suffer. He knows this and uses it to continue to control me. It’s really only been this last year that I’ve finally cleared my head enough to figure out that he’s controlling me. I was raised a JW so I was just so used to being controlled that I really didn’t comprehend it. I started to wake up when I left in Nov ‘06’ but it’s taken me a while to heal and grow and learn. That situation with your wife and daughter sounds awful and I’m sorry that you are having to deal with this now. It must be heartbreaking. You said “You can't stop him from involving them in HIS religion why they are with him but he also has no right to push his religious beliefs on you and your kids in your own house.” That is exactly where I am at now and why I’ve taken him back to court. It’s difficult. VERY difficult as you seen yourself, these are not people you can reason with. They are doing “god’s work” and the children MUST be indoctrinated in order to be saved. Sigh.

  Ziddina—I really only have one friend that knows both of us AND the religion. She’s been very helpful in getting me to see all the control issues but she & I are both at a loss with this stuff. All of the rest of the friends that I had that knew him are of course still IN the religion. It’s so hard to brainstorm this, which is why I brought it here. I was hoping that there would be others that have experienced this or are willing to brainstorm. I admit that he is still controlling me but I don’t think it’s good little wife or JW or anything like that. I don’t feel that type of tie to the religion at all. That was not hard for me to drop. He’s greatest tool against me is making my kids suffer. He can get me to do anything in order to prevent that and he uses it to the full. I just don’t know how to beat that. My atheismness is “under the radar” and I’m contemplating going to a church, just don’t know if I can stomach it. Lol.

  Emma—No, my ex is definitely not reasonable. I’m working on the strategy, that is partly why I posted this. I’m looking for any strategy tips. It’s been hard for me to do it completely on my own. I have few friends and no family locally.
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  Has anyone tried to prevent ex-spouse from training the kids as JWs?

  by Michelle365 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am at the point in my custody battle where i need to decide if i'm gonna "go for the gold" and bring religion into the fight.

  my lawyer thinks i have a chance based on the parental alienation aspect of the religion.

  i'm df'd and my kids are being raised to turn against me.

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  FoundSheep—Thanks. I’m trying!

  Carla—Sorry to hear that you’ve had to deal with a similar situation. I hear what you’re saying about having “no religion”. I’ve considered it too. Our divorce settlement says that he can take them to the meetings on my weekends, so I can’t refuse. That is why we are going back to court now.

  Troubled Mind—Actually I do NOT have the right to tell him no and that is why I am taking him back to court. The custody agreement we have now says that he can take the kids on my Sundays. This DOES give him control over me and that’s why I’m trying to fight it. It’s AWFUL! You said “It should be your rules at your house and explain to the children what the terms guilt and manipulation mean and how it is applied . Then help them see how to cope with it in their own lives.” I agree, I’m just having a hard time doing that. I don’t know the best way to explain it to them and what to say as each situation comes up.

  AwSnap—Yes exactly! I do feel that it’s “lose, lose” with my children being the BIGGEST losers. It sucks hard core and I’m struggling with the best way to handle it. My Mom is pretty much the only one in my family that keeps up with the girls, and I’m working on building new “worldly” friendships, but it’s slow going.

  Terry—Thanks. You brought up a lot of good points. I really appreciate you taking the time to write it out. I need to keep hearing those kind of things.

  Lady Lee—Thanks, but I got the brochure off of another thread. I need to sit down and read it! Lol.